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  • 3 weeks later...

Yeah we knew it would be a long release - Silva said it would have two full scores last year. It's just taken forever to be announced.

 

We've gone from two seasons on one CD to two complete episode scores... just when I'd suspected maybe Gold was losing interest in releasing it. I guess he was just very busy.

 

Maybe, just maybe, he took a look at season 10 while he was there... complete the book before he moves onto something new entirely.

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53 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

Yeah we knew it would be a long release

Despite having an additional disk it's still about 30 minutes shorter than the series 8 release (based purely on the two and a half hour overall run time, but without track times we don't know specifically), and it seems like quite a few episodes are barely represented; just look for The Witch's Familiar, Before the Flood or Sleep No More (I don't remember there being any music in the episode, though). It seems like there's far too little here for 4 discs and it has been pointed out elsewhere that it seems there's no or very little variations of A Good Man? included, which seems insane. I doubt Heaven Sent or Husbands of River Song are truly complete either (Last Christmas was far from complete on the series 8 release), they always miss off around 1/3 of the score which could easily have fit on the CD. Can't say I'm too disappointed, I don't really remember or care for series 9, but after two years of waiting...

 

53 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

Maybe, just maybe, he took a look at season 10 while he was there... complete the book before he moves onto something new entirely.

When the series 9 release was first announced (when someone emailed BBC Music back in November) it was said a series 10 release will follow shortly, so hopefully that will be announced sometime in the next few months.

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16 hours ago, CGCJ said:

Despite having an additional disk it's still about 30 minutes shorter than the series 8 release (based purely on the two and a half hour overall run time, but without track times we don't know specifically)

 

It feels like he's gone for a different naming convention this time, using less episode names, and potentially longer tracks (given that there are fewer) - perhaps he's done what he did with Series 3 and 4, which was to compile suites of material.

 

I think the 2-CD releases are too long anyway - they allow too much of the filler scoring through. I won't complain for a moment though, as it means more choice for us.

 

My current Who playlist (representing 2005 onwards) is a tad over 2 CDs worth. It will be a nice fun challenge when series 10 comes out, to make perhaps a 3-CD compilation of everything.

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6 minutes ago, Richard said:

@Pieter_Boelen, what's so confusing about my last post?

Gold has done an absolutely bang-up job, from season 27  2005, onwards, but classic Who also has some fantastic music.

I didn't recognize those names, because I haven't finished familiarizing myself yet with classic Who.

 

But what is "The Sea Devils"? Sounds like a movie I've seen.

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There are at least two films called THE SEA DEVILS, or you might be thinking of the Roger Moore/Gregory Peck/David Niven film THE SEA WOLVES.

As far as DW is concerned, THE SEA DEVILS hails from the 9th season (Pertwee's 3rd season) and it is widely regarded as one of the greatest DW stories, ever. Malcolm Clarke's score is "off the wall", to say the least, but it's now thought of as a classic.

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It was indeed this film that I thought of: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0046286/

Sounds like I've got something to look forward to when I get back to classic Who!

I did get started, but my slow progress has been on hold for a while...

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For me the two Geoffrey Burgon Who scores from series 13 are the pinnacles of Who scores. A small orchestra with effective use of processing effects. Both scores were released on one CD about 15 years ago. Great stuff! https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Terror-Zygons-Seeds/dp/B00003XB2C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522337339&sr=8-3&keywords=seeds+of+doom+cd

 

For me the music has been an issue with the recent seasons of Dr. Who. In the classic series there would be a main composer for each season, but there would always be guest composers taking over for several stories. It kept the sound of the show fresh, and really helped make stories like Seeds of Doom and Terror of the Zygons (and Sea Devils!) have a distinctive feel. I'd love to see that happen again - several composers used each season. Probably not going to happen, but still something I'd love to see.

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Hey, pixie, long time!

 

By the beginning of Tom Baker's reign, Dudley Simpson had virtually taken up residence as DW composer - then JN-T came along! He did some good scores, GENESIS OF THE DALEKS, being a stand-out.

Some of the historical scores (THE MASK OF MANDRAGORA, for one) were great.

I recently purchased the Silva CDs of SURVIVAL, and THE DEAD PLANET (sorry, but I'm anal enough to refuse to call it THE DALEKS! :)).

They are both good, although the "cat" motif played on electric guitar can get a little grating. I'd love to get a complete REMBERENCE...!

I'm looking forward to Gold's 4-cd swansong.

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For those who may be interested, recovered Second Doctor story The Enemy Of The World received a 'vanilla' DVD release a few years back. It's now had a re-release with a full set of special features.  

