Harry Potter 0 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Hello everyone!I was just wondering, has anything been confirmed for Williams in 2003? I know he has a horn concerto and the Walt Disney Hall piece, but what about film scores? Does he have any for next year?~Harry, curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Barnsbury 8 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 We can hope for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.Ray Barnsbury-being optimistic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 13, 2002 Author Share Posted June 13, 2002 There might not be a Harry movie in 2003 due to the studio being overloaded, or reloaded , and something else.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Harry, you of all people should know Prisoner of Azkaban will not be out until 2004. John will be scoring Timeline, directed by Richard Donner, based on the novel by Michael Crichton. This will be an awesome film with an awesome score.Joe, who knows that if I keep saying it, it might actually happen. Just keep saying, I believe, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 13, 2002 Author Share Posted June 13, 2002 Well I'll keep saying that Spielberg will direct Episode III. ~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 there is more chance of Williams scoring Timeline than any chance of Spielberg doing Ep III, besides he can't direct both Ep III and Indy IV, since they will be coming out only a few weeks apart. besides Lucas says he is directing it. Case closed. but Timeline director Donner thinks Williams to be the best in the business. I just hope he calls him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 "Writing for film is not a job for me; it's an obsession - I become more in love with it the more I do it." (John Williams)This quote made my year!!! He's just finished 4 films in a row started a fifth and has "Catch Me If You Can" next and he says he loves scoring films more and more!!! Yeah Yeah keep em coming......... but who could blame him if after "Catch Me If You Can" (his 6th film with hardly a day off in between), he decides to take a break?????????With regards to future projects there was a Williams interview mentioned on this site back in Feb of this year, in which he talked about his future projects as being, "possibly harry Potter 2, an extended piece for Orchestra and Chorus, an orchestral piece, plus new pieces for Dove, Yo Yo Ma and Perlman" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Cool pete!there is more chance of Williams scoring Timeline than any chance of Spielberg doing Ep III, besides he can't direct both Ep III and Indy IV, since they will be coming out only a few weeks apart. besides Lucas says he is directing it.Umm, I assume they will both have long production periods meaning that they could be scored at different times. And I assume Spielberg will do anything to help Williams score Indy. Infact they probably already worked this out when they decided on the date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMaker 0 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Chris Columbus already has passed the baton for Harry Potter III. There is a director chosen, and Chris is there to help smooth things out for the new director. Right now, I don't remember the name, but it's not a huge name director. Williams has already agreed to the 3rd movie, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Joe, is Chriscton himself producing Timeline?If so, then there is a bigger chance of Jerry Goldsmith scoring it, since Chrichton and him are friends, and he's very often used him in the films he directed and produced.Also, Donner used Jerry for The Omen, which won an Oscar for it's score, so he knows Jerry is good.Stefancos- who notices Donner often re-uses actors in his films, but rarely composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Chris Columbus already has passed the baton for Harry Potter III. There is a director chosen, and Chris is there to help smooth things out for the new director. Right now, I don't remember the name, but it's not a huge name director. Williams has already agreed to the 3rd movie, also.No there hasn't been a director chosen as of yet.kenneth Brannaugh has now apparently thrown his name into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Stefan, the only producers I can find listed are Donner and his wife. Donner is known for producing his own films. I didn't realize he is 72 years old, though doesn't look a day over 60. His films always have style and panache, but he never gets the credit he deserves IMHO. He rarely makes great movies, but he does make really good ones. But best of all he usually makes fun movies.We will see soon enough who he chooses for scoring the film. Shooting will end in a month or 2 and post production will begin. This is the biggest budgeted film Donner has made.Crichton, has taken a percentage on the film instead of a lump sum figure. He has not written the screenplay, but may write the screenplay for JP IV.Like I said earlier, if I say it enough it might come true. Williams to score Timeline, I believe, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMaker 0 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Chris Columbus already has passed the baton for Harry Potter III. There is a director chosen, and Chris is there to help smooth things out for the new director. Right now, I don't remember the name, but it's not a huge name director. Williams has already agreed to the 3rd movie, also.No there hasn't been a director chosen as of yet.kenneth Brannaugh has now apparently thrown his name into the mix.I read, I think in Entertainment Magazine that Columbus is taking a brake and helping the new to be director with the run down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 13, 2002 Share Posted June 13, 2002 Yes Columbus will help with the transition, because he will be a producer on Azakban, but no director yet. We would know because that is big big news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 14, 2002 Author Share Posted June 14, 2002 What is this Timeline about?