Josh500 1,620 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Lost vs. 24.Who is the BETTER COMPOSER/DOES A BETTER JOB???Note that I'm ONLY talking about the music and how it plays in the series. I'm NOT talking about the series itself! For me (and I'm in the minority here, I believe), it's Sean Callery, hands down.
Luke Skywalker 2,383 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 giacchino, though i dont like lost much...
Richard P 5,303 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Giacchino. While there are some highlights, Callery's music is just electronic droning a lot of the time.
ohnoyoudidnt 0 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 I think Giacchino would also win in a street fight. He has that flinty stare.
Red 75 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Giacchino definitely. Lost is one of the better scored shows I've seen.
Docteur Qui 1,581 Posted January 16, 2008 Posted January 16, 2008 Giacchino.A more appropriate comparison to make would be his work on ALIAS, considering the similarities in the genre and the generous use of techno samples, at least in the first two seasons.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Callery's music is just electronic droning a lot of the time.Just like Philip Glass.
Jim Ware 638 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Giacchino. Callery's scores have been universally unimpressive.Callery's music is just electronic droning a lot of the time.Just like Philip Glass.That's complete bollocks.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 All his music is the same droning synth sound. EVERYTHING.
bondo 33 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Tough call, considering those are my two favorite tv shows and tv scores. My vote goes to Giacchino though, because his music brings the extra emotion to the show that makes it so great.
Jim Ware 638 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 All his music is the same droning synth sound. EVERYTHING.That is also complete bollocks. Do all of these look like synth 'droning' to you?
scissorhands 16 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 Do you know what you're talking about, koraysavas?Symphony 5, Symphony 6, Symphony 8, The Civil Wars, Akhnaten, Appomathox, Itaipu, Orphée, Timpani concerto, Piano concerto... just to name a few... ever listened them? They're quite different between each other, and definitely without any synth sound.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 All I know is that Koyaanisqatsi, Powaqqatsi, Naqoyqatsi, The Truman Show, Secret Window, The Illusionist, and Notes On A Scandal are all droning synth, or I guess electronic is the better word, noise.Do you know what you're talking about, koraysavas?Just for the record, you can call me Koray. Koray Savas is my full name.
Jim Ware 638 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 KoyaanisqatsiWoodwinds, brass and strings with keyboards.PowaqqatsiAs above, with additional ethnic instruments.Naqoyqatsi Woodwinds, brass and strings with keyboards and Yo-Yo Ma (who plays a cello, in case you were unsure).The Truman Show This includes a selection of pieces from other Glass scores, including the Qatsi scores, Anima Mundi and Mishima. The pieces specifically written for the film are entirely acoustic. Dreaming of Fiji was later adapted into the second movement of the Tirol Concerto. Secret WindowEntirely orchestral.The IllusionistEntirely orchestral.Notes On A ScandalEntirely orchestral.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 A more appropriate comparison to make would be his work on ALIAS, considering the similarities in the genre and the generous use of techno samples, at least in the first two seasons.But when Callery did it, he was already becoming uninteresting. Giacchino's Alias music is brilliant.There was some cool music in the first two or three seasons of 24, sometimes seemingly very much inspired by Goldsmith. I used to wonder what Callery could do with a full orchestra, but he didn't seem to keep it up for too long, the later seasons very quite uninvolving (just like the plots).Giacchino, on the other hand, is a great chamaeleon and has brilliant orchestrations.The Truman Show This includes a selection of pieces from other Glass scores, including the Qatsi scores, Anima Mundi and Mishima. The pieces specifically written for the film are entirely acoustic. Dreaming of Fiji was later adapted into the second movement of the Tirol Concerto. It was Truman Sleeps, actually. And I adore the Tirol Concerto.
