Fury OST release rumour over at FSM

[Eplicon 54]

Mine arrived today. What a pleasure it is to hear the original tracks. I had been so used to the LSO version that I had forgotten about the various nooks and crannies that Williams had written into the score that aren't on the original album. Varese certainly did an excellent job at remastering the tapes -- it sounds as fresh and lively as if it had been recorded recently. (And what a tired cliche that has to be whenever a favorite score gets re-issued with the deluxe treatment.)

There's probably still some hope that Black Sunday or Monsignor will soon see the light of day as future limited editions by somebody....anybody, please already!

[Rogue_Leader 2]

Mine supposedly arrives tommorow so I must wait yet another day. :cry:

[King Mark 3,975]

Anybody got their copy?Is it that good.It's pretty pricey in Canadian dollars.is the sound good?Is it complete?

K.M.

[Morn 8]

This question is blasphemy!

[King Mark 3,975]

Well,the original disk ain't really one of my fav Williams scores...it ranks in the bottom half of my collection.I like a few cues...but..

K.M.

[Morn 8]

I recon it's an average score, which definately makes it worth getting the film version.

[Jamesyboy 4]

King Mark! :? What kind of question is that

It shouldn't even have to be asked....

Jamesyboy - just plain amazed :wow:

[Rogue_Leader 2]

I just got it and I would definately say YES, but I am biased.

[KittBash 361]

Hey King Mark, SO Montreal huh?? I'm only like 3 -4 hours away in New Brunswick and well I ordered the Fury 2cd the day it came out. (Still not here mind you but I haven't checked the mail yet today ) You are right about it being a little pricey at $51.62 (Canadian of course being like double the American ) once you add all the shipping and everything. But I remember that when the Star Wars 2 CD sets came out in 97 that they cost around the same thing(and they weren't limited to 3,000 copies.) so I justifyed it that way. Basically you have to ask your self how serious a collector are you? and then how much do you really like the Fury!? Watch your answer we don't want to get Morn or Jamesboy pissed!!!

Brian99_1 - trying to at least help a little!

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

The original tracks are nice to have, there's some unreleased music, but as I had expected, it's not as good as the album recording, the OST playing is vastly inferior to the LSO.

Still, they *are* nice to have, and then there's the remastered album recording. I mainly picked up the DEs of the Omen trilogy not for the additional cues, but the remastered sound. So yes, The Fury is definitely worth it - it's (at least) one of the most brilliant scores of all time, after all.

Marian - mightily impressed with Varese's DEs so far.

[Rogue_Leader 2]

the OST playing is vastly inferior to the LSO.

It is very hard to match the perfect combination of John Williams and the LSO together.

[scoreman 0]

I think the original tracks are very good if not better than the rerecording. I don't think the LSO plays vastly superior over the original tracks at all. The track Gillian's Power kicks ass over the re-recording.

[QuintBrody 0]

Right on Scoreman. I agree about that. Buy these two CDs without even thinking twice.

[Rogue_Leader 2]

Hey I did not say the OST is worthless. All I'm saying is its the LSO for pete's sake! You gotta recognize the talent.

[Ollie 1,375]

Yes it is worth buying. Any time you have a chance to get the original tracks from a film I would suggest you get it. It gives the score a whole new listening experience.

[Eplicon 54]

Nah, don't buy it. In fact, every time a deluxe re-release of any classic soundtrack is issued, don't bother....

[Rogue_Leader 2]

Eplicon is trying to go against the crowd and be a rebel.

[Miguel Andrade 1,727]

The original tracks are nice to have, there's some unreleased music, but as I had expected, it's not as good as the album recording, the OST playing is vastly inferior to the LSO.  

I agree. The LSO is better on most any recording than a regular studio orchestra!

[Guest]

hi- I have the new Fury 2-CD set and had a question about the second disc- the LSO recording. It that disc remastered? If so, how different is the sound from the old release of the album. I'm just curious since I don't own the original release.

[Miguel Andrade 1,727]

I haven't received my yet, but I think that disc is a remasterde edition. But lacks one track, The Death on the Carousel original version.

[Lurker 5]

You should get The Fury KM. If not, you may lose your king status.

Neil

[King Mark 3,975]

The original tracks are nice to have, there's some unreleased music, but as I had expected, it's not as good as the album recording, the OST playing is vastly inferior to the LSO.  

I agree. The LSO is better on most any recording than a regular studio orchestra!

Now I'm confused,I usually buy every new Williams release,but 52$ cdn is expensive for a O.S.T. and few bits of unreleased music in inferior performance and a disk I already have...

K.M.Undecided.

[Rogue_Leader 2]

52 bucks Canadian?? Damn your money sucks ass up there.

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

Sounds is definitely improved, comparable to The Omen. Greater dynamic range, more effective bass, better woodwind sound.

The OST recording is nice to have, but I mainly got this for the remastered LSO recording - and that alone was already worth it.