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On 3/28/2018 at 1:34 PM, CGCJ said:

6. What Have You Done
16. Two Days on a Longboat
2. Just Come Inside
4. A Change of Clothes
11. One Confession Away
14.The Shepherd's Boy

5. The Husbands of River Song
7. Time to Do it Properly
10. Whole Again at Last

 

Sounds like a porno

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2 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

For those who may be interested, recovered Second Doctor story The Enemy Of The World received a 'vanilla' DVD release a few years back. It's now had a re-release with a full set of special features.  

 

Thanks for that, Sweep. I like EOTW, a lot. Troughton does a brilliant job, as Salamander.

Its the only DW story to be scored by Bartók. 

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I'm admittedly unsure about a purchase ... even though the episodes have apparently undergone further remastering and there are the aforementioned special features, I bought the vanilla disc and it was only 5 years ago.

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I hear what you're saying, Sweep, but I've got special editions of VENGEANCE ON VAROS, REMEMBERANCE OF THE DALEKS, INFERNO, THE DAEMONS, and THE GREEN DEATH, among others, and they've all been worth it. When I can afford it, I'll have no hesitation in buying EOTW.

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The series 9 soundtrack's great, the only problems I have with it is its far too short to justify 4 discs, and there's some strange edits with cue endings cutoff with reverb (The Ghosts) and many cues combined from all over the episodes (Davros Approaches, Deep Cover). At-least its in chronological order, except for The Husbands of River Song, which has all the tracks from the ship scenes in the wrong order.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Silva just notified me of shipping a few days ago (no tracking sadly), eagerly anticipating the arrival of the set :) Can't wait to listen to this.

 

In the meantime, I made a transcription/cover of the Heaven Sent finale:

 

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Am 4 episodes into a rewatch of last year's series ... I have high hopes for Jodie but I'm going to miss Capaldi, Mackie and Lucas; Doctor Who's blend of humour, heart and heebie-jeebies was in fine hands with those three. 

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On 4/7/2018 at 8:10 PM, CGCJ said:

The series 9 soundtrack's great, the only problems I have with it is its far too short to justify 4 discs, and there's some strange edits with cue endings cutoff with reverb (The Ghosts) and many cues combined from all over the episodes (Davros Approaches, Deep Cover). At-least its in chronological order, except for The Husbands of River Song, which has all the tracks from the ship scenes in the wrong order.

 

I had a quick scan through this the day it came out and was pretty disappointed. There is loads of great stuff missing - I love the Ashildir material, and one cue that I can't believe isn't on here is the prep montage with her theme in 'swashbuckling' mode (instead we get some generic action cue).  As you said, for a 4 disc set, Gold really hasn't taken the opportunity to fill it up. I'd hate this to be the set that breaks the chain of me buying them - hopefully I can find maybe 20 minutes of good material to justify it.

 

Plus there must be some rights issue with the main theme as it hasn't been on the last two releases. That sucks.

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Got my copy of the series 9 soundtrack in the mail today.  Listening to the "Heaven Sent" score now.

 

I can honestly say now that series 9 is my favorite season of new Doctor Who.  I just love it.

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Like I’ve said before, I don’t think it’s anything against Gold that the new producers are going a new direction.  10 years is a long ass time to score a show and creative refreshes are vital to keeping this show on the air for another 50 years!

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Oh, certainly. And I rather expect it's his own decision anyway. I'm just not yet convinced that whoever his successor turns out to be can live up to his standard... or in fact that Chibnall might not decide to take a musical direction I'm generally not happy with. The serie's extrovert musical style is at odds with both usual TV/film scoring these days and also Chibnall's own Broadchurch, and at the same time I believe it's an important component of what makes the show so special.

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I doubt any of the perceived shortcomings of the scores s8 onwards have been down to Gold's ability to score an episode, but a shift in what the musical language of the show has evolved into. Gone are the strong symphonic scores for episodes, in its place are sparse, minimalist, synth sounds - and I guess that works in it's own way. The way I see it the musical direction hasn't necessarily been a choice of Gold, rather from the producers from up above. There are moments in s9 where Gold sneaks back to some the rich orchestral writing, like The Husband's of River Song or the Zygon episodes, even Heaven Sent display he still has the chops, but fewer opportunities episode-to-episode to do so. 

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For those with access to it, the BBC have put all of 'NuWho' (from Eccleston's first episode to Capaldi's last) on the iPlayer. And it'll be there for 5 months.

 

Also, apparently Classic Who is now available to watch on the streaming service Twitch.    

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4 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said:

For those with access to it, the BBC have put all of 'NuWho' (from Eccleston's first episode to Capaldi's last) on the iPlayer. And it'll be there for 5 months.

 

Also, apparently Classic Who is now available to watch on the streaming service Twitch.    

 

Thanks for that, Sweep. I think I'll watch THE HIGHLANDERS.

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4 hours ago, Batman's Diet Coke said:

I miss 12/Clara. The high point of the series, to be sure.

 

I agree!  Although we differ on which is the strongest 12/Clara season

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