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The Doctor Who Thread.....

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Haven't seen tonight's yet...but nice to see this thread ressurrected!

I have enjoyed this series immensely - it has had the odd low point but I am looking forward to the closing two-parter....

As for next season - well, we will see....I'm not convined about the casting of David Tennant as the new Doctor - but then I seem to remember writing a little while ago that I was not convinced about Ecclestone either....he won me over quickly!! Billie Piper also grew on me eventually - though it is public knowledge that she will play a much smaller role next season....

Also - the new season has spurred me on to discover some of the Audio Adventures....I already have some of the BBC ones, but have found some of the Big Finish productions available in certain places....some of which are very impressive.....

Also there are some free-for-download amateur productions around - the ones over at Floor Ten Productions are well worth a listen...if you're into audio stuff....

Greg :mrgreen:

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According to the preview The Doctor will be battling what looks like trash cans with gunbarrels welded onto it....

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Also there are some free-for-download amateur productions around - the ones over at Floor Ten Productions are well worth a listen...if you're into audio stuff....

Greg  :mrgreen:

I don't know if you've ever found the Fineline amateur Dr Who stories on your travels around the internet. They are free to download somewhere. I wrote the main theme used on those episodes, plus I composed the score for a few of them.

I'm really enjoying the TV series. I'm still waiting for my contact to furnish me with the last two episodes (Doctor Dances and Boom Town) but I hope to have them soon. I need Doctor Dances! At the moment I've been left hanging with a room full of freaky gas-mask people shouting "Mummy"! I'm so excited to see the closing episodes. The Dalek in episode 6 was kick-ass. An army of those? Woooooo!

I'm SO disappointed Eccy's leaving the show. He totally makes it. Tennent may be terrific. He has a lot to live up to. Eccy has become my second favourite actor to play the role after just 9 episodes! And this is a show I've been watching since Jon Pertwee was in "control" of the Tardis...

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I don't know if you've ever found the Fineline amateur Dr Who stories on your travels around the internet. They are free to download somewhere. I wrote the main theme used on those episodes, plus I composed the score for a few of them.

I'm SO disappointed Eccy's leaving the show. He totally makes it. Tennent may be terrific. He has a lot to live up to. Eccy has become my second favourite actor to play the role after just 9 episodes! And this is a show I've been watching since Jon Pertwee was in "control" of the Tardis...

Showing your age!!! :mrgreen:

Have not come across Fineline....will go and hunt them out....thanks for the tip!

PS - The Doctor Dances - great conclusion if a little on the hokey side.....but watch the first part again a couple of times - the clues are there! Still great Dr Who though.....

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I think the better one I wrote the score for is called "Ultimate Soldier". Also I remember the acting wasn't quite as hokey in that one! From what I hear the Fineline series has become quite popular of late. They're still using my theme too!

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Ok I've finally seen the last two episodes and they are my least favourite so far. I have to confess I just don't like Captain Jack. I think the show has always worked best when the Doctor has one female companion. Jon Pertwee and Jo, Tom Baker and Sarah (my favourite duo). The only exception was when Sarah was joined by the bumbling Harry, who I thought was excellent. Having two such obvious male "heroes" in the Tardis just seems very cheesy and silly. I didn't like the stupid ending to The Doctor Dances. What was that all about anyway? Fighting over Rose?

As for Boomtown, it was another episode that just didn't feel like Dr Who to me. Father's Day was so well done that I didn't mind that it didn't feel very "Who", but Boom Town just got on my nerves. Enough with all the characterization-driven episodes already! Let's have some adventure stories! My biggest complaint about Boom Town (apart from that cringeworthy "Into time and space" speech the Doctor, Jack, and Rose make at the beginning - yuck!) was that in season 1 so far the Tardis has never visited an alien world. Fine, I was patiently waiting for the Doc to take Rose to her first alien world. Would have made a great story. Now in Boomtown Rose starts telling Mickey about all these alien worlds she's been to!!! So these alien-world visits have happened and we missed them? I'd far rather have seen that adventure than Boomtown to be honest. Dr Who always used to be about going on a new adventure every week (or every 4 weeks at any rate...) but now it seems to be all about who fancies Rose, and how the Doctor can live with his conscience. I really hope this isn't the direction the show takes from now on.

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Yes - I see what you mean....but when you talk about wanting the TARDIS to visit loads of alien worlds. don't forget that Jon Pertwee spent most of his time here on this very planet! Not to mention the fact that it is almost the ony planet that ther Daleks are interested in.....

I'm not that keen on Captaion Jack either....

...though as for the female companions - I would have to disagree (though hands up who DIDN'T fantasise about Nyssa????) - I thought Adric was the tops....he empodies the wishes of every single child fan there was....

