JoeinAR 1,949 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Remember your promise Brundlefly? The new jwfan love versus the heavyweight champion. Btw I am done channeling Josh 500/Jurassic Shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 This thread is subverting my expectations. Better score: Empire, not even close Better movie: toss-up. Alien is probably the better movie, but I enjoy ESB more Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Both are absolute classics, and landmarks of the sci-fi genre. But THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is a legendary production in every regard. The practical effects still look fantastic, and the lighting and camerawork are beautiful. The script is the most refined and mature of the trilogy. The editing is literal textbook perfection. Williams’ iconic score is one of the finest ever composed. Mark Hamill talks to a Muppet for a majority of the film and you don’t doubt it for a second. There is no contest. The winner is clear. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Is there a typo in your poll? In the first option, you say ALIENS, not ALIEN. But I voted ESB anyway -- even if Horner's ALIENS is a masterpiece. For film, ALIEN wins again (of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I’m trying to think of a Williams score that doesn’t beat Goldsmith’s Alien (or Horner’s Aliens, for that matter). Something to ponder! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 We should've gotten a Star War movie in the early 90s so it could be Star Wars vs Aliens Star War vs Alien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 hours ago, John said: But THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK is a legendary production in every regard. The practical effects still look fantastic That's debatable. Empire had a lot of dated and even sloppy compositing work prior to the Special Edition. The snow battle looked rough, the asteroid scene had all kinds of strange lighting issues and blobs around the ships that we thought were the "shields" when we were kids. Even Luke falling down the shaft looked strange--he appeared to be a ghost from The Haunted Mansion? Much of this was corrected for the SE, but remaining practical effects such as the awkward Ray Harryhausen snow horses, obvious puppets and whatever else don't hold up well. That door behind Luke? The effects are nothing I've ever praised about ESB. Their roughness do contribute to the chinziness and charm. Alien also has some sloppy FX shots like the slow awkward Nostromo entering the planet atmosphere, but there's significantly less SFX because it's not that type of flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,053 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 ESB for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 ESB. Where did all these polls come from? Aye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,400 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Joe briefly transformed into that Korean spambot, that's where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 These days I'd probably rather watch Alien. But Empire obviously has the better score of the two. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 That pretty much sums up how I feel, Lee. Well done, to you. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 ESB has too much music. Alien is nice and economical. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 hours ago, dougie said: ESB has too much music. Alien is nice and economical. Indeed. Although they're apples and oranges, so hard to make that argument convincingly. But these days, I'm more into the "ALIEN philosophy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 What is "the ALIEN philosophy", Thor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Something to do with melodic music being trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 God creates xenomorph. God creates man. Xenomorph destroys man. Woman destroys xenomorph. Woman inherits the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, John said: God creates xenomorph. God creates man. Xenomorph destroys man. Woman destroys xenomorph. Woman inherits the universe. Woman sleeps. Man creates xenomorph. Man awakens woman. Xenomorph destroys man. Xenomorph creates xenomorph. Woman destroys xenomorph. Xenomorph enters woman. Woman sleeps. Man awakens woman. Man creates xenomorph. Xenomorph destroys man. Woman destroys xenomorph. Woman destroys woman. Man creates woman. Woman creates xenomorph. Xenomorph destroys man. Woman destroys xenomorph. Woman inherits the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,903 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Thor said: they're apples and oranges Yeah, its not really a worthwhile exercise to compare films so wildly different. I voted for Empire Strikes Back just so I could cast my vote for the score, which is (also) for Empire Strikes Back. That one is tough to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Richard said: What is "the ALIEN philosophy", Thor? Sparse and potent rather than wall-to-wall rambunctious. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,450 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Richard said: . I agree. Glóin the Dark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 44 minutes ago, Richard said: . Yes, like that. Sparse and to-the-point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Alien even wins against Empire, although it's very close this time in both categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Not really. John and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 6, 2019 Share Posted April 6, 2019 Alien is more of a visceral atmospheric thing and Empire is a Saturday matinee popcorn space movie for children. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 And the winner is... PRESS ME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Yuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Did you press the button? Did you see the pun!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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