Docteur Qui 1,581 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 A more appropriate comparison to make would be his work on ALIAS, considering the similarities in the genre and the generous use of techno samples, at least in the first two seasons.But when Callery did it, he was already becoming uninteresting. Giacchino's Alias music is brilliant.There was some cool music in the first two or three seasons of 24, sometimes seemingly very much inspired by Goldsmith. I used to wonder what Callery could do with a full orchestra, but he didn't seem to keep it up for too long, the later seasons very quite uninvolving (just like the plots).Giacchino, on the other hand, is a great chamaeleon and has brilliant orchestrations.Agreed.Callery was ambitious, and had the very same variety of projects Giacchino did at the same time early in the decade (popular television series and video games) but he seems to have now become lost in the sea of uninteresting contemporary composers. Giacchino was lucky, but also smart. He knew when to write like another (like Williams for Medal of Honor, David Arnold for ALIAS S1-2) and when to be more original (LOST; ALIAS S3-5), and he is now head and shoulders above his contemporaries in both projects and talent.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 That huge post by Jim WareO.K. I stand corrected by all the specifics and instruments you listed. Despite all that though, the scores turn up sounding the same, and they go on and on with no build-up, or any kind of variance.http://www.philipglass.com/html/pages/jokes.html
QMM 4 Posted January 17, 2008 Posted January 17, 2008 That huge post by Jim Ware Despite all that though, the scores turn up sounding the same, and they go on and on with no build-up, or any kind of variance.ugggghhhhh
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 That's minimalism for you.
Taikomochi 1,460 Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 For me (and I'm in the minority here, I believe), it's Sean Callery, hands down. WOO! go minority! Callery's music, in my opinion, is original and hard to ignore.
bondo 33 Posted January 19, 2008 Posted January 19, 2008 There was some cool music in the first two or three seasons of 24, sometimes seemingly very much inspired by Goldsmith. I used to wonder what Callery could do with a full orchestra, but he didn't seem to keep it up for too long, the later seasons very quite uninvolving (just like the plots).Check out Callery's score for 24: The Game.... it was composed for orchestra
fommes 165 Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 Giacchino is much more consistent.Callery wrote some really good music for seasons 3 and 4, but seems to make some bad selections for the CDs. I also don't get why he doesn't write for orchestra. Surely the show has money enough. And, ironically, the game has orchestral music. But it must be said, concerning the best action cue, Callery's got the edge over Giacchino, esp. with 'Closing in on Marwan'! Yeah!
Incanus 5,890 Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 Well it has to be Giacchino as I do not remember a single note of Callery's score from 24.
Mr. Breathmask 624 Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 Giacchino is much more consistent.Callery wrote some really good music for seasons 3 and 4, but seems to make some bad selections for the CDs. I also don't get why he doesn't write for orchestra. Surely the show has money enough. And, ironically, the game has orchestral music. But it must be said, concerning the best action cue, Callery's got the edge over Giacchino, esp. with 'Closing in on Marwan'! Yeah!Scheduling and budget doesn't allow for Callery to record with an orchestra.Little trivia: apparently, "no woodwinds" is a style rule on the 24 score as well.
Richard P 5,303 Posted January 20, 2008 Posted January 20, 2008 fommes is right, Callery made some bad selections IMO for the Seasons 4&5 CD. It seemed to just focus on the action with very little thematic material (and yes, there are themes, but unfortunately Joe public doesn't give a cr@p about them).
John Crichton 4 Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 I think my favorite Callery cue was that Bond-style stuff he wrote for Chole when she was in the field towards the end of season...5?
Mr. Breathmask 624 Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 It was season 4. That track was on the season 4 & 5 album.
Richard P 5,303 Posted January 21, 2008 Posted January 21, 2008 One of my favourite parts of Season 5 is when Jack and Audrey are reunited at the end and hug - there's a huge rendition of the 'love' theme. Curse whoever decided that didn't deserve a place on the CD.
John Crichton 4 Posted January 22, 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 It was season 4. That track was on the season 4 & 5 album.Ah. So was it 4 or 5 when she tasered that guy that was coming on to her? In my humble opinion, the greatest moment in 24 history.
Mr. Breathmask 624 Posted January 24, 2008 Posted January 24, 2008 Oh, wait. It was season 5. Sorry, I mixed it up.I thought it was around the time she gunned down a terrorist with a machine gun. I think that was season 4.
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