Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hi, I'm new here and I'd like to introduce myself with this poll. I've been a Williams fan since about 1993 when I saw Jurassic Park. This film really got me into JW and I was amazed when I found out this great man was responsible for pretty much all my favourite film tunes as a child in the 80's. I'd always liked the Star Wars themes and Superman music (to name two) when I was young but it was after JP when I was 16 that I really stood up and took note of the composers name on the screen. It was the first soundtrack I ever bought! Since then I have collected pretty much all JW's stuff and many other film composers works too. I love this kind of music and I have even got my friends and family into it. The name of John Williams has gained major respect amongst my circle of friends nowadays. I slowly forced my influence on them!Anyway, from the two choices on offer, which do you prefer? Both being examples of Williams at the top of his blockbuster action music game. Its a tough choice, but I lean towards the simply astonishing excitement of the Jurassic Park cue. It just has a bit of everything which Williams excells in. Tense strings, crashing percussion, soaring fanfares and all flawlessly merged into lots of superb short melodys and rhythms. Of course, the same can be said of the Raiders piece, it too has that vintage Williams touch of thrilling orchestration and rollercoaster like brass'n'drums. But I personally feel that he perfected this art in the climatic action sequences of Jurassic Park. The guy was on fire when he scored the kitchen and giant fossil scaling scenes. Its difficult, but I'm sure you can decide Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I don't find anything interesting in "T-Rex Rescue & Finale" but the use of the main theme around the middle of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Really? I love the entire piece. I must have listened to it a thousand times. Maybe I'm gonna be on my own with this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes!Oh, and welcome to the board!Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes!?!Just hit the "Quote" button. It's easier.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Indysolo said: T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes! I'm quoting because I didn't understand the nature of your above comment. I'm assuming it was lighthearted sarcasm? If so, then I don't know why T-Rex Rescue & Finale could be seen as a funny choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker 5 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes!I'm quoting because I didn't understand the nature of your above comment. Please enlighten me. I'm assuming it was lighthearted sarcasm. If so, then I fail to grasp why T-Rex Rescue & Finale could be seen as 'funny'.I don't find anything amazing about that score. It's perfectly suited for the movie, but beyond that it does little for me. Whereas a score like Raiders is able to transcend the film.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth 67 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 What Neil said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin 2 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 T-Rex Rescue & Finale is an amazing action cue? Yikes!I'm quoting because I didn't understand the nature of your above comment. Please enlighten me. I'm assuming it was lighthearted sarcasm. If so, then I fail to grasp why T-Rex Rescue & Finale could be seen as 'funny'.I don't find anything amazing about that score. It's perfectly suited for the movie, but beyond that it does little for me. Whereas a score like Raiders is able to transcend the film.Raiders completly blows JP out of the water in just about ever category. However, that doesn't mean that JP doesn't have some truly stellar moments. I find much of T-Rex Rescue to be quite enjoyable in the film and on the album. I particularly love the end moment.Justin - Who voted for Desert Chase. duuuuuh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The first half of the JP album is really good.I don't listen much to the last few tracks.K.M.Who voted for Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I love the JP score, but 'Desert chase' beats the track you put it against.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 "T-Rex Rescue" is great, but can't compare with "Desert Chase" 's splendid action/adventure-- both the scene and the music; interesting use of the theme in a more rhythmical version, quite propelling, intense suspense; heroic action; definitely a quintessential action/adventure score/cue.Jurassic Park's theme, however, is one of his very best-- grand, majestic; nice lively variation in "Journey to the Island".Sidenote: funny what scores led people to film music, and especially the interval/period/eras; there's the SW/Superman/ST:TMP "generation", and a whole Jurassic Park/Lion King one, with a few in-between (Edward Scissorhands? Backdraft? Total Recall?).Oh, and welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I can't vote based on bias. I really love both of them and think they're amazing. But I grew up with the Raiders record, so that taints my view. But the Jurassic Park cue is incredible, so it might just be equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Heh, glad to see I'm not the ONLY person who voted for JP. I too grew up with the Indy music (I was born in '77 and my mother still has an audio tape of me humming the Raiders March on an audio cassette somewhere!), but it was only when JP came along in '93 that I actually made a point of finding out who actuallly wrote the truly wonderful music that utterly caught my ear.But I really can't understand some of the comments made about the JP score tbh. Its a fantastic score and really is vintage Williams, being possibly his best in the last 15 years, apart from SW:Ep1 maybe. The track I used in the poll is easily one of his greatest ever action cues imo, not to mention the earlier piece: "High wire stunts".Each to their own I guess. Anyway, thanks for the interest and warm welcome guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Desert Chase, by far. I love the JP score, but I don't think that that particular cue is that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McClane 1 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Desert Chase of course, because it works better outside the movie. I think that the score for both Williams' Jurassic Park works greatly inside the movie, but outside, without