Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I like Bill too. She's assertive but knows when she's out of her depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Liked how the episode ended with the Tardis arriving in the time and place (Victorian London) of the next one. Very Hartnell/Troughton era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I forgot to mention how annoying the Amy Pond intro was after season 5. Sorry, not watching the newest ones. Anyway, I did some reading up on this because I was taken aback by it, but apparently the Amy Pond intro was only in America and Australia? Ridiculous. It makes it seem like it's a show about her. "Hi, I'm Amy and this is my imaginary friend, The Doctor! We go on adventures!" What's weird is that season 6 was Doctor-centric as fuck, making the Amy Show intro even more baffling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I don't follow, Selina. Can you expand on this? Did you not see young Amy, at the start of THE ELEVENTH HOUR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The Eleventh Hour! Brilliant introduction to a new Doctor! Pieter Boelen and Sweeping Strings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Selina is talking about the weird credits sequence BBC America added in front of the normal credits where Amy kind of explains the general concept of the show. It was an attempt to help bring new people into the show more gently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 It wasn't done for the sake of the British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Selina is talking about the weird credits sequence BBC America added in front of the normal credits where Amy kind of explains the general concept of the show. It was an attempt to help bring new people into the show more gently. Ah! Thanks. 30 minutes ago, Stefancos said: The Eleventh Hour! Brilliant introduction to a new Doctor! Possibly Smith's best story. Basically... run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The Pandorica Opens is damn good too. It actually completely finishes the Doctor/Amy arc. They should have finished it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Thin Ice ... The Doctor should get to punch a racist toff to the floor slightly more often, hehehe. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Wasn't a fan of that episode. Felt like it combined bits of The Beast Below and Kill the Moon, but didn't seem to come together as a cohesive story. The 'have you killed anyone' bit was was a nice touch though. The 'politician's' answer was funny, before he answered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I'd like to see another 'meet an historical figure' episode a la Dickens, Queen Vic, Shakespeare, Agatha Christie, Van Gogh. It's been quite a while hasn't it? I guess it's difficult to come up with a fresh approach for those. The Van Gogh one was just superb. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Agreed. This was mostly solid again, but a bit too monster of the weekly I thought. Needed more character, less monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Wasn't a fan of that episode. Felt like it combined bits of The Beast Below and Kill the Moon, but didn't seem to come together as a cohesive story. I liked the episode myself, but that's indeed a very accurate observation; it seemed surprisingly familiar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 It felt like an unadulterated Doctor Who monster-of-the-week story, as the show has routinely been in the past. Lots of throwbacks to other episodes - The Beast Below, Kill The Moon - as mentioned above, but more apparent to me was the connection to The Fires of Pompeii and Donna's plight for the Doctor to save someone in the face of utter destruction. Next time looks interesting I hope David Suchet isn't wasted on a shitty script. Score was ok, some more plucking/ticking sounds from Deep Breath, nothing to write home about yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 14 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I'd like to see another 'meet an historical figure' episode a la Dickens, Queen Vic, Shakespeare, Agatha Christie, Van Gogh. It's been quite a while hasn't it? I guess it's difficult to come up with a fresh approach for those. The Van Gogh one was just superb. The 'historicals' during the show's Sixties infancy were partially intended as being educational for younger viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I'm aware. Anyway, I quite enjoyed "Thin Ice." Bill and the Doctor got some nice relationship development. The plot was standard Doctor Who, which is fine. My one problem with the show at this point is that I seriously have a really hard time understanding Bill a lot of the time. I watch on the Apple TV iPlayer app, which doesn't support subtitles, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I do like the Doctor's habit of name-dropping famous historical figures that he's met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I loved it when Pertwee mentioned "old Boney". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Was that in season -19? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Series 9, DAY OF THE DALEKS, episode 1. "I remember saying to old Bonaparte 'Boney', I said, 'an army marches on its stomach'". Series 19 was Davison's first series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 -19 i mean! Series 1 is the Eccleston one, everything before is minus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I really like the AV Club's review of "Thin Ice": http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/doctor-who-hasnt-been-fun-agesor-serious-254510 I'm going to rewatch the episode at some point this week, I like it more and more as I think about it. I was spending so much time just trying to understand the dialogue, I wasn't really immersing myself in the story. Maybe I'll torrent the episode with a subtitle file. Oh! And I can't believe I forgot to comment in my previous post about "Thin Ice" how exciting it was to hear four knocks on the vault door at the end of the episode Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 You can't understand Bill? Not a criticism I was expecting to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I watch enough British TV that I'm usually ok, but there's something about the way she talks really fast in short bursts sometimes where it just flies right past me. Her speech about the girl she made fat in "The Pilot" was basically completely unintelligible the first time I watched it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I can see your point. I couldn't understand half the dialogue in The Wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I