#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 I wonder about the rights of Generations, FC and Insurrection. Didn't GNP have them till the end of time?As for Nemesis, I dont see Varese releasing a complete score. They took a change with this one, because it's Goldsmith, They even released it on SACD, but it flopped badly.
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Considering GNP did II and III, I'm not sure what they had to do for those.Interesting, Lukas' comment on STV's limit.
Joe Brausam 234 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Even though GNP may hold rights till the end of time doesn't mean they can't sub-contract to one of our labels. It just depends on how cooperative they want to be.
Trent B 354 Posted December 13, 2011 Author Posted December 13, 2011 I wonder about the rights of Generations, FC and Insurrection. Didn't GNP have them till the end of time?As for Nemesis, I dont see Varese releasing a complete score. They took a change with this one, because it's Goldsmith, They even released it on SACD, but it flopped badly.Look above at my post from earlier, I stated that GNP has the rights for Generations through Insurrection.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 As for Nemesis, I dont see Varese releasing a complete score. They took a change with this one, because it's Goldsmith, They even released it on SACD, but it flopped badly.But they also just expanded and remastered the previously SACDed Train Robbery.
Jay 46,242 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Because I like to catalog the official Intrada announcements here:INTRADAPresents:THE SAND PEBBLESMusic Composed by JERRY GOLDSMITHConducted by LIONEL NEWMANINTRADA MAF 7116The 1966 20th Century Fox film The Sand Pebbles features one of Jerry Goldsmith's most significant scores. Just five years into his film career and already a double Academy-aware nominee, the opportunity came to him as "an accident" when Alex North dropped out. Goldsmith was slated to score MGMs Grand Prix, but Fox stole him away. Goldsmith constructed his score around two love themesone "American" (which became a much-recorded popular song with lyrics by Leslie Bricusse, "And We Were Lovers") and one "Chinese." In addition to the strong love themes, Goldsmith crafted a score featuring a dramatic infusion of military, action, and Asian influences, leading to a powerful work that remains one of his finest, even considering the decades of Goldsmith's film scoring that succeeded it.Intrada presents the definitive release of The Sand Pebbles, including alternates in this comprehensive 2-CD set. The process of this restoration began with recalling the 2 24-track protection masters made from the original 35mm multi-track magnetic elements in the 1990s. Retransferred at 96k/24 bit resolution, this facilitated the repair of each separate track of audio and the finessing of balance, equalization and stereo steering to bring out the dynamic brilliance of the Fox scoring stage and the studio orchestra's consummate performance under the exacting baton of Lionel Newman. The original ¼ 1966 album master thankfully provided a stereo version of the cue "Repel Boarders," which survived in the Fox material only as a monaural dub. Previously unreleased cues fill out the first-ever complete presentation of the score on Disc 1, while a second disc features album versions, alternates and six pieces of period source music recorded for the film.The Sand Pebbles tells the story of Jake Holman's (Steve McQueen) service on board the San Pablo, an American gunboat patrolling the Yangtze River in 1926, during a time in which China was "ravaged from within by corrupt warlords … oppressed from without by the great world powers … a country of factions trying to unite to become a nation … through revolution."INTRADA MAF 7116Retail Price: $24.99Available for Pre-OrderFor track listing and sound samples, please visithttp://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7333/.fSAND PEBBLES, THE (2CD)Label: Intrada MAF 7116Date: 1966Tracks: 50Time = 109:28Finally! Complete 2-CD presentation of all-time classic Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack from legendary Robert Wise film with Steve McQueen (in his only Oscar-nominated performance), Richard Attenborough, Candice Bergen. Newly re-mixed, re-mastered from original multi-track stereo elements vaulted at 20th Century Fox, 2-CD set features everything in stereo (including stereo CD premiere of "Repel Boarders") plus several previously unreleased cues, numerous never-before-heard alternates as well as Lionel Newman-recorded source music heard in important brothel scenes where Maily (Marayat Andriane) is introduced. Score itself has truly interesting architecture: Goldsmith creates not one but two distinct main themes, yet draws each from the same first four notes! Go