JohnnyD 1,220 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Harpsichord lovers, rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I am very excited to hear this! 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Never owned or was interested before (certainly not as a 14 year old sci-fi nerd in 1982), but based on what I've listened to from it recently and given it's golden decade JW restored by MM, I'll go for it. Ordered. Yavar Moradi and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,585 Posted June 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2019 SteveMc, Once, The Five Tones and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I'm interested in this new release but I do not like the main theme much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 yeah but the main theme isn't in many tracks (the Godfather like theme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Godfather, he said it 🤭 The Five Tones 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aescalle 122 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Only interesting track is Gloria. It's not Williams' eh? Always wondered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,242 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Of course it's Williams. Every note in Monsignor is composed by him. SteveMc, Once and Joni Wiljami 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 And that theme is used elsewhere in the score as well in orchestral guise. SteveMc and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 It will surely sounds better on the score CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Ricard said: Of course it's Williams. Every note in Monsignor is composed by him. Oh, it sounds so weird(in a lovely way) and on youtube it says Miklos Rozsa. I was confused😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 5 hours ago, hornist said: Oh, it sounds so weird(in a lovely way) and on youtube it says Miklos Rozsa. I was confused😂 It is so hardcore, people think it is Rozsa! But, it is unmistakably JW, even if quite a bit different. I do love it. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 5:49 AM, bollemanneke said: Meh. Give me a shout when I can buy Hook and/or Far and Away. If recent (2015 - present) patterns tell us anything, it's that non-marquee, single disc scores (Stanley & Iris, Cowboys, Monsignor, SPR) are released earlier in the year and the "tentpole", multi-disc releases (Home Alone, Jaws, JP, ET, CEOTK, Dracula, SL, HP) usually come out September - November time frame, Superman being the exception. Hook would definitely fall under the latter category, both in score quality and demand. Far & Away is a great score but not exactly a great movie. I'm not as familiar with F&A but I believe an expanded release would be a 2-disc set? That might qualify it for a release later in the year. Same goes with Amistad possibly now that I think of it. A perfect contender for a single-disc, non-marquee release would be Always, I highly doubt we would see an expansion of that during Black Friday season! LOL Taking my detective hat off now, always fun to speculate! Amer and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Yes, F&A would be 2 discs. I mostly agree with what you said, except that AI came out in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 You're right, I thought A.I. was 2014 but it was in 2015.. Releases like 1941, EOTS, & A.I. certainly paved the way for the future releases and established the pattern we've seen since then. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 11 hours ago, Incanus said: And that theme is used elsewhere in the score as well in orchestral guise. Santoni's Compassion ,which is actually my favorite track after Gloria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 I'm quite excited, it's one of my holy grails. Great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amer 2,080 Posted June 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2019 Mike Matessino on the FSM discussion page: Quote The 2007 release was a finished EQ'd master provided by UME rather than a flat transfer which Intrada could have then had mastered themselves. My note in the new release explains that they did a 3-channel music mix for the film but at the last minute it was decided to release the film with monaural sound when they moved the release forward by two months, leaving no time for a Dolby mix. Meanwhile Williams went back to London to add two pieces for the LP and at that time he and Lionel Newman supervised a remix of the album selections and finalized the LP program. This time around I was provided with a hi-res flat transfer from the UK album master and was able to address a lot of issues with it (although it was FAR better than Dracula overall). The mix for the film was quite different so it made sense to include both, especially since it all fit on one disc. Only finished mixes of Gloria were available on all of the elements, but I believe the orchestra was recorded separately from the choir and organ. Dr. Rick, Chewy, The Five Tones and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 “Gloria” is my least favorite cue on the OST. Just the exact opposite of my taste. “The Meeting in Sicily”/Esplanade Overture is my favorite for sure. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Gloria is a bit over the top imo igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 I never had any issues with the SQ on my Intraday (or the LP to CD mastered boot I had before that) so I'm sure this new remaster will sound revelatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jay said: Gloria is a bit over the top imo I too always found it overtly bombastic, especially the first half. The piece gets a lot better when the secondary thematic idea (the “Et in terra pax ominibus” section) kicks in, with some wonderful contrapuntal writing later on. Overall, it’s a quite heavy handed composition, though. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted June 6, 2019 Author Share Posted June 6, 2019 Never had a issue with Gloria myself, but then OTT Williams appeals to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro-arte 22 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I wish the "Forgotten Vows" track sounds now without its problems at : 00:07 , 00:24, 01:16... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Disco Stu said: “Gloria” is my least favorite cue on the OST. Just the exact opposite of my taste. “The Meeting in Sicily”/Esplanade Overture is my favorite for sure. From what I remember, exactly my view as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 The gloria still makes me afraid. It’s fucking drama! I don’t remember the scene it was written for, maybe when Christopher Reeves’ character have his first erection.🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I remember taping Gloria with a Cassette recorder when the movie played on TV. I was obsessed in finding the Monsignor LP which I never found (along with the Poltergeist LP) Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, King Mark said: I remember taping Gloria with a Cassette recorder when the movie played on TV. I was obsessed in finding the Monsignor LP which I never found (along with the Poltergeist LP) I can understand taping music from Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, NBC News, SeaQuest DSV and of course Star Trek on your Talkboy like I did, but this?? What are y'all hearing that I'm not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I even remember the TV commercial for the movie in 1982 had those loud chords at the end of Gloria that kind of sound like parts of E.T. . I instantly knew it was JW and wanted that music JW was nominater for a Razzie Award for this score Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Did Williams really write the Gloria completely for the movie, or did he have the piece in mind beforehand? Because I kind of find it hard to believe that the film inspired him to write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 who wrote the lyrics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 minute ago, King Mark said: who wrote the lyrics? It is the Latin Mass, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 903 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I also never warmed to the piece. That choral burst at the start is painful. igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,983 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 hours ago, SteveMc said: It is the Latin Mass, no? God Almighty did then. Karol A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I have a soft spot for Gloria. The opening especially is so big and over-the-top it is simply...well...glorious. It is almost a cry for God to take notice. I haven't seen the film so I don't know if it actually serves some dramatic purpose in the context of the mass scene it underscores. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, Incanus said: I haven't seen the film so I don't know if it actually serves some dramatic purpose in the context of the mass scene it underscores. Well, in the film I hear it only as source music and nothing more... Although from what I remember some motifs from it are used later in a dramatic context. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, filmmusic said: Well, in the film I hear it only as source music and nothing more... Although from what I remember some motifs from it are used later in a dramatic context. Indeed the musical ideas are subtly hinted at in the religioso writing in Audience with the Holy Father and very clearly elaborated on in Santoni's Compassion. And it is interesting that the opening of the piece is so loud and melodramatic if it is just regular diegetic source music. A curious choice from Williams unless temp tracked or dictated by the director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,155 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Shipped! USPS scheduled delivery Monday! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/5/2019 at 7:29 PM, King Mark said: Santoni's Compassion ,which is actually my favorite track after Gloria 7 hours ago, Incanus said: I have a soft spot for Gloria. The opening especially is so big and over-the-top it is simply...well...glorious. It is almost a cry for God to take notice. I haven't seen the film so I don't know if it actually serves some dramatic purpose in the context of the mass scene it underscores. I think it’s cool how we all seem to have different favorites from this one. My favorite track is At The Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 "Gloria" is a great piece, as is the whole score (for a lacklustre film), but surprisingly -- given its subject matter -- it doesn't really contain the 'religious/pastoral sound' of JW that I love so much. Perhaps it would have been too overt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 58 minutes ago, Thor said: it doesn't really contain the 'religious/pastoral sound' of JW that I love so much. Perhaps it would have been too overt. Perhaps that's covered by the few minutes that were missing from the OST. 8 hours ago, Incanus said: I have a soft spot for Gloria. The opening especially is so big and over-the-top it is simply...well...glorious. It is almost a cry for God to take notice. I haven't seen the film so I don't know if it actually serves some dramatic purpose in the context of the mass scene it underscores. This is how a Gloria movement shall be done. On 6/3/2019 at 11:11 PM, Thor said: Meh. No interest. The 2007 Intrada album is perfect just the way it is. But perhaps it's getting hard to come by, so I'm open to a reissue for new fans. No interest in improved sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I like Gloria from a technical perspective, kind of like Exultate Justi, and I enjoy listening to it, it’s massive choir, the religious statement. But it was never a favorite of mine. But it’s good, joyful, classic Williams! It’s an impressive composition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 50 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Perhaps that's covered by the few minutes that were missing from the OST. This is how a Gloria movement shall be done. Yeah that Vivaldi piece is ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 20 hours ago, Bespin said: The gloria still makes me afraid. It’s fucking drama! I don’t remember the scene it was written for, maybe when Christopher Reeves’ character have his first erection.🤔 You and your bloody erections! The music accompanies a scene in the Vatican where Chris Reeve is having some sort of ordination. The weird "miss hit" in the brass section, underscores the moment when he locks eyes with former lover, Bujold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,475 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Richard said: The weird "miss hit" in the brass section, underscores the moment when he locks eyes with former lover, Bujold. That’s what I said! Smeltington and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Mine has shipped as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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