(BTW: Yes, the "original" Death on the Carousel is missing, but the original original version, meaning the one from the OST, is there, and it doesn't seem to be too different - except that the LSO plays much better)

[Eplicon 54]

The sound is far richer than the original CD, almost to the point where you hear too many extraneous details! Some passages sound on the "bright" side, but nothing that's really strident.

[The Five Tones 305]

Received my copy of The Fury yesterday, after paying $50 Cdn. and then almost $8 in duty (North American Free Trade Agreement my ass).

It arrived at my work (where I post from) and I have listened to CD1 three times now. It is unbelievably good. Do not tarry in ordering this!

Unlike so many other complete releases that give you the entire score in bits and pieces, with this one you can feel the dramatic flow so clearly, it does not break from track to track. And every single cut is a gem. This is how it is meant to be heard!

That said, the LSO recording (CD2) is definitely not to be dispensed with either. Most of its performances are superior (especially the cataclysmic Vision On The Stairs), and some of the arrangements work better (like the Main Title). And Epilogue as a concert piece stands tall against anything the American or English string symphonists ever did. Death On The Carousel, while it is only a recreated fusion of two cues which was not used, is still among the composer's best jokes, and I love how he puts the Main Title theme in major for the carnival organ music!

In addition, the recording ambience of the LSO version means more blended colours and is just richer in general than the dry, closely-miked studio version. The studio recording is interesting in that it reveals some of the deeper layers of orchestration, and it is bassier and punchier and more forward, but it's so dry and a little claustrophobic.

But I am certainly willing to be boxed in with it quite a while longer. Lifting Susan is a powerhouse track that reinforces the notion that the ghost of Herrmann was speaking through Williams during this project. Like the rest of this score, it is muscular, driving, psychotic, melodramatic, maniacal, gothic, and tempestuous like nothing else JW ever did, and yet it fits so well into the work of his golden era! The minute long cues, even the unused ones, hold their own so well and yet scream "Benny in a teapot!" even louder. Out of the Water immediately made me think of the emergence of Klaatu from DTEST, and The Train Wreck brought me back to Herrmann's Sisters or It's Alive!

In Nick Redman's notes he refers to the use of the theremin on the studio version, yet it sounds like it could just be a well-programmed Moog to me. It seems to be missing the howl and imprecise pitching of the theremin, but that could just be the processing and engineering. Anyone care to comment?

OK, just get this release.

It has forced me to rethink The Fury's position in my JW Top Ten list. Unfortunately, Schindler's List is just above it. But we'll see...

[Rogue_Leader 2]

I got about a few weeks ago.

Great score! However, I must say again the LSO plays this score with ALOT more energy. The OST is just kind of flat compared to it.

[tpigeon 3]

i just ordered the cd today, and i can't wait to get it! anyone have any idea when i'll be getting it? how long did it roughly take for you guys?

[tpigeon 3]

to be quite honest, i know very little about this score. but because of the enthusiastic reaction from many of you, i decided to purchase it. i hope it's worth it, but judging from the comments in this thread, it'll be worth every dollar.

[Figo 2]

tpigeon, I know you will love it. I too was inspired to take the plunge not just after reading the many enthusiastic comments here -- not least from Chrusher and fivetones -- but from revisiting the OST recording half a dozen times. This is top-drawer Williams. Don't get seduced by the hype. When the disc arrives, your expectations will be high. Forget all about everyone lauding it to the heavens. Forget all about Brian DePalma's film. Try not to let anything influence your opinion. Just enjoy the music.

Not that the praise is undeserved. And not that the film is bad, necessarily. In fact, I rather enjoy it. I was surprised to hear someone mention they were having trouble finding it at the video store. It comes from DePalma's most important period. Far superior to crap like Snake Eyes. Sure, he was intoxicated with Hitchcock, but we all know that. He wanted us to know it! Kirk Douglas is still highly amusing -- playing Kirk Douglas. And the film itself sports one of the most hilarious endings of all time.

I have not yet received the expanded edition. But then, I only ordered it on Friday.

Figo, like you, with bated breath.

[The Five Tones 305]

tpigeon, The Fury is a score you can appreciate without knowing much about nor really even having seen the film. The film itself is mediocre if entertaining, but is worth a rental, and the final scene is among the best of 70's horror schlock!

I ordered my copy online on Wednesday, August 14th; it was shipped the following day and arrived a week after that on Thursday, August 22nd. And this was from California to Toronto (we get lots of produce from there and that probably takes longer!)

[tpigeon 3]

thanks for the posts guys. i can't wait! i actually haven't seen the film and don't really want to because it's supposed to be pretty lame. and i just heard some clips of it at the Varese website and i loved them. thanks again, Figo and Fivetones.

[Figo 2]

"Lame" is pretty strong condemnation for a film that's not that bad. It's actually quite stylish, although the story is very silly. I recommend you see it someday, but long after you familiarize yourself with the music.

[Justin 2]

Got it.

IT'S MINE AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! LOL LOL

Justin -Happy

[Marian Schedenig 11,695]

tpigeon, The Fury is a score you can appreciate without knowing much about nor really even having seen the film.