watch enough British TV that I'm usually ok, but there's something about the way she talks really fast in short bursts sometimes where it just flies right past me. Her speech about the girl she made fat in "The Pilot" was basically completely unintelligible the first time I watched it. I'm with you. Capaldi's mild Scottish accent is nothing in comparison. Bill is more on a David Tennant Broadchurch level of difficulty. I'd take it as a learning experience, but that would work better with subtitles. Sadly, British shows don't seem to come with captions even when they're labeled as web rips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I found the Capaldi Who to be a breath of fresh air after season 7, where they decided to make the Smith Who excessively dark and weird, with ugly cinematography and Hans Zimmer music. Just so many episodes where there was nothing really happening. You longed for earlier Smith Who, Tennant Who and especially Eccelston Who (which I watched last), where the writing was sharp and had you on the edge of your seat, and they turned the lights on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I thought the Clara half of Season 7 was pretty weak, but I did love "Cold War" and "Hide." The first half (the Ponds' farewell) is all great for me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Knock Knock - a deft blend of 'old dark house' chills and tragedy, probably the best episode of this series so far. David Suchet was (unsurprisingly) terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 It was better than "Smile," but definitely didn't topple "Thin Ice" as the best of the season so far for me. I really enjoyed all the build-up and tension, but once it got to what was actually going on it started to lose me. But still, it was quick, funny, scary, and emotional: all the ingredients of a solid Doctor Who adventure! I like the Bill/Doctor combo more every episode. I really like that she's the first main companion who doesn't seem obsessed with her adventures with the Doctor to the point of abandoning her life on Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: Knock Knock - a deft blend of 'old dark house' chills and tragedy, probably the best episode of this series so far. David Suchet was (unsurprisingly) terrific. Definitely the best for me so far. I loved the first half, even thought it was reminiscent of The Haunting in that it derived all its terror from strange noises. Unfortunately, the second half was highly formulaic. Suchet (whom I didn't know before) was great. I already miss Capaldi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 David Suchet is a national treasure, more talented than Ian McKellen, and better looking than Julie Walters. Er...actually, reverse that! Check out his (some say) definitive Poirot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 This is all rather strange reading - this has to go down with series 6 as one of the worst seasons for me. The twist this week was effective in the moment, but it couldn't make up for an otherwise thoroughly predictable storyline. I need to be surprised and taken off guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 12th Doctor started out good. I don't really like it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I think it's as simple as they're running out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I loved season 6. All of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 Started great, but petered out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I still think "Let's Kill Hitler" is brilliant fun, and I seem to remember that one being kind of divisive among fans? Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 It's energetic nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 The show eventually became ludicrous with all its wibbly wobbly timey wimey plots. Too much lunacy and reset button galore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I still think "Let's Kill Hitler" is brilliant fun, and I seem to remember that one being kind of divisive among fans? It has its moments, but ultimately I found the plotting so convoluted it lost me. I still don't really understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 That's a problem with a lot of these. Very haphazard plotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 So I've been wary about starting the new season...I think I've reached my Doctor Who fatigue point. But is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 48 minutes ago, KK said: So I've been wary about starting the new season...I think I've reached my Doctor Who fatigue point. But is it any good? This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 All fatigue must be set aside in the hopes of parlaying it into Chibnall gold next year. Don't slack off now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Well, if I may ... now freed of the Clara 'baggage' and given a spring in its step by both the hiatus and the new companion, what the new season has delivered so far is 4 solidly entertaining stand-alone episodes of sci-fi adventure. Capaldi is (still) brilliant, Pearl Mackie is a delight as Bill and Matt Lucas' Nardole amuses. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 'Oxygen' was a brilliant episode - probably my favourite this season. The suspense and tension was high throughout the story, Bill and Nardole were great and funny, the writing was fast and witty and the production design was 100%. Big ultimatum for The Doctor next time with 'Extremis' - the beginning of a three-part story. A big thing I've noticed this season is how the score has taken a bit of a "backseat" approach, nothing that reaches out and grabs you. Bill's theme is there, but the score has become almost entirely synth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Fun episode. Lots of fun, actually. Easily the best of this series so far for me, without a weaker second half like last week. And I like how the series arc is slowly taking shape. Yes, the score for the Capaldi era in general has taken an approach that's a mix of noble Zimmer heroism for the Doctor and less noticeable background music for the rest. S9 had a larger share of refreshing exceptions, as far as I remember (where's the CD release!?), but on the whole, I'm hoping for a fresher approach for Chibnall's first Doctor. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 This season goes from strength to strength, each episode bettering the last ... 'Oxygen' can sit proudly with Jamie Mathieson's 3 previous Who episodes. Maybe the show should be re-named 'Doctor Who's There?' for as long as his temporary blindness lasts ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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