New Presidential Candidate!

[indy4 160]

Vote Indy4 for 2008!

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

I'm off a week and everyone gets delusions of grandeur

[Neimoidian 15]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Well it is high time for change!

[Nick Parker 3,049]

If Indy4 is to win, he will change the national anthem to the "Nazi's Theme" (which is one of my favorite leitmotivs ever composed).

[überFranz 0]

If Indy4 is to win, he will change the national anthem to the "Nazi's Theme" (which is one of my favorite leitmotivs ever composed).

Zat would be ein great idea. I would certainly support him.

HEIL INDY4!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

You got some competition indy4! This guy is a sure win.

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Your opinion on various issues change too much, Koray Savas. How do you expect economic growth to occur when you outlaw the Jerry Goldsmith fans?

[Red 75]

First Order of Business: Everyone must admit their love for Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Your opinion on various issues change too much, Koray Savas. How do you expect economic growth to occur when you outlaw the Jerry Goldsmith fans?

Excuse me, but what the hell are you talking about?

[indy4 160]

You got some competition indy4! This guy is a sure win.

Eh, he's all talk and no action.

[Williamsfan301 12]

Indy4 will fill his cabinet with composers that work for Hans Zimmer!

Savas in '08!

I'm Williamsfan301 and I approve this message

[indy4 160]

Hey, Koray's a bigger Zimmer fan than I am!

[Williamsfan301 12]

Oh, here we go. Trying to smeer the other guy....

[indy4 160]

I won't release complete Indy scores for 100 years if I have to!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

[John Crichton 4]

That's it, boys. You just met your match.

As President I pledge to put an end to the rampant Zimmerfication that is plauging the film music industry and return listenable, enjoyable scores to our movies.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I promise for a completely new approach to film scoring. These days, more and more products of the Remote Control Productions style have been overtaking the film score business. Some of our citizens like this new age of music and accept it for what it is, however, much of our population suffers from a lack of orchestral and richly thematic compositions that have been slowing dying over past decades. If you vote for me, I will make the necessary changes to bring back the trained composer by starting Conducting Stick Productions. This brand new recording studio will be led by Michael Giacchino and take in such composers as Chris Tilton, Christopher Lennertz, Alexandre Desplat, and Thomas Newman.

Savas '08

Change We Can Believe In

[John Crichton 4]

Now, there's no need for that degree of centralized control. All we need do is remove the obstacles in front of the great composers and they will naturally flourish. Large production companies are not the solution, large production companies are the problem.

John- who's hoping the powers that be won't take these tongue in cheek remarks too seriously

[Koray Savas 2,260]

John- who's hoping the powers that be won't take these tongue in cheek remarks too seriously

Haha, same. Let's make JWFan a democracy! Overthrow the dictatorship! Give the power to the people!!

[John Crichton 4]

Power to the posters!

[Red 75]

John Crichton is a name I can trust, how about you?

(Paid for by Crichton for President, INC.)

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Hm, I must ask one question: do any of you have a fanfare written by John Williams?

[indy4 160]

This letter has three main sections. In the first, I argue that Savas and Crichton's grotty inveracities represent an indissoluble alliance, an intimate alloy, between Jacobinism and gnosticism. In the second, I make it clear that Savas and Crichton profits from human suffering. And in the third and final section, I conclude that Savas and Crichton's goal is to bathe in splendor while the rest of us go to work in the mines. Let me preface my discussion by quickly reasserting a familiar theme of my previous letters: Savas and Crichton says that it needs a little more time to clean up its act. As far as I'm concerned, Savas and Crichton's time has run out.

It can plausibly be surmised that thanks to Savas and Crichton, the worst types of sneaky lamebrains there are can now freely displace meaningful discussion of an issue's merit or demerit with hunch and emotion for a variety of reasons. For instance, wherever you look, you'll see Savas and Crichton enforcing intolerance in the name of tolerance. You'll see it suppressing freedom in the name of freedom. And you'll see it crushing diversity of opinion in the name of diversity.

I suspect I am not alone when I say that thoughtful people are being forced to admit, after years of evading the truth, that I have been right. I was right when I said that Savas and Crichton's detractors are correct in their observation that Savas and Crichton has the gall to trivialize certain events that are particularly special to us all. I was right when I said that Savas and Crichton's coadjutors are easily manipulated. And I was right when I said that I wonder if Savas and Crichton really believes the things it says. It knows they're not true, doesn't it? This is an important question because Savas and Crichton decries or dismisses capitalism, technology, industrialization, and systems of government borne of Enlightenment ideas about the dignity and freedom of human beings. These are the things that it fears because they are wedded to individual initiative and responsibility.

