A24 4,331 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 And Mark Zuckerberg will allow deepfakes to be used on facebook, especially those that will be of benefit to him and his company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 JWFan in 2019 is like a Deepfake version of JWFan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I'd like to see the Deep Throat version of JWfan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Have you ever met somebody whose life was saved by Deep Throat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I was just reading about this internet thing called The Deep Fake, and it seems pretty dangerous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 3:33 AM, Borodin said: This one's rly good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzRt3FrFuWA That one, and this one too Mmm. I'd like this text-to-speech mod for my Alexa: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 You know that one guy, Jeffy? Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Romão 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 The white Morgan Freeman: funny, but, somehow, also scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 This deepfake stuff is getting fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It’s all fun and games until they get weaponised for political gain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 It's scary but amazing technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 In the darker scenes, such as in the brief shots of Indy in the golden idol's temple, or when he's seen up high witnessing the ToD ritual, I think the deepfake effect is flawless. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 You know "Deepfakes" is how movies will be made in the future, right? No actors yapping about their experiences anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Terrible voice impersonation aside (mute the vid for striking believability), get these guys working on Star Wars and Indy 4 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55424730 Near flawless work, and a great demo of what proper (read: scary) deepfakery can look like when it has professional clout behind it. Disney needs to stop wasting its time with rubbish ILM de-ageing CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/24/2020 at 11:06 AM, Quintus said: Terrible voice impersonation aside (mute the vid for striking believability), get these guys working on Star Wars and Indy 4 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55424730 Near flawless work, and a great demo of what proper (read: scary) deepfakery can look like when it has professional clout behind it. Disney needs to stop wasting its time with rubbish ILM de-ageing CGI. That ‘rubbish ILM CGI’ is what allows any of these videos to exist in the first place. All the deep-fake is doing, is touching up (with mixed results) some of the intricacies of the face that can’t quite be perfectly replicated yet. The biggest problem right now is the digital artefacting and the lack of a proper inside of the mouth while speaking. I’d wager these factors among many others are why deep-faking is not a part of the ILM pipeline, assuming that it isn’t because I don’t know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 No you don't. But I'd be inclined to believe these slight technical hurdles would just be more in a long list of problems which were eventually overcome with technical tenacity and finesse. I have never noticed myself looking into a performer's mouth, outside of porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 On 12/26/2020 at 9:14 AM, DarthDementous said: The biggest problem right now is the digital artefacting and the lack of a proper inside of the mouth while speaking. I’d wager these factors among many others are why deep-faking is not a part of the ILM pipeline, assuming that it isn’t because I don’t know for sure. I'd still say Deep Fake would provide a much more solid base than those full CGI faces they are doing. Then use your available resources (which should be plenty, if free software and 3 days of work can already get you so far) to fix the typical DF artifacts (adding a CGI mouth interior is obviously much more simple than doing a whole head). Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Has any major vfx studio used deep-faking outside of something like that impersonation of the Queen the other day? I can't think of any off the top of my head (though would like to see if there are any), though there have to be reasons why they are so rare. They get a bit weird when the character turns sideways, and mouth and lips are often very odd in motion. They are limited in that the studio would need to license hundreds of hours of old interview footage of the young actors, all needing to be sourced (doubting they could just download clips from youtube). They also produce results which are low resolution with plenty of rendering issues which even show when looking at compressed-as-hell YT videos (and what would they look like in 4K?) and studios think it's worth pumping money into CG characters when soon (hopefully) they really will be able to look photo-real. And last of all, they very much seem to work best on top of a CG recreation of the same face... which requires the CG face to be good in the first place? Obviously, I don't really know, I am guessing. I'd assume that people working in the industry obviously have their reasons for doing what they are doing, and I'm sure they'd love to save hundreds of hours of refining and rendering imperfect CG characters using deepfakes if they could. (Yeah, I think the deepfake Luke is an improvement on the weird dead eyes of the Mando original, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I would wager a big reason is the lack of control. Deep learning is a black box, meaning you have no idea what processing is actually happening, you just know the input and the output Its one thing to use machine learning for generating one aspect of the product, like say the wrinkles on a skin - but when it’s the entire face then you lose a lot of authorship, and you’re almost completely at the mercy of the invisible algorithm 13 hours ago, Laserschwert