The movie that destroyed great SFX movies

[publicist 4,650]

They don't.

I only read my own. But that multiple times!;

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

You read your own posts while stroking the front of your pants, we all know that.

[Datameister 2,586]

My posts are better than anyone else's. Or at least, they were the last time I checked. It's been some time since I've read another member's post.

[Quintus 6,494]

Did anybody hear that? Weird.

Spooky shit going down in ere.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

[Richard P 5,302]

Did you even read my posts...?

Yes. I wish you'd read others' rather than dismissing them as 'nonsense' because you don't like the film.

[Sandor 918]

Did you even read my posts...?

Yes.

Right...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

How do you define unsupported?

Roald is stating his opinion, and clarifies why he feels that way.

An opinion, as opposed to a fact does not need to be supported by evidence.

[Richard P 5,302]

Meh, I can't be bothered with this.

JP is a great movie. I'm happy with that.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Overall I think JP is a good movie. Because it succeeds at what it wants to do.

But I don't think it is a great movie.

[soundwave 0]

What about the scene at the beginning of the film when Grant is trying to scare the kid. I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but I wasn't sure if he was going to slit the kid's stomach open or not with that raptor claw. That's Spielberg building suspense at it's best.

Hmm...you saw Jurassic Park when you were 7?

Actually, I was almost 11 when I first saw it in the theater and besides, I was being sarcastic. I didn't really think Grant would slash the kids stomach.

[pixie_twinkle 60]

Well the 80's was a great decade for film. Creativity and special effects coming together, resulting in some stunning classics. Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, Police Academy, Friday The Thirteenth

Howard the Duck, Xanadu, Supergirl, Never Say Never Again...

[Thor 9,362]

Yikes, this thread got feet, baby!

I go away for an hour, and it's a whole new page of rants.

Is this the regular activity around here?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Yes.

Actually this is fairly tame.

[Quintus 6,494]

Aww, Roald went and deleted the part where he said he was getting scared.

Pride over comedy. Oh well.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

What do you know about pride?

[Sandor 918]

Aww, Roald went and deleted the part where he said he was getting scared.

Pride over comedy. Oh well.

Nah, it just didn't make any sense... Nothing to do with pride.

[Quintus 6,494]

Whatever you say, yeller-belly.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Watch out Roald! He's holding a blade!

[publicist 4,650]

What do you know about pride?

It's Gay Pride week, baby!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

Hmmm..I always figured you were like that.

[Quintus 6,494]

Night of the fight, you may feel a slight sting...

That's pride fuckin' wit ya.

[Sandor 918]

I think this thread has kinda lost its appeal by now. I just want to have the last word.

[Brónach 1,330]

I think this thread has kinda lost its appeal by now. I just want to have the last word.

Are you 7?

[Sandor 918]

I think this thread has kinda lost its appeal by now. I just want to have the last word.

Are you 7?

Are you gonna be a pain in the ass again..?

[gkgyver 1,647]

I can't believe a thread of such midboggling stupidity is growing this rapidly.

[Brónach 1,330]

I think this thread has kinda lost its appeal by now. I just want to have the last word.

Are you 7?

Are you gonna be a pain in the ass again..?

It depends!

[Sandor 918]

I can't believe a thread of such midboggling stupidity is growing this rapidly.

midboggling stupidity?? How ironic...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

CATFIGHT! CATFIGHT!

[Sandor 918]

CATFIGHT! CATFIGHT!

Bring it on bitch...!

[Brónach 1,330]

Raptorfight! Raptorfight!

[Sandor 918]

Raptorfight! Raptorfight!

OMG Are you 7..?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

CATFIGHT! CATFIGHT!

Bring it on bitch...!

LET'S DO THIS THING!

[Sandor 918]

CATFIGHT! CATFIGHT!

Bring it on bitch...!

LET'S DO THIS THING!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

YO MOMMA!

[gkgyver 1,647]

I can't believe a thread of such midboggling stupidity is growing this rapidly.

midboggling stupidity?? How ironic...

LET'S DO THIS THING!

[Sandor 918]

YO MOMMA!

That sounds so f*cking cool coming from you..! It's midboggling...!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbYLjWEEQA

[Quintus 6,494]

Clutching at straws in here now.

Sad bastards!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Every time I check there's another 3 pages.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

The greatest proof of my claim: The Lost World. Back in the 80's how RIDICULOUS would it be to create a sequel to Star Wars WITHOUT Luke Skywalker, a sequel to Raiders WITHOUT Indiana Jones or a sequel to Back To The Future WITHOUT Marty McFly..??!

The Lost World IS that sequel. It's a sequel without the main character(s) from Jurassic Park. And nobody cared anyway: it was all about the special effects.

But it was a sequel with the most memorable human character from the original. Can't complain there.