~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 14, 2002 Share Posted June 14, 2002 Timeline is a tale of medival France, and timetravelersIt is a novel by Michael Crichton, author of Jurassic Park, Lost World, Andromeda Strain, and numerous other novels.Here is another take on Timeline that gives pretty much the same details, but from a different point of view.It isn't a "new" tale, but it is a combination of genres mixed together that could form a fun, adventerous movie. It would give John a challenge since its not exactly like anything he has scored before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 14, 2002 Author Share Posted June 14, 2002 Thanks for the info, Joe! I'll hope for a Williams score too! ~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director 1 Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 2003 might give Johnny the chance to score Timeline. It'll either be a Williams, Goldsmith, or Howard score: Donner's three favorite composers.If Oliver Stone gets Alexander into production soon, we might the possibility of another Johnny score..........not to mention more concert works for Yo-Yo Ma, Itzhak Perlman, amongst others -- including his horn concerto, Disney fanfare. 2005 might give him a chance to release a piano concerto---- or something along those lines. .....and, of course......a possible pre-Indy IV film by Steven....Director - staying quiet for fear of too much excitement from readers "End Title" from The Scarlet Letter (Barry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybobab 0 Posted June 19, 2002 Share Posted June 19, 2002 I don't think Williams will do much scoring next year. He tends to slow down for a year after a big year like this. He might do some though.Billybobab--Who would mot mind seeing 6 film scores every year, if they were all GOOD, and if they wouldn't kill him from too much work and stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 19, 2002 Author Share Posted June 19, 2002 Director!!! You're back!!!!!!!~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 20, 2002 Author Share Posted June 20, 2002 When will a composer be chosen for Timeline? Anytime soon?~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director 1 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Director!!! You're back!!!!!!!~Harry Harry! I have returned!Director - who was going to respond, "no, I'm Director", but thought that was overly cheesy and retarded. "My Story" from Angela's Ashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetePan 163 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Is Timeline the book written by Michael Crichton?I liked that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director 1 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 Yes, Crichton wrote Timeline.Director - who just heard that Ollie Stone is developing a biopic on Fidel Castro that might come before or after Alexander. (Johnny doing Cuban/Latin music.........cool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Vincent 8 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 If this is confirmed, it would be wonderful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 How come you know so much about Stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 How come you know so much about Stone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 JW will be scoring the Matrix Reloaded as well as Matrix Revolutions. :tongue2: Seriously it would be awesome though. Imagine a kick ass main theme with tons of leitmotif just like SW back in the day. -Rogue Leader who says "I can dream can't I"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,792 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 JW will be scoring the Matrix Reloaded as well as Matrix Revolutions. :tongue2: Seriously it would be awesome though. Imagine a kick ass main theme with tons of leitmotif just like SW back in the day. -Rogue Leader who says "I can dream can't I"? eeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkLuke, almost dying from heart break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 20, 2002 Share Posted June 20, 2002 JW will be scoring the Matrix Reloaded as well as Matrix Revolutions. :tongue2: Seriously it would be awesome though. Imagine a kick ass main theme with tons of leitmotif just like SW back in the day. -Rogue Leader who says "I can dream can't I"? thank goodness some things will never come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 How come you know so much about Stone? He seems to know a lot about Hollywood period. ~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 How come you know so much about Stone? He seems to know a lot about Hollywood period. ~HarryHow I feel for him, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 I don't get it??Why don't you folks like the idea of JW scoring a Matrix movie?? Those films kick ass!! Well ok the first one did. Seriously though I think JW's style of scoring could greatly enhance the sequels. Especially if he wrote a strong main theme like the first film lacked.-Rogue Leader who still to this day 100% believes John Williams IS "THE ONE"! <----- The Matrix Emoticon :wink2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 JW plugs himself into The Matrix."Unfortunately no one can be told what my Matrix Score will sound like. You must experience it for yourself!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 I don't get it??Why don't you folks like the idea of JW scoring a Matrix movie?? Those films kick ass!! Well ok the first one did. Seriously though I think JW's style of scoring could greatly enhance the sequels. Especially if he wrote a strong main theme like the first film lacked.