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I didn't say the Tardis should visit loads of alien worlds, I just meant that it would have been nice to actually see Rose's first trip to an alien world. I quite liked that all the season 1 stories were set on or above the earth. I just think it's a bit of a rip-off to suddenly have Rose telling stories of fantastic planets she's been to! I'm excited to see the Daleks again, but I'm not at all happy with having to sit through a Big Brother spoof to get to them! I was really enjoying this series up until the silly ending of Doctor Dances. Since then it's all been a bit pants IMO.

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Yeah - see what you mean - this hadn't really occurred to me....

Well - let's just hope that the closing 2-parter raises the game a little....

......Greg - who loves the Dalek Stories.....and who wonders if they have brought Terry Molloy out of retirement? "Have pityyyyyy....."...though not as good as Michael Wisher...

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Michael Wisher! ;)

I'm not a big Terry Molloy Davros fan. Davros to me will always be the refined megalomanical Wisher performance from Genesis. DVD release please??? I also think Davros should have only appeared in that one story, or at least they should have waited until another 4 or 5 Dalek stories to resurrect him. It seems silly that the Daleks always seem to need Davros for their schemes, when they did quite well for 12 years before Genesis! I hope the Genesis DVD comes out sometime soon! Actually what I really hope is that the BBC start releasing season box-sets of Dr Who. I'd pay big money to get seasons 12 to 14 on DVD! In my opinion that was the absolute peak of the show! I'm still holding out hope for the new series though, even with the last turn of events I think it's still better than 80s Dr Who.

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Yes - Wisher was the template and was a hard act to follow, but I think you underrate Molloy (hear him on the Big Finish production of "Davros" - the first 3 minutes are just him doing a monologue - it is terrifying!!)...though the character of Davros was indeed far too overused after "Genesis", which I also wish they would bring out on DVD! I don't actually possess any Who DVD's (though I like your series by series idea), but I would buy Genesis....a commentary by Tom Baker, possibly?? The 80's Doctor Who was what I grew up with.....it had it's moments!! State of Decay? Kinda? Black Orchid? Vengeance on Varos? Remembrance of the Daleks? The Curse of Fenric? Plus the obvious low points (Time-Flight :) ).

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I agree with most of your list of '80s Who that was passable, although Remembrance of the Daleks, and Curse of Fenric? Not those two! I would swap those for Caves of Androzani, The Visitation, and The Awakening. I HATE McCoy! I just want to punch him in the face every time he appears onscreen! And I'm not by nature a violent man... I've never heard the Big Finish audios. I hear they're excellent.

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Caves of Adrozani was good - a fitting end for my second-favourite Doctor! (Tom Baker - always the tops....)

Will have to remind myself of the others you mention - I have most of them recorded off Cable.....

......but I cant believe you don't like Curese of Fenric???? Out of ALL of the 80's stuff, suely that was the one that came closest to your "Golden Period" of the mid-70's????? OK - so it had Nicholas Parsons in it....but one could forgive that.....just....as for Remembrance of the Daleks - after the miserable stories that had been cooked up for them over the previous years (Revelation was a noble failure, Resurrection - IMHO - was just a failure), finally - what we had wanted to see...the Doctor, versus the Daleks and Davros, in London....cool...solid plot that brought together the strands from the previous Dalek outings.....and great fun!! Plus Mr Bronson from Grange Hill got a good twatting too.......only real let down for me really through that whole period was Ace - I remember everyone raved about her at the time ("Doctor Who Assistant has muscles and is not afraid to use them!!" - had they forgotten Leela?? Who could forget Leela.....hmmmmm... ;) )

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What did people think of "Bad Wolf" last night? The daleks once again failed to be scary, but I enjoyed it overall.

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Ain't seen it yet....redecorating house for the selers to come in, no time....have it on video, lookin forward to it!!

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Bloody-hell!!!!

Just about everything happened in this episode that Dr Who fans have been waiting for for soooo many years.....and the Doctor's speech to the Daleks was A-1 spot-on....yet again, I sat bolt upright and almost cheered.....and who was that at the end of the teaser?!?!?!??!?!??!?!?!?!??????!!?!!!!!!???

Greg - who thinks the whole "Bad Wolf" thing is a bit hokey and will end up as an unanswered plot-thread, but who has also booked thee telly for 7pm next Saturday night.....

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Ok, now I'm getting hopeful that the show will recover from the recent setbacks. I've heard from my friend in England that Bad Wolf was excellent. I will probably get my own copy to watch in a week or so. Grrr.

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Greg - who thinks the whole "Bad Wolf" thing is a bit hokey and will end up as an unanswered plot-thread, but who has also booked thee telly for 7pm next Saturday night.....