one direction, get his military theme for titular gunboat, go the other direction, get his famous major-key love theme for Jake (McQueen), Shirley (Bergen). In addition, composer creates haunting minor-key secondary theme for Frenchie (Attenborough), Maily. Highlights are many but getting spotlight is premiere release of brief all-important cue where Jake first sees "San Pablo" on docks at night. It is here Goldsmith introduces his four widely-spaced notes on French horn, launching military theme that anchors score. Another highlight is premiere release of aggressive, action-oriented alternate for "Commence Firing". Sequence was re-scored, toned down for final production. Both versions are presented here. Strong liner notes by Julie Kirgo, background details by co-producer Michael Matessino, overall supervision by Nick Redman plus both original artwork campaign, 1966 album cover art round out exciting package. Lionel Newman conducts. A genuine film score classic!CD 1 - The Film Score (70:22)01. Overture 2:1702. Main Title 2:5603. Getting Acquainted 3:5204. The San Pablo* 1:0205. Hello, Engine 1:2406. Trial Run – Part I* 0:2407. Trial Run – Part II* 0:2208. Death Of A Coolie 0:5709. Maily Appears 1:0710. The Student 0:4011. Repel Boarders 2:3912. Chang-sha Dock 2:0413. Death Of A Thousand Cuts 4:0714. Not In Vain 0:5915. Chang-sha (Entr'acte) 1:0216. Unfriendly Welcome 0:5317. My Secret 4:0018. Jake And Shirley 4:2219. A Matter Of Ideals 2:0120. The Wedding 6:1021. Coolies Jump Ship 1:5022. Restless Months** 4:3523. Frenchie's Death 2:1824. Maily's Abduction 2:4925. Worried Captain 0:3326. Final Mission/Commence Firing 6:1127. Fire Aft! 2:1328. Almost Home – Part I 1:4629. Night Mission* 0:3430. The Sniper 0:5831. End Title (Almost Home – Part II) 0:5932. Cast Credits (Almost Home – Part III) 0:38CD 2 - Additional Music (39:06)01. Overture (Original Version) 2:5302. Trial Run – Part I (Alternate)* 0:2503. Trial Run – Part II (Alternate)* 0:2504. A Crushing Affair (Music & Effects)* 1:3505. Unfriendly Welcome (Alternate)* 0:4806. Jake And Shirley (Alternate Ending)** 0:4907. Restless Months (Alternate)* 4:3708. Final Mission (Unedited) 3:3609. Commence Firing (Alternate)* 2:1410. Almost Home (Edited Version) 3:0111. Chinese Love Theme 2:2712. And We Were Lovers (Exit Music) 2:39 Additional Music Time: 26:28Source Music13. Toot Toot Tootsie* 2:0314. Five Foot Two* 1:2515. Stumbling* 1:4816. Sleepy Time Gal* 3:2517. I'll See You In My Dreams* 1:5918. Linger Awhile 1:59 Source Music Time: 12:32* Previously Unreleased** Contains Music Previously UnreleasedINTRADA Presents:THE WRONG BOXMusic Composed and Conducted by JOHN BARRYINTRADA Special Collection Vol. 191Intrada presents the premiere CD release of one of John Barry’s rarer catalog items -- the 1966 comedy The Wrong Box. Previously only available on a rare LP from the Mainstream label, this expanded edition fills a significant gap in Barry's discography. Barry's solution for the general feel of the film was to conjure up a sumptuous waltz -- gliding over the film's manic goings-on, subtly adding a sense of reassurance to the giddy proceedings. While various parts of the score more directly address the comic tone, the waltz is the centerpiece. This release features the original soundtrack album in stereo, as well as some lengthy suites in mono of previously unreleased cues, one of which deserves a spotlight: for the early “Montage Of Deaths” sequence, Barry wrote a terrific cue running nearly five minutes. Only the first two minutes appeared on the original album. Now listeners can enjoy the entire piece in its entirety immediately following the "Main Title" on “Suite No.1”.Although the album masters are long lost, the album program is derived from digital transfers from a mint condition stereo copy of the Mainstream LP. Audio restoration was performed using the Sonic Solutions “NoNoise” system. The previously unreleased suites were mastered from pristine condition ¼” 15 ips full track mono tapes vaulted at Sony Pictures Entertainment and transferred by Chace Audio. Additionally, two tracks were found on the original 1/2" session masters and close out the album, including the complete "Montage of Deaths" sequence mentioned above.The Wrong Box tells the story of a Dickens-era school class of boys whom are told that their parents have all participated in a lottery known as a “tontine,” involving a great sum of money placed in a trust to be collected by the “winner”—whoever happens to be the last person standing. The entire amount will be presented to the longest-lived survivor of the class, setting the stage for the life-long antics that follow these boys.INTRADA Special Collection Vol. 191Retail Price: $19.99Available NowFor track listing and sound samples, please visithttp://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.7409/.fWRONG BOX, THELabel: Intrada Special Collection Volume 191Date: 1966Tracks: 17Time = 59:03World premiere release of complete John Barry score for top-drawer 1966 Bryan Forbes black comedy with incomparable cast: John Mills, Ralph Richardson, Michael Caine, Peter Cook, Dudley Moore, Peter Sellers. Written during fertile period that includes THUNDERBALL, IPCRESS FILE, BORN FREE, QUILLER MEMORANDUM, Barry creates warm, lilting major-key waltz theme for Victorian England setting, then surrounds with variety of flavorful ideas both fun, dramatic. In latter portion of score, Barry introduces dizzying orchestral romp for wild hearse sequences. At time of release, Mainstream label issues 29-minute soundtrack album. In later years, stereo LP becomes arguably Barry's rarest, most-sought collector's item. Actual LP masters have long since vanished so this portion of Intrada CD is mastered from mint condition stereo copy of album. Fortunately, Sony vaults contained complete 1/4" session tapes in mono, allowing us to offer world premiere suites with some 20-minutes of never-before-released cues. Extra bonus from Mainstream vaults: one reel of original unedited 1/2" 3-track stereo session masters actually survives, allowing us to include two newly remixed cues. Amongst new musical highlights is both mono, stereo premiere of complete "Montage Of Deaths" cue plus additional music for rousing "Hackett Funeral" sequence. Delicious notes from Nick Redman plus both original artwork campaign, 1966 album cover complete fun package. John Barry conducts. Intrada Special Collection release available while quantities and interest remain!Original 1966 Soundtrack Album In Stereo (29:08)01. Main Title 2:4602. Montage Of Deaths 2:0803. Yes, Who Is That? 1:3204. Strangler 3:1505. Responsible For Bringing Us Together 1:1106. God Save Us/Pedantic, Boring, Old 1:5207. Morris Visits Dr. Pratt 0:5808. Morris Hides As He Sees Handcart 2:3109. Tontine Box Is Put On Hearse 1:3910. Only A Bird In A Gilded Cage (Von Tilzer) 2:4611. Michael & Julia On Hearse 1:4812. Hackett Funeral And Fight 3:5113. Bournemouth Strangler 2:26Previously Unreleased Music In Mono (21:50)14. Suite No. 1 10:17 [Main Title; Montage Of Deaths/Rhino Safari/I Believe You Are Too; Well That's What I'll Do Then/Julie Runs From From Front Door; Morris Takes Candle; God Save Us! Tag]15. Suite No. 2 11:28 [Good Day Cousin; Peacock Looks At Body; …Sequence; I Was Not Always; Salvation Army Major-Masterman; Finish]Two Takes From Three-Track Stereo Session Master (7:54)16. 1M1 T8 "Main Title" 2:5917. 1M2 T2 "Montage Of Deaths/Rhino Safari/I Believe You Are Too" 4:55Total CD Time 59:03Any future discussion about Star Trek IV can go in the thread I just made.
Trent Hoyt 13 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Nice to have Star Trek IV. That was the only Trek movie score that I did not own in some capacity.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Intrada's on a role.I'll pick up Star Trek IV and The Sand Pebbles, and most likely The Core, in January. Still waiting for FSM's next two releases.
Xander Harris 9,674 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 So you're not going to get the complete version of this release? You'll be depriving yourself of a great score.I'm not a completist when it comes to Star Trek scores. I'm more of a highlights guy.
Trent B 354 Posted December 14, 2011 Author Posted December 14, 2011 I'm not a completist when it comes to Star Trek scores. I'm more of a highlights guy.Ah I can understand that. Being one of the resident Trekkies on this forum I am a completest for the Star Trek scores. I love every one of them, there's virtually not one Star Trek score I hate or find dull/boring.Now grant Star Trek IV is the most unique out of the 11 scores and the shortest but at the same time it's pretty fun to listen to. Rosenman scored the scenes perfectly where comedy style music was needed IE: Hospital Chase or with tense music IE: "Crew Stunned", "The Whaler", etc...
OneBuckFilms 517 Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 I've been listening to the OST for the first time in a while.It's certainly an interesting entry, working perfectly in context, and pretty good on its own.I don't hold this up with many of the other scores, but it's a pretty good score.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Come to think of it -- the Trek scores I didn't enjoy are pretty small. I didn't not like Brian Ty;er's two "Enterprise" episode scores.And, still on "Enterprise", I found Kevin Kiner was bad, too -- even bringing down Dennis McCarthy when working together.Don't care for Giacchino's film score. But damn near hated Jerry's Nemesis. The only Trek film I left remembering nothing about the score of, other than the opening or end credits being vaguely like an idea I had thought it might be, a month or so earlier before the film.