[Sandor 918]

The greatest proof of my claim: The Lost World. Back in the 80's how RIDICULOUS would it be to create a sequel to Star Wars WITHOUT Luke Skywalker, a sequel to Raiders WITHOUT Indiana Jones or a sequel to Back To The Future WITHOUT Marty McFly..??!

The Lost World IS that sequel. It's a sequel without the main character(s) from Jurassic Park. And nobody cared anyway: it was all about the special effects.

But it was a sequel with the most memorable human character from the original. Can't complain there.

Human character? Please... The guy had some funny lines. He's just as cardboard as the others though.

And I'm not implying these characters have to be fleshed out like Ingmar Bergman would do. Of course not. It's a different kind of film.

But again; there is something fundamentally wrong when the two main characters can so easily be excluded from the sequel. There was no demand obviously to see more of Alan Grant or Ellie Sattler.

That would be like - again - Star Wars II without Luke and Leia, but with Han Solo only and nobody giving a damn as long as there would be more 'spaceships'.

[MrJosh 1,205]

I will say this: I do remember being disappointed and confused when I heard that the other characters would not be showing up in TLW. Nowadays I am not even the slightest surprise when they drop characters from sequels.

[Datameister 2,586]

But again; there is something fundamentally wrong when the two main characters can so easily be excluded from the sequel. There was no demand obviously to see more of Alan Grant or Ellie Sattler.

You're right. It's a good thing all of the Jaws sequels avoided excluding two of the original film's main characters, since that would've totally invalidated your point. Whew!

That would be like - again - Star Wars II without Luke and Leia, but with Han Solo only and nobody giving a damn as long as there would be more 'spaceships'.

Also a good thing they never made any Star Wars films that didn't include Luke and Leia. That would've hurt your argument quite a bit, too!

In all seriousness, TLW is a piece of crap. The quality of a film isn't affected in the slightest by the quality of its sequels.

[Sandor 918]

But again; there is something fundamentally wrong when the two main characters can so easily be excluded from the sequel. There was no demand obviously to see more of Alan Grant or Ellie Sattler.

You're right. It's a good thing all of the Jaws sequels avoided excluding two of the original film's main characters, since that would've totally invalidated your point. Whew!

That would be like - again - Star Wars II without Luke and Leia, but with Han Solo only and nobody giving a damn as long as there would be more 'spaceships'.

Also a good thing they never made any Star Wars films that didn't include Luke and Leia. That would've hurt your argument quite a bit, too!

In all seriousness, TLW is a piece of crap. The quality of a film isn't affected in the slightest by the quality of its sequels.

Yeah, there is so much wrong with your statements, but I'm at work now. Don't have the luxury to give a lengthy response so I'll just give you the short version ok?:

It's crap.

[Quintus 6,494]

I'd rather watch the autopilot LW than Transformers, or the SW prequels.

[Datameister 2,586]

As would I. BTW, thanks for yet another persuasive argument, Roald. This thread is blowing my mind!

[Sandor 918]

I'd rather watch the autopilot LW than Transformers, or the SW prequels.

Yeah, I'd rather watch a film like Close Encounters Of The Third Kind or Fellowship Of The Ring than any of those.

As would I. BTW, thanks for yet another persuasive argument, Roald. This thread is blowing my mind!

You're most welcome!

[Datameister 2,586]

Still stalling? If you're on here instead of working, you might as well explain why either my premises or my argument was invalid. I'm told that such logical rebuttals are generally favored in intelligent conversations.

[Sandor 918]

Still stalling? If you're on here instead of working, you might as well explain why either my premises or my argument was invalid. I'm told that such logical rebuttals are generally favored in intelligent conversations.

Hmmm... It's still a short version though. I'm only interested in the FIRST sequel. Jaws 2, The Empire Strikes Back, Temple Of Doom, Back To The Future II, etc. were the first sequels to HIGHLY POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL FILMS.

Now Jaws 2 doesn't really belong in that list and you know that too.

It would have been ABSURD to have - for example - Temple Of Doom WITHOUT Indiana Jones or Back To The Future II WITHOUT Marty McFly. The only way those sequels would succeed were to have the CHARACTERS return. THEY were the appeal of the originals.

Jurassic Park was also a VERY POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL FILM. Yet with that film it was alright to scrap the main characters. The fundamental problem of JP is exposed by that artistic decision.

With the sequel to JP it was appearantly only important that there would be more f*ckin dinosaurs, more CGI crap. BUT DINOSAURS ARE NOT CHARACTERS. You can not relate to them, you can not laugh at their jokes or get any sense of emotion from them. The dinosaurs in JP should have been part of a canvas on which a HUMAN story was told. This is how stories work, for thousands of years already. Star Wars or Jaws being perfect examples. JP broke that rule and got away with it.