Savas and Crichton may unwittingly let down ladders that the gloomy, tasteless, and lecherous scramble to climb. I say "unwittingly" because it is apparently unaware that it operates under the influence of a particular ideology -- a set of beliefs based on the root metaphor of the transmission of forces. Until you understand this root metaphor you won't be able to grasp why Savas and Crichton's attendants believe that Savas and Crichton has achieved sainthood. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to give you some background information about Savas and Crichton.

Savas and Crichton is frightened that we might carry out this matter to the full extent of the law. That's why it's trying so hard to prevent whistleblowers from reporting that everyone knows of the lust and driving passion that has caused this problem. The logical consequences of that are clear: It is not news that Savas and Crichton's screeds resonate with the deviltry of demagogism. What speaks volumes, though, is that it worships capital, adores its aura, and genuflects before the mere concept of extreme wealth. At the risk of sounding a tad redundant, let me add that I wish that one of the innumerable busybodies who are forever making "statistical studies" about nonsense would instead make a statistical study that means something. For example, I'd like to see a statistical study of Savas and Crichton's capacity to learn the obvious. Also worthwhile would be a statistical study of how many self-satisfied schnorrers realize that Savas and Crichton dismisses its critics as either servants of an existing power structure or as suffering from false consciousness. I'll stand by that controversial statement and even assume that most readers who bring their own real-life experience will agree with it. At a bare minimum, it's a pity that two thousand years after Christ, the voices of sappy fanatics like Savas and Crichton can still be heard, worse still that they're listened to, and worst of all that anyone believes them.

Too many emotions to count raced through my mind when I first realized that I defy the illogical, rash grafters who equip impractical, unprofessional prophets of boosterism with flame throwers, hand grenades, and heat-seeking missiles and I defy the powers of darkness that they represent. Although some dodgy Machiavellians reluctantly concede that Savas and Crichton's emotional involvement with sexism obscures its ability to see things objectively, they invariably deny that Savas and Crichton's treatment of neocolonialism mirrors the attitude that many fatuous, domineering meatheads hold towards favoritism. But there's the rub; Savas and Crichton is unable to remove its mental shackles. Disguised in this drollery is an important message: If it were true, as Savas and Crichton claims, that it has the trappings of deity, then I wouldn't be saying that it's astounding that Savas and Crichton has found a way to work the words "disadvantageousness" and "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis" into its views. However, you may find it even more astounding that you should never forget the three most important facets of its opuscula, namely their crotchety origins, their internal contradictions, and their tendentious nature.

There is an unpleasant fact, painful to the tender-minded, that one can deduce from the laws of nature. This fact is also conclusively established by direct observation. It is a fact so obvious that rational people have always known it and no one doubted it until Savas and Crichton and its loyalists started trying to deny it. The fact to which I am referring states that Savas and Crichton's ultimata stink to high heaven. Well, that's getting away from my main topic, which is that I intend to look closely at its perversions to see what makes them so effectual at challenging all I stand for. I should expect to find -- this is a guess that I currently lack sufficient knowledge to verify -- that Savas and Crichton is the hypostatization of feudalism. But it goes further than that; I undeniably feel that Savas and Crichton has insulted everyone with even the slightest moral commitment. It obviously has none or it wouldn't subordinate principles of fairness to less admirable criteria.

It is my personal opinion, based on years of observation, that Savas and Crichton alleges that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to encourage every sort of indiscipline and degeneracy in the name of freedom. Naturally, this is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I must part company with many of my peers when it comes to understanding why Savas and Crichton's impulsive politics are part of the workforce training agenda for the global planned economy. My peers maintain that until we halt the adulation heaped upon cold-blooded voluptuaries, Savas and Crichton will continue to start wars, ruin the environment, invent diseases, and routinely do a hundred other things that kill people. While this is definitely true, I warrant we must add that it claims to have data supporting its assertion that it has mystical powers of divination and prophecy. Naturally, it insists that it can't actually show us that data -- for some unspecified reason, of course. My guess is that it's hiding something. Maybe it's hiding the fact that while it and other incomprehensible dissemblers sometimes differ on the details and scale of their upcoming campaigns of terror they never fail to agree on the basic principle and substance. Hence, it is imperative that you understand that Savas and Crichton counts the most unregenerate paranoiacs I've ever seen as its friends. Unfortunately for it, these are hired friends, false friends, friends incapable of realizing for a moment that I can surely suggest how Savas and Crichton ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with Savas and Crichton itself.