images, they're less interesting.On the contrary, I can listen to almost every Indiana Jones cue outside the movie and enjoy it a lot anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 Funny that you should say that, because although I obviously rate Desert Chase very highly, I actually prefer T-rex & finale as a stand alone piece of of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I'm probably too biased towards Jurassic Park to vote objectively. Both are great, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ins 42 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 for me it's definitaly JP. Just checked both pieces. But I have to tell that I never ever base my opinion with knowlege to it's corresonding movie (as Neil seems to do). The music develops a life on its own (as Williams says) and I really don't care about how the movie was or in which scene the cue was used.Don't get me wrong, Desert Chase is a great cue but it's more traditionial sounding as the soo loved wired stuff in JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 30, 2005 Author Share Posted November 30, 2005 GET IN THERE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hi, I'm new here and I'd like to introduce myself with this pollobviously, otherwise you'd know without the poll that Desert Chase will win in a massive landslide.One is a classic, the other is good. Nice to meet you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Jurassic for me - I grew up with it and I listen to the trilogy (yes, that includes JP3) far more than Raiders.Indy is great of course, but I just prefer Jurassic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 The Desert Chase - greatT-Rex Rescue & Finale - good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 All these years later, and I'm glad the forum tools allowed me to switch my vote to Desert Chase. Still, it's pretty close. Chewy and MrScratch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 This thread is unreadable after the first post. And I get shit these days for being disappointed with TLJ? It could've been worse, John. A lot worse. The snarky pretentious attitudes here, people sticking their noses up at JP? They are vicious bastards and I'm glad they're dead. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 11/29/2005 at 6:59 PM, Quintus said: Hi, I'm new here Welcome! My vote goes to T-Rex Rescue and Finale Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, Philippe Roaché said: This thread is unreadable after the first post. And I get shit these days for being disappointed with TLJ? It could've been worse, John. A lot worse. The snarky pretentious attitudes here, people sticking their noses up at JP? They are vicious bastards and I'm glad they're dead. Miserable fucks weren't they. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Welcome to the forum, Quintus. Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 We will watch your career with great interest! MrScratch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 This thread was terrifying until I checked the date. "...Oh, it's from 2005. Who gives the fudge what people think of T-Rex Finale in 2005". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Actually, it mattered back then too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 It's all in the past. Rexy probably ate them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I'll tell you what they need. A good, uh, antipsychotic. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMaestraX 106 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 It's the mileage of Desert Chase that is superior! But I love 'em both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 DESERT CHASE (the DCC version, of course). Lee, which version of T-REX RESCUE AND FINALE are you thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 A Visitor in San Diego is even better than either one, for my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Rialto Ripples takes a big T-Rex piss on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Except on Truck Stop. When we start comparing every cues seperately with each other the forum is going to collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The Desert Chase is one of JW's all time great action cues. Start to finish, it's an exhilarating ride. The JP cue is exciting and has a grand finish but it's not on the level of The Desert Chase. Some of the action cues from TLW on the other hand could be contenders. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 hours ago, Richard said: DESERT CHASE (the DCC version, of course). Lee, which version of T-REX RESCUE AND FINALE are you thinking of? The one on the OST? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, artguy360 said: The Desert Chase is one of JW's all time great action cues. Start to finish, it's an exhilarating ride. The JP cue is exciting and has a grand finish but it's not on the level of The Desert Chase. I respectfully disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I respectfully disagree. And I very respectfully agree with myself. As an aside, the tracks from TLW that could potentially rival The Desert Chase as among JW's best action cues would be In The Trailer, On The Glass, and Rescuing Sarah. The kinetic energy of those 3 tracks and the ebb and flow of intensity with the awesome drum backing and the action music style of 90s JW make the whole music sequence quite unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, artguy360 said: And I very respectfully agree with myself. artguy360 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Desert Chase (album edit). Exhilarating music. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 16 hours ago, Richard said: Lee, which version of T-REX RESCUE AND FINALE are you thinking of? There only exists one version Richard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Yeah, that's the best version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 I like the other version. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: There only exists one version Richard. There's the cut 'n' paste film version, but I agree; the CD version is the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 In the final film, Spielberg (or Lucas) tracked in a portion of "Journey to The Island" over one part of it, but that's not really a "version" of the cue, just last minute film tracking. JW only wrote and recorded one version. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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