said: I'd still say Deep Fake would provide a much more solid base than those full CGI faces they are doing. Then use your available resources (which should be plenty, if free software and 3 days of work can already get you so far) to fix the typical DF artifacts (adding a CGI mouth interior is obviously much more simple than doing a whole head). When someone makes a fair and decent comparison between pure deep-fake and ILM CGI then I’ll believe it What I mean is that dress someone up like the characters and then deepfake the face, you’ll then be able to see the pros and cons of that method - instead of piggybacking off all that VFX work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 0:27 Pull your tongue out of my arsehole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 It's better than the Leia from that last Disney movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Maybe, but who is Millie Bobby Brown, and why does she look like the love child of Liv Tyler, and Hilary Swank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Maybe, but who is Millie Bobby Brown, and why does she look like the love child of Liv Tyler, and Hilary Swank? She's a strange thing for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Maybe, but who is Millie Bobby Brown, and why does she look like the love child of Liv Tyler, and Hilary Swank? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millie_Bobby_Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 @Jay, thanks for tha- what the hell???!!! She's 16 years old!!! She's a producer and goodwill ambassador?????!!!!! Geez, Louise. That scratching noise you hear is the sound of the barrel being scraped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The similarities between Carrie and Millie are quite uncanny, I'd never thought about it before either. Oh well, there's a prepacked Leia replacement ready to go then. So of course Disney will cast Maisie Williams instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 12 hours ago, The Big Man said: MBB looks a little too waxy here to be a convincing deepfake, but in a few years the technology will be perfected and that will be a disaster. When it comes to this stuff, I'm a total Luddite. This shit needs to be straight-up banned. There is so little upside compared to the potential for misuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: @Jay, thanks for tha- what the hell???!!! She's 16 years old!!! She's a producer and goodwill ambassador?????!!!!! Geez, Louise. That scratching noise you hear is the sound of the barrel being scraped. Didn't ya just hate those snooty over-achievers at school? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Bobby Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 You know the gif I really wanted to use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Milli Vanilli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Girl, you know it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Vanilla Ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ice, ice baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Ninja! Ninja, rap! Go! Go! Go! Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Christ, even I don't remember the original CG Bridges looking this bad. I've seen better graphics on the last gen consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 In the HBO spanish series "30 monedas" (30 coins) the have used deepfake technology to rejuvenate the main protagonist priest and the main antagonist, using young footage from the actors. For the main antagonist though, since he had been mainly a stage actor, so there was not much footage of him, they have used a younger actor that resembles him. I think its convincing although it may look a little 'soft'. But its a first being used in an official production, isnt it? The looks good, i think there is english dubbed track available if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 If they can't stop it and they can't can't ban it, they may as well use it. Especially since it's superior to any of the other solutions thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,495 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Quintus said: Christ, even I don't remember the original CG Bridges looking this bad. I've seen better graphics on the last gen consoles. Indeed. With all these vastly improved amateur efforts, why don't the producers look to them for this kind of stuff? I just don't get it. The big shot FX companies always seem to deliver worse on the 'face' issue than these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thor said: Indeed. With all these vastly improved amateur efforts, why don't the producers look to them for this kind of stuff? I just don't get it. The big shot FX companies always seem to deliver worse on the 'face' issue than these guys. The answer is in your question. The luddite VFX houses are terrified of becoming obsolete, so it's in their best interests to stymie the adoption of this tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Lucasfilm are the coal miners of digital likeness effects and some dudes on YouTube are the green energy. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Anyone else remember this exact conversation a few weeks ago in the other Deepthroat thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Was it before or after Alien came up in the film thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Thor said: Indeed. With all these vastly improved amateur efforts, why don't the producers look to them for this kind of stuff? I just don't get it. The big shot FX companies always seem to deliver worse on the 'face' issue than these guys. I'd guess it might have something do with the amount of old footage the VFX companies are allowed to use. No such restrictions on "fan videos". Just a guess, though. I must say that I found the "reconstruction" of Rachel in Blade Runner 2049 to be utterly convincing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Anyone else remember this exact conversation a few weeks ago in the other Deepthroat thread? I member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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