This seems so obvious, I am amazed there is even any discussion about it. There will be dishonest things said on both sides of this issue within a short period of time. (Yes, Savas and Crichton's argument is invalid, but that's an entirely different story.) Savas and Crichton's duplicitous viewpoints leave the current power structure untouched while simultaneously killing countless children through starvation and disease. Are these children its enemies? I don't pretend to know the answer but I do know that every one of its promises to us was broken before the words were fully out of its mouth. We can therefore extrapolate that I cannot promise not to be angry at it. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under control, to keep it from leading me -- as it leads Savas and Crichton -- to make empty promises. And what of it? I do not propose a supernatural solution to the problems we're having with Savas and Crichton. Instead, I propose a practical, realistic, down-to-earth approach that requires only that I carve solutions that are neither brown-nosing nor militant.

Either Savas and Crichton has no real conception of the sweep of history, or it is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. The interesting point is this: Savas and Crichton's the type of organization that will trump up any lie for the occasion, and the more of a thumper it is, the better it likes it. The concepts underlying Savas and Crichton's venom-spouting theatrics are like the Ptolemaic astronomy, which could not have been saved by positing more epicycles or eliminating some of the more glaring discrepancies. The fundamental idea -- that the heavens revolve around the Earth -- was wrong, just as Savas and Crichton's idea that diseases can be defeated not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors is wrong. As we organize our campaigns against the most intellectually challenged bullies you'll ever see and formulate responses to their rhetoric, it is critical that we free people from the spell of deconstructionism that Savas and Crichton has cast over them. Yes, Savas and Crichton may have some superficial charm, but it has been trying to raise funds for scientific studies that "prove" that it is a master of precognition, psychokinesis, remote viewing, and other undeveloped human capabilities. This is what's called "advocacy research" or "junk science" because it's funded by reckless talebearers who have already decided that Savas and Crichton is a perpetual victim of injustice. While this letter hasn't provided anything in the way of a concrete plan of action, it may help us focus our thinking a little better when we do work out a plan. For now, we must bring a fresh perspective and new ideas to the current debate. I will undoubtedly be happy to have your help in this endeavor.

'4

2008

[Nick Parker 3,049]

I heard the "Krakozhia National Anthem" when I read that post.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

One can easily see the motivations behind that of INDY4. In his latest speech, he never speaks about any plans for our future, any improvements to help those in need, to get them what is of upmost priority and necessity. The entire time he spent lecturing about the faults and supposed weaknesses of Savas and Crichton, never explaining is own motifs to do what his right for this community.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Indy4 may have the largest rhetoric, but Crichton has collected the most money.

[Desplat13 1]

Hmm, Indy4 uses the longest words, Koray Savas says the most pointed things, and John Crichton makes me laugh.

Which one, which one, which one?

[Marian Schedenig 11,694]

Lemon curry?

[Williamsfan301 12]

:lol:

Indy, you should seriously go into politics! You said absolutely nothing so well!! I'm still laughing. Kudos!

but I'm still voting for Savas

[John Crichton 4]

I see indy4 has reduced himself to using Scott Pakin's complaint letter generator to write his campaign statements. Obviously he has no ideas of his own to bring to the table. I can pledge that every statement you read from me is written by me. 100% pure Crichton, for better or worse, guaranteed.

Oh, red, the check's in the mail.

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Mr. Crichton, my faith for you diminished when Danny DeVito arrived at my home to hand me a brochure....

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Indy 4 is notjhing but hot air.

Koray Savas is a funny foreign name, so there's no telling were his true loyalties lie.

I vote with my heart, I vote with my mind, I vote Crichton!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Koray Savas is a funny foreign name, so there's no telling were his true loyalties lie.

[indy4 160]

I see indy4 has reduced himself to using Scott Pakin's complaint letter generator to write his campaign statements.

I am not a crook!