Jill Sandwich 11,166 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 Nemesis is a polarising score, it seems. I remember wanting the soundtrack badly after first seeing the film.
Wojo 2,458 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 I even offered my arm and leg for it. Ending up getting it, too.Just can't ride a bike that well anymore.
Trent B 354 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Posted December 16, 2011 But damn near hated Jerry's Nemesis. The only Trek film I left remembering nothing about the score of, other than the opening or end credits being vaguely like an idea I had thought it might be, a month or so earlier before the film.The OST for Nemesis isn't that great, despite the fact that Robert Townson hailed it was a good OST. The nearly complete (missing 2 tracks) score makes a much better listening experience. There's A LOT of great pieces left off of the OST.
Wojo 2,458 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 The best bits are the inclusion of the pulsing Starfleet motif, making its first (?) appearance since The Motion Picture.
Trent B 354 Posted December 16, 2011 Author Posted December 16, 2011 The best bits are the inclusion of the pulsing Starfleet motif, making its first (?) appearance since The Motion Picture.Not necessarily just those but other stuff too."Preparing For Battle""The Battle Begins""Teamwork""Full Reverse / Riker's Victory"Just a small tip of the ice berg. Now grant most of the best stuff is on the second disc but as a whole over all the nearly complete score is definitely a better listening experience.Hell being the Trekkie I am, at first I could NOT get into the score for Star Trek Nemesis. It was only after the nearly complete score leaked is when I was able to get into it and now has become one of my favorites.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 But damn near hated Jerry's Nemesis. The only Trek film I left remembering nothing about the score of, other than the opening or end credits being vaguely like an idea I had thought it might be, a month or so earlier before the film.The OST for Nemesis isn't that great, despite the fact that Robert Townson hailed it was a good OST. The nearly complete (missing 2 tracks) score makes a much better listening experience. There's A LOT of great pieces left off of the OST.OH, he did far more than that. Remember that announcement for the CD? It's no longer on Varese's site, but thankfully Movie-Ware.net preserved some of it in their review:"Goldsmith's greatest Star Trek score since ... Star Trek: The Motion Picture"; "the most aggressive Star Trek score ever"; and above all "as epic as anything the legendary composer has ever written."That's not just an overstatement, it boldly lies like no other lie before. This is EPIC false advertising.
Jill Sandwich 11,166 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 Calling it an "aggressive" score is not inaccurate. It really packs a punch when it hits its heights. The OST just suffers from some poor track selection with some of those more ominous cues weighing down the overall listening experience.
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 OH, he did far more than that. Remember that announcement for the CD? It's no longer on Varese's site, but thankfully Movie-Ware.net preserved some of it in their review:"Goldsmith's greatest Star Trek score since ... Star Trek: The Motion Picture"; "the most aggressive Star Trek score ever"; and above all "as epic as anything the legendary composer has ever written."That's not just an overstatement, it boldly lies like no other lie before. This is EPIC false advertising.No, that's an opinion. I think it's lovely Townson was so enthusiastic about the score (which is a fine score) given it was Jerry's swansong for Star Trek. Whether or not you agree with him is inconsequential, or.maybe you'd prefer him to have said: "I enjoy this score but others may not"
Demondm810 473 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 I love Nemesis. I've been listening to it non-stop for about 2 days now. The First Contact-Insurrection-Nemesis trifecta is sublime.
Jay 46,242 Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 1/1/12To everyone... may you have a Happy New Year!As today kicks the new year off, all of us at Intrada are already knee deep in projects. To be honest, what we have lined up this year is the most ambitious slate we've attempted in our 26-year history. Hopefully there will be something for everyone. Look for some pretty sensational releases coming courtesy our partnership with Disney. In fact, projects with virtually every major studio are now under way... including a milestone new series with one of them. Look for classic recordings you thought you'd never see available. More details on that soon! Even something in the Excalibur series. Just loads of releases for you to choose from. I can't expect you to support them all... but hopefully there are numerous new things coming from us that will tickle your fancy throughout 2012.And so, with lots of excitement for Intrada ahead, and knowing that numerous other soundtrack labels will be abundant with cool releases... may this new year bring forth musical joy to us all.Source: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4567Sounds VERY exciting!!!
Jay 46,242 Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 A "milestone new series" with a "major studio".... hmm. Does Lucasfilm count as a studio? FYI, today's "Big Six" major film studios are: Universal, Sony (Columbia, Tri-Star), Disney (Hollywood, Pixar), Twentieth Century Fox, Paramount, and Warner Brothers (New Line).
