Giftheck 916 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Whoooaa boy that was a good one. Play it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 This comes out on my Birthday. i think I wilk reread the novel in preparation. Course every time I read IT I end up hating Stanley Kubrick's the Shining even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 #notmyshining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Assuming the Shining and IT are in the same universe Kubrick's folly would not harm IT, however; Dr. SLEEP would be without an essential character. The aforementioned character having survived the events in IT only to he killed without saving the main character in the Shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Yeah, I'm interested as to how Dr. Sleep turns out; whether it'll be a direct adaption of the novel or if it will keep continuity with the 1980 film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Wikipedia says "While the film Doctor Sleep is a direct adaptation of King's novel, Flanagan said that Kubrick's The Shining would be acknowledged in part." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Probably just means they'll keep it room 237 instead of the book's 217 or something lame like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Jay said: Wikipedia says "While the film Doctor Sleep is a direct adaptation of King's novel, Flanagan said that Kubrick's The Shining would be acknowledged in part." Kind of hard to do since Kubrick royally fucked up by killing the hero (Dick Hallorann) in addition to not having clue about what the evil wanted. Oh well Dick saved Mike's dad before either films events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Book people seem to never understand movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, The Original said: Book people seem to never understand movies. What a fucking idiotic response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 You obviously don't understand Kubrick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stefancos said: You obviously don't understand Kubrick! I understand King. And I understand you dont kill the hero without reason. Thankfully the fucker is dead and wont misinterpret another classic horror novel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 He made it his own, which is what all great film makers do. Spielberg included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Stefancos said: He made it his own, which is what all great film makers do. I agree. Most of the changes he made were improvements upon the source material King certainly doesn't seem to understand movies very well, especially when it comes to adaptions of books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, John said: I agree. Most of the changes he made were improvements upon the source material King certainly doesn't seem to understand movies very well, especially when it comes to adaptions of books Sorry John you are quite wrong. The changes Kubrick made were those of a man? With limited understanding of horror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Perhaps he wasn't interested in making a standard horror movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Seriously the lowbrow didn't even understand that only Danny had the shine and that Jack was simply a tool. The ending of the book was so superior but I can't fault kub. for having no way to film that. Technology was 15 years away. Just now, Stefancos said: Perhaps he wasn't interested in making a standard horror movie? And he succeeded in not making one at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Great film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Its most "famous" scene has no connection to today's audiences. They have zero concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 The bathroom scene? Its legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Here's Johnny. The bathroom scene was comical at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 A frightening example of the terror caused by spousal abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Its most "famous" scene has no connection to today's audiences. They have zero concept. What do you mean by this? That the scene has been parodied so many times, modern audiences can't recall which film it's from? Or that the scene no longer holds the impact it once held? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I suppose if you enjoy all of King's convoluted world-building, but Kubrick knew to cut all that shit out. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, John said: What do you mean by this? That the scene has been parodied so many times, modern audiences can't recall which film it's from? Or that the scene no longer holds the impact it once held? Do you get it? 6 minutes ago, The Original said: I suppose if you enjoy all of King's convoluted world-building, but Kubrick knew to cut all that shit out. You clearly never read the novel based on your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I had a crack at it. Not my cuppa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: Do you get it? I suppose, if that is what you meant. But should that not considered a pro in the case of any film? When it has become so thoroughly embedded in mainstream culture that it is quoted and referenced by people who haven't seen it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Pop culture recognition means the film failed I spose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, John said: I suppose, if that is what you meant. But should that not considered a pro in the case of any film? When it has become so thoroughly embedded in mainstream culture that it is quoted and referenced by people who haven't seen it? I don't think many here ever saw The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson live. You would have to be born 1985-ish at best to have seen it in context. Its sort of the same as when Clark Kent looks at the small phone kiosk in Superman the Movie.Both scenes are now oddities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Believe it or not, but in 1980, Johnny Carson didn't mean a thing in Europe. The scene was striking on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I agree with Alex! The Johnny Carson quote isn't why that scene is so effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 It's probably my favorite Kubrick film, and one of my favorites ever made. I have known diehard Stephen King fans that love both the novel and the movie, it's not like a foregone conclusion that you have to like one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Excellent trailer. The marketing behind this and the last IT film is top notch. There's something to be said for showing an extended scene as a trailer, it was very effective in this case. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Didn’t realize they got such a top notch cast for this. Will check out the first one now. The trailer is comical though with the naked grandma dancing around. Feels like something out of Scary Movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 By deciding to split the book into 2 films, and having the first film only be the 80's storyline, saving the modern storyline for the sequel, they guaranteed that if it was a success they could get bigger names for the kids' adult versions in film 2. Pretty clever actually JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I like that the film will keep the murder of the gay man as the reason for Pennywise waking up from his hibernation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Stefancos said: I agree with Alex! The Johnny Carson quote isn't why that scene is so effective. The scene was responsible for putting Johnny Carson on the map outside The States. Everyone asked: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I only know he was in Home Alone, and only because of the JW cue "Listening to Carson"! Oomoog the Ecstatic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 Final trailer for the film from SDCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Excellent. Stephen King's greatest horror novel now complete on the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I'm definitely going to skip this. Don't see anything alluring about it. The trailer feels more like a warning that says: Don't watch this crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Don't. It's simple the 2nd half adaption of perhaps the great horror novel of all time. Its clearly too sophisticated for you. Its themes are outside your scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 It'll clearly illustrate how superior our living standards in the 2010s are to the 1980s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Chapter One was bad too. Outside the sewer scene (see gif), It even failed to be scary or horrifying. Chapter 2 looks to be even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 They're just capitalising on the coulrophobia meme on the internet that's been popular for the last few years for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,649 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I never cared for the 80s/90s TV miniseries (especially the adult half), but we really liked the theatrical Part 1, so we will see this and hope it lives up to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I like the bit where the clown goes all crazy and shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I preferred the prequel, It Follows. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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