Mike Matessino's Indiana Jones

[phbart 609]

I wouldn't show any Indy films to my kids either. And the reason for that is very simple: I don't have kids...

[The Five Tones 302]

21 hours ago, Nick Parker said:

I'm not gonna watch Black Dynamite and get pissed off at its caricatures and lack of nuance (a little different since it was actually made by black people, but it's an homage to a very different era of sensibilities all the same).

I'm not surprised there is a bit of defensiveness in your response to my response but I appreciate you wanting to dialogue.

[Drew 590]

He should make "The Last Crusade" sound like Dan Wallin was never involved with the recording. Enough said.

 

Also, is there anywhere I can listen to the original TLC OST before the 2008 set was released? I heard that it sounds way different.

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I really can't relate to any opinion that thinks TLC sounds good, in any universe. It's a murky recording and flat mix, easily the worst in the series (and it's especially noticeable after its two brilliantly recorded predecessors). Even though it's a very different score, much of that trademark Indy sparkle is lost, drowned out by the muddy brass. Frankly, it sounds borderline monaural. 

 

Not that KOTCS is much better, but at least it doesn't like the score was recorded to a tape cassette. 

 

I would have no qualms whatsoever with Mike going back to the multi-tracks (if they exist) and re-mixing the score with improved sonics, but I doubt it'll happen. I think the recording itself is the main culprit and nothing can fix that. 

[Holko 9,499]

I know the sound of the toilet bowl bootleg well, but when I listen out for the cues in the film, they don't all sound... that much better.

[Bellosh 3,383]

I can still remember November 2008 like it was yesterday.  I got out of work, went home, grabbed the Concord Set, hopped back in my car and went for a 3-4 hour drive while listening to it all.  Playing tracks on repeat most of the time.  Just in absolute pure joy as to what I was listening to.

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

1 hour ago, Bellosh said:

Playing tracks on repeat most of the time.

 

You can't have listened to the whole set then!

 

[Bellosh 3,383]

Broken Bridge/British Relief on repeat for about an hour. 

[phbart 609]

18 hours ago, Bellosh said:

Broken Bridge/British Relief on repeat for about an hour. 

Did you do that with the interview track of Disc 5 as well?

[Bellosh 3,383]

13 minutes ago, phbart said:

Did you do that with the interview track of Disc 5 as well?

 

Oh you know it.

 

I can basically recite it now.

 

"I got to know and work with Johnny Williams on Star Wars cause Steven who recommended him.  And it was great you know, you know that was the best part about making the movie for me was going to the scoring sessions, cause I didn't have to do anything. Cause with Johnny it's just fantastic.  Going to the scoring sessions was like watching the movie get made.  I'm working with the greatest composer, who everything he does is brilliant, and the greatest director, who everything he does is brilliant and a great writer, everything he does is brilliant.  I didn't have to anything I just sorta sit around and said this is fantastic!  Cause you know it really was! "

 

[phbart 609]

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

 

 

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On 7/7/2019 at 5:41 AM, Chewy said:

Hopefully it is coming soon!

 

 

[Smeltington 1,436]

Never bump this thread again.

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

On 7/6/2019 at 9:55 PM, The Illustrious Jerry said:

This thread title! D'oh!

 

What a great thread title!

[bruce marshall 1,314]

Boozerow forever!😁

[Brando 1,855]

I thought it wouldn’t hurt to ask, but he replied:(

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

4 minutes ago, Brando said:

I thought it wouldn’t hurt to ask, but he replied:(

Did he answer yesterday? Please tell me he has....

[Jay 37,281]

One day Disney Records will smarten up and hire Mike to do these.... right?  They have to eventually... right!?

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

13 minutes ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

Did he answer yesterday? Please tell me he has....

 

He answered that it's not in the works because it's already in the can.

[Brando 1,855]

21 minutes ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said:

Did he answer yesterday? Please tell me he has....

This morning, unfortunately. But hey, the silver lining is he’s discussed it. So it has been talked about, so that should be hopeful.

[Chewy 2,372]

1 hour ago, Brando said:

I thought it wouldn’t hurt to ask, but he replied:(

Very sad Now do you think he would answer too if we were asking about Star Wars? I don't think we should ask though, don't want to be disappointed.

[Alan 689]

For now I'm just happy that they have been discussed. Surely a question of "when" and not "if"

[bruce marshall 1,314]

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429]

25 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

Man, just stop killing him!