You were obviously very wrong.

Outstanding season closer, combining drama (the Dalek invasion of future earth) with some nice comedy. (Micky's mini trying to break open the Tardis console)

Decent CGI, big but still pretty crude.

Eccleston's last line as The Docter is priceless, Mr. Tennent has his work cut out for him.

Loved the part were Rose is send back to her home and has to deal with the same nonsenical twatter she was a part of in the first episode:

"You tried that new pizza place? "

"No, what do they serve?"

"Pizza."

Music was OK, with a real (small choir) but still sounds to much like synths and samples trying to be a big orchestra.

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Having just seen the end of Eccleston and the introduction of David Tennant, I have to say that "The Parting of the Ways" episode was the best yet. The only bad thing is that they could open the heart of the TARDIS with a truck. I mean COME ON!!! :devil:

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Long time Dr. who fans are probably gonna kill me, but I don't actually think the Daleks look very scary.

They are just trash cans on wheels with a nozzel welded on top of it.

What would you rather face unarmed?

This:

new-series-dalek-3d.jpg

Or:

anne_robinson_main.jpg

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The Daleks themselves have never been very scary - it's what they do and their unemotional, no-heart attitude that is the scary thing...this episode (I thought) carried that off pretty well, ghough there was no need for the "God Dalek"....

Oh - and I must have missed the whole "Bad Wolf" resolution thingy...it was clearly an anagram - but of what?

Greg - who agrees that David Tennant has some big boots to fill, but would like to see Ecclestone back at some point ("The Two Doctors", anyone?....oh, wait.....)

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The words Bad Wolf do not mean anything, nor are they an anagram.

This much is very obvious.

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Ah, but the Daleks WERE scary! It's their unmistakable profile that's so creepy. When you see them from a distance trundling across Westminster bridge in Dalek Invasion of Earth, or when you see one silhouetted against the horizon, or even just the shadow of one, that's what puts the willies up you. Especially if you're an impressionable 4 year old boy, as I was when I first saw Death to the Daleks. I think true fear of the Daleks is something you can only truly have if you grew up being afraid of them. 4 and 5 year olds who watched this new series will grow up with a healthy fear of rubbish bins. And why not, I say!

I don't know why I read every post in this thread, I still haven't got the last 2 episodes from my friend and now I've seen some spoilers. Oh well. Good news about series 3, and the 2 Christmas specials!

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("The Two Doctors", anyone?....oh, wait.....)

How about The Three Doctors with Ecclestone, Tennant and Tom Baker. I'd love to see Baker and Ecclestone in a scene together. It would be a contest to see who had the widest grin! ROTFLMAO

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("The Two Doctors", anyone?....oh, wait.....)

How about The Three Doctors with Ecclestone, Tennant and Tom Baker. I'd love to see Baker and Ecclestone in a scene together. It would be a contest to see who had the widest grin! ROTFLMAO

Good call......but maybe make it The Four Doctors - I would love to see more of Paul McGann in the role.....he was the only good thinkg about that movie!! Half Human indeed.... :roll:

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Half human! Yes that really irked me too. The show had run successfully (for the most part) for 26 years, and then suddenly the writer of the TV movie shows up and in one story he completely turns the whole mythology on it's head! What on earth made him think he had the right to do that? Now of course the TV movie is considered a part of the cannon and so people just don't know how to explain the whole half-human thing, or whether even to acknowledge it. Do Dr. Who fans generally think the Doctor is now half human? It would make an interesting survey. I for one say Hell no!

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Seems like an interesting idea.

But why only half human?

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On his mothers side apparently... That's all that's said about it. It didn't even make much of an impact on the story or plot direction. It was just used as a kind of easy "get out" when needed. I think it's best to just assume that the 8th Doctor was still suffering mentally from his regeneration when he told the assistant ( I forget her name). And then the Tardis lied when it told the same thing to the Master. Yes, that's what I'm going to believe. Now my geeky fanboy persona is content that everything is as it should be and I can sleep peacefully. Hehe.

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For those still interested, Sarah-Jane Smith will be returning to the world of Doctor Who for the new season (one of my favourite companions and a perfect foil for both Tom Baker and Jon Pertwee's wit). Not known yet for how many episodes, but of course Elizabeth Sladen will be playing her.....now I seem to remember that as a parting gift the good Doctor gave Ms Smith a certain Robotic dog? No word yet whether he/she/it will be returning,but I suppose we can't rule it out now.....would be good to see the little mutt again!

Also the Tenth Doctor's outfit has been revealed, as have some of the baddies who will grace the 2006 season as well as the Christmas Special.....

