Ollie 1,059 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 Is there a list of the tracks on the Star Wars parts of the anthology where the wrong takes were used?I'm not aware of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I know there were a bunch, but I've never seen a list eitherNeil would know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I don't know of any list, either, although I've heard the SE release so many more times than the Anthology that a lot of 'em really jump out at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I've had a compare between the SE and the anthology, and the only ones I've really worked out are incorrect are The Robot Auction (or at least the end) and Rebel Blockade Runner. There was an issue with the end title, but it seemed maybe more due to an edit than an actual wrong take. I think. I heard there were more, though, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 IIRC, i think that it was the main title not end title,the anthology mixes main title and end titles to make the 'concert' version, and i think one take of either is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 IIRC, i think that it was the main title not end title,the anthology mixes main title and end titles to make the 'concert' version, and i think one take of either is wrong.This is true, but the actual end title after throne room has a weird edit, funnily enough right at the moment where it would normally be mixed into the main title for the album version, at about 2:16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 ah, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 ah, ok.The Anthology uses an alternate take of "The Throne Room". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 That's an interesting video there. If only the mixes in both the anthology and SE albums were as smooth as that (and these days there is no excuse considering the considerable editing equipment and sfotware available) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 i just noticed today that victory celebration features in the background some rythms that sound like part of the tribe, ewok feast...so Williams did not go all bossa nova with that. the ewok feeling is there too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Umm...duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 I hate the animal sounds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Anyone notice that on the Adult Swim show called "the Boondocks," the theme music for Uncle Ruckus in later seasons is just Jabba the Hutts theme with a few notes changed so they don't have to pay? I'd post a video but I doubt I'd find a clean youtube video where Uncle Ruckus isn't cursing or making horrible racist comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Why would those things prevent you from posting the video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hehe. Well I can read rule 2 also. If anyone wants to check it out, just go to youtube, type in "The Best Uncle Ruckus Moment" and click on the video. The theme plays from 0:09 to 0:42. There might be a cleaner version without the remarks but I haven't found one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Hehe. Well I can read rule 2 also. If anyone wants to check it out, just go to youtube, type in "The Best Uncle Ruckus Moment" and click on the video. The theme plays from 0:09 to 0:42. There might be a cleaner version without the remarks but I haven't found one.you could remove the voices from the clip.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The youtube clip itself is fine. You're just not allowed to say that stuff yourself to another member. But since the reason you're posting the clip is for us to hear the music, just post the clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I've noticed that! I'd completely forgotten and Id on't watch tv much anymore, but Yea... whenever he comes out, it's Jabba the Hutts theme lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krang 1 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The youtube clip itself is fine. You're just not allowed to say that stuff yourself to another member. But since the reason you're posting the clip is for us to hear the music, just post the clip.Ah okay. Here you go. 0:09 to 0:42. The theme plays in numerous episodes when he's on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Love me some Uncle Ruckus. And there's actually some good music on that show... though the stolen Jabba's theme works nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Is it true that there is a source cue for Vader's death in track 2 of the SE Return of the Jedi?EDIT: Whereabouts to I split disc 1 track 11 of the ROTJ SE? I want to split it into its individual cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Is it true that there is a source cue for Vader's death in track 2 of the SE Return of the Jedi?EDIT: Whereabouts to I split disc 1 track 11 of the ROTJ SE? I want to split it into its individual cues.No. Originally, after the scene in the Death Star hangar, there was a scene in which Vader contacted Luke through the force (the famous deleted scene partially shown at Celebration V). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 I have another question. Why does the SE of Return of the Jedi have the incorrect opening for the End Credits? The opening there clearly comes from The Empire Strikes Back (Don't get me wrong, it's great because I have the clean opening for the ESB credits) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 That seems unlikely. Have you compared the waveforms? (I don't have access to my main computer, so I can't check myself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted July 13, 2011 Share Posted July 13, 2011 It's certainly not the opening to the ROTJ end credits, which can be heard on the Anthology - it sounds exactly like the End Credits on disc 4 of the Anthology, mixed at the end of the Ewoks version of Ewok Celebration.EDIT: Which tracks in the Anthology are incorrect for A New Hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 I believe you are right, it sounds exactly like the ESB End Credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetmeats 2 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not sure I can post links to a scan of an article (probably not) but there was an interesting article about the restoration work done by Matt Wood on the original Star Wars. Basically, they went in and