-Rogue Leader who still to this day 100% believes John Williams IS "THE ONE"! :cool: <----- The Matrix Emoticon :wink2:I doubt that Williams, at this stage in his career, would be willing to undergo the exertion of integrating score and song track as Don Davis had to do for the Wachowskis for the first film.I wouldn't want anyone else other than Davis working on The Matrix sequels. And certainly, his gift for marrying the standard orchestra with electronics and as well as appropriately spotting the use of the electronics eclipses Williams's by far.It may not have had a strong lyrical theme, but the brass waxing/waning motif was a clever touch and reminiscent (for me, at least) of Goldsmith's repeated figure in Patton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 The Matrix is a great score, and I think Williams would agree because he suggested Davis for jurassic park. I don't think Williams could do the matrix 2 better than davis. He's great at that kind of music, though he is terrible at writing themes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Just so you know, Williams' Horn Concerto is not on the 2002 - 2003 schedule fro the Chicago Symphony. He may be finishing it in 2003, but it will not be premiered in this season unless there are some significant schedule changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figo 2 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 Good. That will give us more time to petition Sony for a recording, which should be coupled with new performances of the other brass concerti, for trumpet (excellent though the Denouement version is) and especially tuba (which could have been better on ASV). After all these years of Williams' soundtracks and Pops recordings raking in the millions, wouldn't it be nice if the bean-counters at Sony showed their gratitude by giving the green light to an entire series of Williams' concert works, especially the unrecorded and out-of-print stuff? It baffles me that the most popular composer alive has never had an opportunity to set down interpretations of his more "serious" pieces. How many recordings of the "Star Wars" march (especially with ensembles like the "Skywalker Symphony") do we really need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren 75 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 I can't wait to see how they do the scene in the shrieking shack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 He's great at that kind of music, though he is terrible at writing themes Or arranging them, for that matter.~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director 1 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 How I feel for him, then.LOL!!! Thanks, Hlao-roo. You've made me laugh today.Director - always looking for something to make him laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Director 1 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 I'll agree that Davis could do better at composing original themes, but he's an amazing orchestrator, at least.I think he did a good job with JPIII, don't you? He might end up doing JPIV so I'm sure he'll do better the 2nd time around.......same goes for his Matrix scores.Director - who felt Davis didn't need to re-arrange Johnny's main JP theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 Here's what I think of JPIII:When the themes come in, I totally am disgusted by the arranging and raping of Williams's music. Yes, I said raping. What else can I call it? Can I even say that here? Oh well, I just did.When the themes aren't around and the action music takes over, then I can handle the score.His family theme or whatever it is doesn't do anything for me. I would have liked to hear more of the dinosaur JP theme, though.~Harry, a critic all of a sudden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 21, 2002 Share Posted June 21, 2002 I'm no fan of the JP3 score, but i think when you use words like "raping" you are grossly overdoing it.Davis arrangents of Williams themes are fine, and you can hardly expect him to re-use the music in the exact same way Williams used it, since it could not possible fit the scenes.I have problems with the original music Davis wrote, it seems to lack any kind of identity, and the horrible soundquality of the score. (completely unfocused)The JP3 score was by no means bad, but it's just rather unremarkable.I still think David Arnold would have been the best choice for JP3.Stefancos- who considers The World Is Not Enough and especially Tomorrow Never Dies to be unacknowledged masterpieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 21, 2002 Author Share Posted June 21, 2002 I'm no fan of the JP3 score, but i think when you use words like "raping" you are grossly overdoing it.The JP3 score was by no means bad, but it's just rather unremarkable.I still think David Arnold would have been the best choice for JP3.Stefancos- who considers The World Is Not Enough and especially Tomorrow Never Dies to be unacknowledged masterpiecesWell, that is my opinion, and I know you don't like any of my opinions, so too bad.I do agree that David Arnold should have been given the job. He sounds enough like Williams now, so what would he sound like with Williams themes?~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 I don't think Williams could do the matrix 2 better than davis.Dammit man! Thats blasphemy!! Of course Johnny would do a better job. Hes JOHN FRIGGIN WILLIAMS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Good. That will give us more time to petition Sony for a recording, which should be coupled with new performances of the other brass concerti, for trumpet (excellent though the Denouement version is) and especially tuba (which could have been better on ASV). Great idea!I do agree that David Arnold should have been given the job. He sounds enough like Williams now, so what would he sound like with Williams themes? Anything but Arnold! Man, can something be any more cheesy than David Arnold? I think Davis did a pretty good job with the action music in JP3. He did a decent job with the other parts. He's not Williams though Of course Johnny would do a better job. Hes JOHN FRIGGIN WILLIAMS FOR GOD'S SAKE!!! Compare the Matrix like parts of Minority Report with The Matrix Davis does just as good if not better, except for Anderton's Great Escape and the themey parts Davis must be mega-interested in modern music, because he seems to know it well but doesn't know how to make a good theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter 0 Posted June 22, 2002 Author Share Posted June 22, 2002 What the heck is wrong with David Arnold's music?~Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morn 8 Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 It's corny, badly orchestrated and cliched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 22, 2002 Share Posted June 22, 2002 Man, if you weren't Down Under i'd "bitch slap" you. Stefancos- agressively pro- Arnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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