John 2,032 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Am I not supposed to have what I want? What I need? What am I supposed to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Still only looks new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 In hindsight Spider-Man 2 wasn't too bad I suppose. I finished the PS4 game recently. Boy did it drag out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Maybe he'll get lucky and fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Sequel time already, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Three minutes of playtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 This is a significant moment for JWFan. Any gnarly fan-fics? Questionable art sketchings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I wish anyone looked at me the way MJ looks at Peter when he tells her he's going to see her play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 I am surprised this thread did not take off the way I thought it would. I thought everyone here loves this movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Batman > Spider-Man 2 mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Batman > Spider-Man 2 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Search your feelings, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I loved the first Spider-man, and the second was fine but not something I’d regularly rewatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 And I’m 27, so I’m clearly superior to Spider-Man 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 hours ago, John said: I am surprised this thread did not take off the way I thought it would. I thought everyone here loves this movie? A few of us do. There's just absolutely nothing to talk about in general and we can't even muster up any discussion about things we enjoy. As for Batman Vs. Spider-Man 2, I of course favor Batman, but in terms of the story and characters, Spider-Man 2 is far more interesting and it has a superior romance as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted July 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2019 To me, Spider-Man 2 was probably the last great superhero film, and at the time it held such an invigorating spirit for the genre as a whole, a spirit that's lacking from more recent superhero films. Coincidentally, The Incredibles came out the same year and that has remained one of the best superhero films, one that's animated and still kicks ass fifteen years later. I think part of that 'spirit' was there in Spider-Man 2 because it had moments of solemnity, darkness and maturity that wasn't cheapened or diminished by its comic book roots. So many of these damn films have to walk a tricky tightrope of not being 'comic book films' and being 'films based on comic books' and all of them fall on either side with varying degrees of success. Spider-Man 2 never felt like it was trying to be something else, other than a serious continuation and development of what came before. Not Mr. Big, John, Smeltington and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Yes, back when superheroes could be fun, and weren't overloaded with fake melodrama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I saw it once. That's all the time i had for toby mcguire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 My friend, don't be a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I was thinking of Spidey 2 today and how it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. All the romantic declarations of love, the turmoil of Peter Parker wanting to have the things he wants and not accept his spider destiny. I love the scene where he's still not ready to be Spider-Man again, but his inner hero is brought out by the apartment fire. He saves the little girl and then the fireman says that some poor soul got trapped and never made it out, absolutely killing the mood when we were ready to welcome Spidey back. The movie makes Peter and the audience earn him back. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 12:14 AM, John said: I am surprised this thread did not take off the way I thought it would. It's hardly a celebratory classic though is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 It's the only one in the Raimi trilogy I missed at the picture show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I'm really looking forward to the Force Awakens is five years old thread next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 2015 still feels like the future to me. Probably always will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Quintus said: It's hardly a celebratory classic though is it. Have you taken over Gkgyver’s role as the resident contrarian on this site, Quint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Gkgyver isn't really what I consider to be a contrarian though. As in, I don't ever think of him as someone who disagrees with folk or the consensus for the sake of it. It's more a case of he just enjoys being a bit of a cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: I was thinking of Spidey 2 today and how it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. All the romantic declarations of love, the turmoil of Peter Parker wanting to have the things he wants and not accept his spider destiny. I love the scene where he's still not ready to be Spider-Man again, but his inner hero is brought out by the apartment fire. He saves the little girl and then the fireman says that some poor soul got trapped and never made it out, absolutely killing the mood when we were ready to welcome Spidey back. The movie makes Peter and the audience earn him back. Best movies you've ever seen? You must not have seen more than a handful I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I like the Russian neighbor who bakes him a cake or whatever. He made the wrong choice with mj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Probably my superhero movie. Back when they didn't all seem so cookie-cutter. Haven't seen this in a long time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,499 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 hours ago, The Original said: 2015 still feels like the future to me. Probably always will. The future? What happens in the future? Do we become assholes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 Anyone else think Spider-Man 2 is the best Marvel movie? Arpy, Unlucky Bastard and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Its the best of that trilogy, but still overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 Overrated my ass. It's like everyone has turned against it! Arpy, Unlucky Bastard, John and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 They don't like the patriotic post-9/11 vibe its rocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It features no such thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: Anyone else think Spider-Man 2 is the best Marvel movie? Yes! I suspect some of that success is down to having a director like Raimi and a studio that hadn't succumb to the 'Gotta make a hit, or I'll get the kick' MCU paranoia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It's a Dieter Stark movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Admittedly in today's sensibilities it's a bit dated, but as far as superhero films go, it remains one of the best of its time, alongside the likes of X2 and The Dark Knight. I certainly still have a blast watching it. Pity it would be followed by the schlock that was Spider-Man 3. And given Venom is one of my all-time favourite Spidey villains, that one hurt the most. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 It'll never be as memorable as a James Cameron Spider-Man would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 The main title sequence is one of the best in a big movie. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Great music there. It's been a while since a comic book movie score really hit all the notes. Elfman can't even compose a listenable score anymore. Justice League was such ass it's just pathetic. Spider-Man 2 ultimately is about love and finding that balance in your life between what you want to do and what you have to do. All very human things. While there's plenty of superhero action and fantastic stuff done stylishly and with Raimi's patented zaniness and whimsy, it's still pretty conservative with the fantasy elements. That was the norm for funny book movies at the time and in this case, you were really connecting with the characters because it was such an ordinary story with some extraordinary elements. Now, the norm for funny book movies is ludicrous computerized action scenes with nonsensical energy weapons (The "CGI thing that's going to blow up the city" shtick seems to have originated here?), aliens and space travel, time travel, dimensional travel, people coming back from the dead, a fucking talking racoon...that sort of stuff would be completely out of place in this universe. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 My main issue today with these types of films is their self-reflexive qualities: if the movie isn't taking itself seriously - what with its self-parody - how could the audience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 That's why Batman v Superman is better than any MCU film! It has only one joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Because people never joke or banter or experience moments of levity in real life. Real life is dark, disturbing and cruel, which should be accurately reflected in blockbuster funnybook films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 As in Spider-Man 2, you have your hero go through all this realistic relatable dark and disturbing cruelty so that in the end when he finally learns who he is and gets the girl, it's all the more satisfying. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 452 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Dieter Stark said: Great music there. It's been a while since a comic book movie score really hit all the notes. Elfman can't even compose a listenable score anymore. Justice League was such ass it's just pathetic. Elfman's score was one of the saving graces of that movie. It's not Batman or Spider-Man 2 quality, but then those were 30 and 15 years ago. That exchange between Peter and MJ after the play is my favorite in that movie, aside from the apartment scene. It's just a wistful and hopeful scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,499 Posted July 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2019 The Raimi trilogy has more recognizeable character and identity in any select minute than the whole MCU. Arpy, Chen G., Not Mr. Big and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2019 Another whopper of a scene is when Peter tells Aunt May the truth about how Uncle Ben died. That scene really defines the character of Spider-Man and his continuing turmoil in this movie. Making the choice between right and wrong, using your power for good, giving up the things you want most. Aunt May's response is initially very unsettling and I remember audible gasps and sad expressions in the theater when she walks out. Of course, she eventually forgives him and gives that great pep talk. Like the Jet song on the album says, Peter needs to just hold on. Matt C, Not Mr. Big and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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