Trent B 354 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Posted January 2, 2012 I wouldn't count Lucasfilm...unless it maybe something other than Star Wars. MV told me that Sony wants to keep Star Wars for themselves. Now if it's something like Indiana Jones that would be a different beast all together.
Romão 2,473 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Or the Lucasarts adventure games (personal dream project).But I am very excited about the new Excalibur title. What score should we expect a re-recording of? All the previous Excalibur titles were absolutely stellar (excepts, perhaps, Spellbound)
Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 If it were a williams, I would love a Towering Inferno re-recording.
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I would kill for Intrada/Disney to do a RATATOUILLE expansion.
Trent B 354 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Posted January 3, 2012 I'd rather have a complete release for The Lion King and Aladdin.
Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Peter Pan or Swiss Family Robinson for me.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I guess this means another year of no "Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure". :-(
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 It's Jaws! Has to be!
Demondm810 473 Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 I'd rather have a complete release for The Lion King and Aladdin.Yes, Lion King and the Menkens are hopefully a priority.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Much more interested in Robin Hood.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Only if it's Prince Of Thieves
shockwave 8 Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I wouldn't count Lucasfilm...unless it maybe something other than Star Wars. MV told me that Sony wants to keep Star Wars for themselves. Now if it's something like Indiana Jones that would be a different beast all together.Dare I dream of maybe a complete score to Willow....
Jay 46,242 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Proud Men / To Heal A Nation by Laurence RosenthalandRampage by Elmer Bernsteinare both going OOP on January 17th.I wonder if that is also the date Intrada's first batch of 2012 will drop
Jay 46,242 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Nope! They are going to have releases on Monday!!Two titles, both Special Collection. And both from the same composer...and same year!Source: http://www.intrada.n...php?f=12&t=4571Doesn't really help narrow it down, does it?It won't be Basil Poledouris/1982 because Doug or Roger said Conan The Barbarian would be unlimited (So a MAF, not a Special Collection title).Some random guesses:Georges Delerue - 1983 - Something Wicked This Way Comes, Silkwood, Liberty Belle, Confidentially Yours, One Deadly SummerJames Horner - 1981 - Deadly Blessing, The Hand, The Pursuit of DB CooperJames Horner - 1983 - The Dresser, BrainstormJames Horner - 1985 - Volunteers, CocoonJerry Goldsmith - 1974 - Chinatown, SPYS, Winter Kill, QBVIIJerry Goldsmith - 1978 - Coma, SwarmJerry Goldsmith - 1981 - Raggedy Man, Night CrossingMichael Kamen - 1989 - Road House, Rooftops, RenegadesBasil Poledouris - 1989 - Farewell to the King, WiredBasil Poledouris - 1990 - The Hunt for Red October, Quigley Down UnderBasil Poledouris - 1993 - Robocop 3, Hot Shots Part Deux, Free WillyBasil Poledouris - 1994 - The Jungle Book, On Deadly GroundJohn Williams - 1975 - The Eiger Sanction, JawsJohn Williams - 1978 - Jaws 2, The FuryJohn Williams - 1987 - Witches of Eastwick, Empire of the SunJohn Williams - 1993 - Jurassic Park, Schindler's ListElmer Bernstein? Leonard Rosenman? Laurence Rosenthal? John Barry? Jerry Fielding?
Jay 46,242 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 No one wants to speculate with me?I miss Olivarez
Jay 46,242 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I forgot about Alan Silvestri:Alan Silvestri - 1985 - Fandango & Cat's EyeAlan Silvestri - 1986 - American Anthem, No MercyAlan Silvestri - 1989 - The Abyss, Back To The Future IIAlan Silvestri - 1991 - Shattered, Ricochet, Father of the BrideAlan Silvestri - 1992 - Stop or my Mom Will Shoot, Ferngully, Death Becomes Her, SidekicksAlan Silvestri - 1993 - Super Mario Brothers, Cop and a Half, Judgement Night, Grumpy Old Men
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 No one wants to speculate with me?IS that what they're calling it these days?
Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 I forgot about Alan Silvestri:Alan Silvestri - 1989 - The Abyss, Back To The Future III hope its this!
Jay 46,242 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 No one wants to speculate with me?IS that what they're calling it these days?Huh?
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzlWlgC3Ew0#t=6m02s
EhTar 66 Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Jason, Intrada already released Delerue's Exposed last year. As much as I would love a Williams double-feature, I don't see it happening...
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