Full story courtesy of Aunty Beeb

:)

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Exciting news indeed as I loved Liz Sladen! She was the perfect companion for the Doctor. She was strong minded enough and good humoured enough not to appear weak and silly. But she still got into all sorts of scrapes and screamed whenever the script needed a perillous situation for the companion without making it look anti feminist. Many of my favourite cliffhangers of all time invloved Sarah Jane Smith in danger. The end of episode 2 of Genesis of the Daleks is the best (Sarah falls from the rocket she's climbing), but also the end of Seeds of Doom pt 3 (Chase holds Sarah's bare arm in front of the hatching Krynoid pod), and every single cliffhanger from Brain of Morbius! I had the great fortune to meet Liz Sladen once, and she was as lovely in person as she appears onscreen. And she still looks gorgeous as well, which doesn't hurt at all!

By the way, the official BBC Dr Who site now has a picture of David Tennant in his new costume as the Doctor. http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ I like it, a rather understated old-fashioned brown pin-striped suit. A big change from Ecclestone's outfit.

James (always glad to see this thread revived!) :D

PS I heard that K9 IS coming back. I don't know how successful that will be though... He's a bit..well.. 70s!

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Bump!

As well as the new season of Dr Who to look forward to, the series gets it's first spin-off next year in the form of "Torchwood" (an anagram of Doctor Who), which will centre around the character of Captain Jack Harkness who, I seem to remember, got left on the Space Station at the end of The Parting of the Ways....

Not sure about this!!

Full story courtesy of Aunty Beeb......

:)

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Well, now that this thread is revived, I might mention that the DVD box set (represents BBC becoming evil but also) contains:

- All 13 episodes of Doctor Who Confidential

- Backstage at Christmas preview

- Video diaries from Billie Piper, Russel T. Davies and Mark Gatiss

- Featurettes: Destroying the Lair, Mike Tucker;s Mocks of Balloons, Desiging Doctor Who, Laying Ghosts, Deconstructing Big Ben and The Adventures of Captain Jack.

- Christopher Eccleston inteview from BBC's Breakfast

- "The Trip of a Lifetime" trailers

- 5.1 Surround Sound for all 13 episodes

- Commentaries

And from IMDb (series 2 related):

"The Christmas Invasion" Episode: #2.0 - December 2005

Anita Briem .... Sally

Noel Clarke .... Mickey Smith

Camille Coduri .... Jackie Tyler

Daniel Evans .... Danny Llewellyn

Adam Garcia .... Alex Klein

Sean Gilder

Chu Omambala .... Major Blake

Penelope Wilton .... Harriet Jones

"New Earth" Episode: #2.1 - 2006

Adjoa Andoh .... The Sister

Noel Clarke .... Mickey Smith

Doña Croll .... The Matron

Sean Gallagher .... Chip

Anna Hope .... The Novice

Lucy Robinson .... Clovis

Zoë Wanamaker .... Cassandra O'Brien Dot Delta Seventeen (voice)

"Tooth and Claw" Episode: #2.2 - 2006

Queen Victoria .... Pauline Collins

Father Angelo .... Ian Hanmore

Isobel .... Michelle Duncan

Reynolds .... Jamie Sives

The Steward .... Ron Donachie

The Host .... Tom Smith

Flora .... Ruth Milne

Robert .... Derek Riddell

"School Reunion" Episode: #2.3 - 2006

Rod Arthur

Caroline Berry

Noel Clarke .... Mickey Smith

Lucinda Dryzek .... Melissa

Anthony Head .... Mr. Finch

John Leeson .... K9 (voice)

Elisabeth Sladen .... Sarah Jane Smith

Benjamin Smith .... Luke

Clem Tibber .... Milo

Eugene Washington .... Mr. Wagner

"The Girl in the Fireplace" Episode: #2.4 - 2006

Pauline Collins .... Queen Victoria

Sophia Myles .... Madame Du Pompadour

"The Satan Pit" Episode: #2.8

[no info yet]

"Army of Ghosts" Episode: #2.12

[no info yet]

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Hmmmm. Not too sure about Torchwood. I just hope it's not going to compromise work on the second series of Dr Who. I wonder if RTD is more concerned with making Cardiff famous than making a good show here... Also I wonder if this means that Captain Jack won't be making another appearance in Dr Who, as the article mentions there will be no crossovers. I had originally heard that Captain Jack would be back in Dr Who series 3.

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Dont know - but I really think it's too early for a spin-off....I mean, yes the First Season of Who was successful, but it has not yet established itself enough in my opinion to promote such an enterprise.....it needs a couple of good seasons behind it before we talk about spin-offs..... (or is that spins-off?)...otherwise there is a danger of it all becoming too messy.....

Rob - thanks for that info - K9 is on the list!!!! Yipeeee!!!!

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