built the new 6.1 mix from scratch. They got the original effects files, the ADR sessions, and found "the original music masters." and then had to go seconds at a time to make sure they actually used the correct takes in all the new mix. I'd love to hear those masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I'm pretty sure you're allowed. I would love to read it. I think he does about 5-6 takes for every cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Not sure I can post links to a scan of an article (probably not) but there was an interesting article about the restoration work done by Matt Wood on the original Star Wars. Basically, they went in and built the new 6.1 mix from scratch. They got the original effects files, the ADR sessions, and found "the original music masters." and then had to go seconds at a time to make sure they actually used the correct takes in all the new mix. I'd love to hear those masters.Figures. The one time I want Lucas to capitalize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Whoa, what happened? Let's get that article up in here, please. This is major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetmeats 2 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 If any admin or mod gives the thumbs up to post a mediafire link for just the relevant pages scanned from a magazine, I'll publicly post the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 If any admin or mod gives the thumbs up to post a mediafire link for just the relevant pages scanned from a magazine, I'll publicly post the link.Pm me! Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 If it's a public article I don't see why it would be against the rules to post a scan. I thought public articles were allowed to be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOWzeBEfKV8(made by me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Not sure I can post links to a scan of an article (probably not) but there was an interesting article about the restoration work done by Matt Wood on the original Star Wars. Basically, they went in and built the new 6.1 mix from scratch. They got the original effects files, the ADR sessions, and found "the original music masters." and then had to go seconds at a time to make sure they actually used the correct takes in all the new mix. I'd love to hear those masters.post away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Just throwing it out there... I've heard that better sounding masters to the OT (especially Return of the Jedi) do exist in the hands of a few industry people. Whether we'll ever hear them is anyone's guess. It shouldn't come as a surprise considering the great quality on the "Musical Journey" DVD. But the claims that the muddled sound on the RotJ SE is all that remains of the original recordings are false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Absolutely. All three original trilogy scores could sound a lot better than they do on the SE releases. I'm not necessarily a fan of all the mixing decisions on the DVD, but the sound quality is better across the board, and then there's the Anthology set, of course. If we're ever lucky enough to get a definitive re-release of these scores, my hope is that they'll have the sound quality they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Are there any cue lists for ROTJ and ANH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 For Return Of The Jedi, the search function is your friend....http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20007&view=findpost&p=709534For Star Wars, there was one posted a long time ago but I think the previous OT Resource thread has since fallen off the forum.20th Century Fox FanfareStar Wars Main TItleThe WarEscape HatchDesert SongThe Little PeopleRobot AuctionThe Droids Are SoldThe Princess AppearsBinary SunsetLost R2 (Unused) - Original for Binary SunsetLand Of The Sand PeopleAttack Of The Sand PeopleA Name Not HeardTales Of A Jedi KnightThe Princess' MessageLearn About The ForceThe Return HomeA Hive Of VillainyThe Millennium FalconBlasting OffDestruction Of AlderaanIs It A Bird? (aka The Death Star)The StormtroopersMouse RobotThe AmbushRescue Of The PrincessDianogaThe Walls ConvergeBen Creeps AroundThe SwashbucklersBen's DeathHere They ComeStanding ByThe Last BattleUse The ForceThe Throne RoomEnd Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 There was no former OT resource thread - this is the one one we've had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 That would be because it's not generated as much discussion as the Prequel music has - especially since the OT music is all pretty much available anyways, compared to the Prequel music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I thought we'd already established that that list wasn't necessarily all original cue titles. Many of them are just track titles. Keep in mind that the Anthology set doesn't use the original cue titles for ANH. Unfortunately, most of the original cue titles remain unknown, which is really frustrating for me, as I've just finished an edit of the score, and I'd rather use the original titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 which cues from ROTJ are edited/replaced/unused in the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 A lot of pieces are heavily edited in the film, for example "The Return of the Jedi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 I know that, but I want to know about stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_K8HL0psC8&feature=channel_video_title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 If you want to know, probably best to just bring up the DVD (or DVD rip) and soundtrack side-by-side and compare, using the liner notes to guide you. I'm gonna do that someday for ROTJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,340 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Are these correct?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoYbpEyY-Y8http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8eCuzn5q5Uhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_K8HL0psC8&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Would somebody be able to break down the ROTJ cue list? Which cues can be found where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,314 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Read the very first post of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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