:lol:

Indy, you should seriously go into politics! You said absolutely nothing so well!! I'm still laughing. Kudos!

Kudos to you if you actually managed to read through that whole thing.

'4

2008

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Kudos to you if you actually managed to read through that whole thing.

'4

2008

What are "kudos"? I believe I have seen them at a local grocery store.

[indy4 160]

I don't know what they actually mean, but it is a term used in place of "congratulations."

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Hm. Thank you, then. I must ask: what is your opinion on the "Music Care" debate?

[indy4 160]

I must ask: what is your opinion on the "Music Care" debate?

I don't understand the question, please specify?

'4

2008

[Nick Parker 3,049]

There has been a debate in the Film Music Senate to alter insurance policies to provide music for those in need.

[Marian Schedenig 11,694]

I don't know what they actually mean

Ah, a true politician. Saying stuff without even knowing its meaning.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

"It is only totalitarian governments that suppress facts. In this country we simply take a democratic decision not to publish them."

"How to discredit an unwelcome report:

Stage One: Refuse to publish in the public interest saying

1. There are security considerations.

2. The findings could be misinterpreted.

3. You are waiting for the results of a wider and more detailed report which is still in preparation. (If there isn't one, commission it; this gives you even more time).

Stage Two: Discredit the evidence you are not publishing, saying

1. It leaves important questions unanswered.

2. Much of the evidence is inconclusive.

3. The figures are open to other interpretations.

4. Certain findings are contradictory.

5. Some of the main conclusions have been questioned. (If they haven't, question them yourself; then they have).

Stage Three: Undermine the recommendations. Suggested phrases:

1. 'Not really a basis for long term decisions'.

2. 'Not sufficient information on which to base a valid assessment'.

3. 'No reason for any fundamental rethink of existing policy'.

4. 'Broadly speaking, it endorses current practice'.

Stage Four: Discredit the person who produced the report. Explain (off the record) that

1. He is harbouring a grudge against the Department.

2. He is a publicity seeker.

3. He is trying to get a Knighthood/Chair/Vice Chancellorship.

4. He used to be a consultant to a multinational.

5. He wants to be a consultant to a multinational."

"To suppress an internal government report, rewrite it as official advice to the Minister. Then it is against the rules to publish it, so you can leak the bits you want to friendly journalists."

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

You mean like the comedic statement "It is of little importance who financed the terrorist bombings"?

And if nothing helps, stage five includes the usage of words like "conspiracy theorists"

John Williams and Hans Zimmer are in reality government agents who have the duty of manipulating fans' thoughts in favour of either indy4 or Mr. Savas.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

What are "kudos"? I believe I have seen them at a local grocery store.

Like indy4 said, it's a form of saying "congratulations." What you are seeing in the grocery store is a candy bar called "Kudos," I remember them from like the 90's.

[John Crichton 4]

I vote with my heart, I vote with my mind, I vote Crichton!

I am proud to accept support from our Grandest Master and Supreme Something Something.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

What is your posotion on subsidies for specialist sopundtrack labels like Intrada, Varese, FSM etc...

And were do you stand on the abolishment of the re-use fees?

[John Crichton 4]

The specialist soundtrack labels such as FSM, Intrada, LaLaLand and Varese are the crown jewels of the soundtrack industry. Their hard work and dedication have brought us many cherished scores over the years. As president I will do everything I can to help these visonaries in any way possible, including assistance with negotiations with studios for access for even more cherished material from their vaults, as well as encouragement for studios, directors, and producers to bypass major record labels all together and eventually have all major score releases from these companies. If necessary this will include assistance for the labels for the increase in production, until their income is sufficient to handle it all.

Re-use fees is a much stickier issue, one that has stood in the way of many quality scores being released. My administration will negotiate directly with unions and artists with the goal of completely overhauling this outdated system, working to create a structure where participating artists can still recieve just compensation but also to where the fees will not be a hinderance when considering a score release.

[Wojo 2,458]

Well ladies and gentlemen, I don't think any of our contestants this evening have succeeded in encapsulating the intricacies of Proust's masterwork, so I'm going to award the first prize this evening to the girl with the biggest tits.

[FattyMcButterpants 1]

[Ray Barnsbury 8]

Mr. Crichton, when will you choose your running mate? As soon as you do, I'll be glad to create your official campaign poster.

CRICHTON/_______ '08!!!