Yes, it's great as pure music. But I believe that it's at least twice as good in the film. I just haven't seen such a perfect combination of visuals and images in any other movie. To me, the script somewhat extreme, and I understand that many may find it total rubbish. But as far as I am concerned, visuals and music still manage to make this film a masterpiece.

[KittBash 361]

It took about a month and $60 dollars (after paying the Duty at the post office which seems to happen only with Varese CD's! banghead ) But I finally have a chance to listen to the Fury for the first time in my life. 8O

I have to say so far only being part of the way through the first disc that it seems that the Fury was definatlly work all the frustration of waiting and paying through the nose! I definatlly won't be buying every release from them but they sure did a Bang up job on this one!

Brian99_1 - having a hard time believing he missed the Fury before!

[Figo 2]

I know mine won't possibly get here for the next few days, but I keep listening to the original soundtrack, over and over again. I love it! For Gillian is a quintessential high-spirited Williams scherzo which blossoms into a sweeping Superman-type rendition of the melody, and Hester's Theme begins as one those achey cues that could have been written only by the man who composed Leaving Home. The fact that Williams successfully varies what could have easily been a one-note gloom-and-doom score shows what a master he truly is.

As if the fact needs showing.

Figo, preaching to the choir yet again.

[Chris ChrusherComix 67]

*BUMPING THREAD*

Did I ever tell you all how much I love this score?

BTW, I know this film is sometimes classified as horror, but it really isn't a horror movie outside of some gruesome psychic... um... devastation.

Last night, after seeing Halloween for the 1st time (for some reason I haven't seen many horror films and I have no real reason why I haven't... I find them humorous, especially when watching them with girls, LOL), I was left wondering...

How come Williams never composes horror scores?

I have never seen Images, but it sounds like a horror score (and I love it). The Fury is partially horror, and I can't praise it enough. Dracula? The score seemed more romantic than horrific, but still very much enjoyed.

So what's up? Does Williams not like doing horror? Do we need to sign petitions begging Williams to do one?

-Chris, Who keeps having to say how good The Fury is...

[Lurker 5]

i actually haven't seen the film and don't really want to because it's supposed to be pretty lame.

I just watched my DVD of it again the other night, and the more I see it, the more I love it. The movie is incredibly silly but it is so well made that I can't help but enjoy it. Maybe it speaks to my sensibilities, which I feel are a little over the top (love that fireball after the car plummets), but the film is anything but lame. Give it a try. You might enjoy it, and there is no denying that it has the greatest ending of all time.

Neil

[Figo 2]

Most horror movies these days are pretty bad. In general, I think the genre has a stigma attached to it. Williams is such a giant at this point, I doubt he would stoop to writing a score for the flavor-of-the-month stalk and slash the 90210 refugees-type film.

I think there's plenty of horror in The Fury. But there's lots else, besides. The inclusion of Kirk Douglas' character was a stroke of genius.

As for Dracula, Williams' approach suited the whole Langella phenomenon. You may be too young to remember, but his portrayal on Broadway was widely lauded for its erotic intensity. I'm afraid whatever critics and audiences saw in him is pretty much lost in the film.

[Chris ChrusherComix 67]

i actually haven't seen the film and don't really want to because it's supposed to be pretty lame.

I just watched my DVD of it again the other night, and the more I see it, the more I love it. The movie is incredibly silly but it is so well made that I can't help but enjoy it. Maybe it speaks to my sensibilities, which I feel are a little over the top (love that fireball after the car plummets), but the film is anything but lame. Give it a try. You might enjoy it, and there is no denying that it has the greatest ending of all time.

Neil

My sentiments exactly. And the digital surround sound on the DVD makes it far more enjoyable than the mono versions that they play on TV. Crank up the rear surround speakers when listening so you can hear Johnny's music blare!

And that explosive finale... there is nothing like it, is there? LOL

[Lurker 5]

I don't really care for the new re-mix. I wish the original mono was on the DVD. No bother really though. Most of the film is still in mono, except for Williams' score.

Neil

[Morn 8]

???

I don't understand you sometimes Indysolo...

[Figo 2]

Yeah, whatever you say, Morn. Why don't you go back and visit your old VHS of Superman.

Figo, wishing he had the old VHS of Superman.

[Morn 8]

I rented it....

[Figo 2]

Steal that tape.

Figo, wishing he could get his hands on the original cut.

[Morn 8]

Why steal the tape when I can steal the DVD? The new edition can't be that bad! As in.... Star Wars SE!

[Figo 2]

I just collared the UPS man, and still no Fury.

So I put him in a headlock and gave him a few rabbit punches, just so he wouldn't forget about me.

[Chris ChrusherComix 67]

I don't really care for the new re-mix.  I wish the original mono was on the DVD.  No bother really though.  Most of the film is still in mono, except for Williams' score.

Neil

Are you sure that there isn't a mono sound mix? Sometimes there is. I'm happy with the surround. Like you said... it's basically mono with the score.

[Rogue_Leader 2]

Hey don't talk about stealing music!! Crusher will get upset!!