1 hour ago, Brando said:

This morning, unfortunately. But hey, the silver lining is he’s discussed it. So it has been talked about, so that should be hopeful.

Agree. Just was hoping for some april fool where he said the contrary.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

"Hi Mike. My name is Bruce and I'm glad you're not wasting precious time redoing scores that have received satisfactory expansions.

I hope to see your efforts aimed at the MANY scores that have never been released in ANY form or are in dire need of new versions"

[Richard Penna 3,669]

'Discussed but not in the works right now' has to be one of the most frustrating and patronising states of affairs for a landmark JW score. (patronising on Disney's part, of course, not MM)

 

Unless they're waiting for a mythical 5th movie to come out and tie in with complete versions... what on earth are they waiting for? The only situation I can fathom is either Disney insists on doing it themselves but has other priorities (in which case they need to pull their heads out of their asses and let a speciality label do it), or JW for some reason doesn't want them expanded further.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

 

"...what on earth are they waiting for?"

 

I guess most of the entertainment industry doesn't quite get the " urgency" of the situation.

😎

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,890]

They want to wait for the tapes to degrade more so it can have that "nice, natural vinyl sound".

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8 hours ago, Alan said:

For now I'm just happy that they have been discussed. Surely a question of "when" and not "if"

 

I actually think it bodes well for the potential of JW scoring Indy 5. Maybe the discussion centred around holding off on an Indy box until Williams finished the final Indy score.

 

What I don't understand is if Disney isn't interested, why not just license it out to Intrada?

 

So hopefully the decision came from JW/his team and they're just holding off until Indy 5.

[Bayesian 1,359]

I’m not an economist, but my understanding is that a dollar available today is worth more than a dollar promised tomorrow. The people who buy soundtrack expansions probably skew older than the rest of the population and for sure the people for whom Indy and OT Star Wars form a strong nostalgic connection are older than the rest of the population. And with nostalgia running huge in this generally shitty era, a smart company should recognize there is no better time than now to sell older people things that reminds them of better days—things like these expanded soundtracks. 
 

Honestly, what the fuck is keeping these scores from being expanded? Spite? Total ignorance of the content they have stored in some stupid vault in Burbank or wherever? Indifference? If it’s not that, then what better time are they waiting for? 

 

Disney, if you’re reading this, pull the damn trigger already. The stars are aligned to get the job done right, and they ain’t staying aligned forever. Charge whatever you want for these—you know we will pay it. We’ll skip our fucking rent if we need to, but we’ll pay it, and if you don’t know that, you’re more clueless than we feared.

 

Otherwise, we’re going to have to start a Twitter campaign or something to shame you into doing this, since it’s probably the only thing you’ll respond to.
 

 

[Brando 1,855]

9 hours ago, Chewy said:

Very sad Now do you think he would answer too if we were asking about Star Wars? I don't think we should ask though, don't want to be disappointed.

Someone did mention this when I told them, and my response was “I feel like that’s one thing he gets asked about a lot since it’s SW, and I feel like(which I could be wrong)he might not be asked about Indy as much”. But also, Manakin Skywalker pointed out that even if he was working on it, he couldn’t tell us, since he’s bound by a contract.

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

I guess new releases won't happen before Concord's licence expires.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

"....what the fuck is keeping these scores from being expanded?"

 

 

Uh...uh....uh...

Haven't a clue😛

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17 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I guess new releases won't happen before Concord's licence expires.

 

I doubt they have any active licence. Everything would have reverted to Disney now. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,024]

If they didn't have a license, Amazon wouldn't still be selling the individual releases.

[bruce marshall 1,314]

Just now, Jurassic Shark said:

If they didn't have a license, Amazon wouldn't still be selling the individual releases.

You mean the releases that ALREADY WERE EXPANDED?

 

Does that answer the question " what are they waiting for?".

 

 

Didn't think it would😒

 

[Fabulin 3,510]

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[bruce marshall 1,314]

" what the fuck is keeping these scores from being expanded, SPITE?"

 

 

 

 

 

15 hours ago, Bayesian said:

 

 

Otherwise, we’re going to have to start a Twitter campaign or something to shame you into doing this, since it’s probably the only thing you’ll respond to.
 

 

Good luck with that!

I'm sure Disney is

is terrified#