Neimoidian 15 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Posted June 10, 2012 What is a "go-to" composer?A composer to whom directors/producers go if they want certain skills appropriate for a certain type of movie.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 new film score of Korzeniowski for a fantasy drama, "Escape from Tomorrow".http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2187884/seems like a medium to low budget, with unknown actors and a first time director.What are they doing there in Hollywood?Are they allergic towards exceptional music talent??Pffff....
Neimoidian 15 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 new film score of Korzeniowski for a fantasy drama, "Escape from Tomorrow".http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2187884/seems like a medium to low budget, with unknown actors and a first time director.What are they doing there in Hollywood?Are they allergic towards exceptional music talent??Pffff....Yes, they are. You can make a shitty score for an expensive and high-grossing movie and you'll be hired for the next one. You can write some of best music in the last couple of years for small, independend pictures and no one is going to let you write anything else. Welcome to Hollywood.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 If only Korzeniowski had scored the Rainman, now, HE would be the king of film music, if you know what i mean..
Neimoidian 15 Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 If only Korzeniowski had scored the Rainman, now, HE would be the king of film music, if you know what i mean.. If only had he scored Sugarland Express...
Incanus 5,890 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 If only Korzeniowski had scored the Rainman, now, HE would be the king of film music, if you know what i mean.. If only had he scored Sugarland Express... If only he hadn't been 2 years old at the time. But then again if he had scored it back then, I would be mightily impressed.Seriously Korzeniowski should be getting more assignments. He obviously is a gifted composer with a lot to give to the medium.
ST-321 42 Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 For anybody that missed Copernicus' Star, it is available on iTunes. Maybe this was common knowledge, but I was surprised to find it there.
Incanus 5,890 Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 It would seem that the score CD is still available through LLL and other internet retailers.
ST-321 42 Posted July 26, 2012 Posted July 26, 2012 It would seem that the score CD is still available through LLL and other internet retailers.You are right. For some reason I had thought that it was sold out.
Neimoidian 15 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Posted August 22, 2012 A clip from the recording session of Abel's new score - Escape from Tomorrow (looks like another indie film; the music sounds stunning though)http:// vimeo.com/47905033 (delete space in link) crocodile 1
filmmusic 3,270 Posted August 22, 2012 Posted August 22, 2012 Wow, thank you very much!!Great music again!But I can't understand how that fits to the video on screen.
KK 3,313 Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 I was just going to post that clip on here but then I realized Neimoidian got there before I did. It really is a fantastic bit of music, but like filmmusic, I really can't see how the music fits the scene on screen,
Neimoidian 15 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Posted August 25, 2012 Maybe it supposes to be operatic, larger larger than life finale cue... Who knows? The music sounds very old fashioned, almost like it's form golden age.
KK 3,313 Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 I wouldn't quite say Golden Age. Sure, the main theme sounds like it fits in that era, but the piano riffs and the more bombastic stuff places itself in modern film scoring.
Neimoidian 15 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Posted September 23, 2012 [media=] Music arranged and conducted by Abel Korzeniowski.
Melange 448 Posted September 23, 2012 Posted September 23, 2012 I started this thread over a year ago to introduce you to an unknown talent, of whom I've been a long-time fan.Now, after these several months, the guy is a Golden Globe nominee.....
filmmusic 3,270 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 Abel Korzeniowski's message at World Soundtrack Awards 2012 [media=]
Neimoidian 15 Posted October 20, 2012 Author Posted October 20, 2012 The guy writes stunning music, but this speech is the most cheesy I have heard since Bill Pullman's/President Whitmore's one in ID4.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted October 20, 2012 Posted October 20, 2012 yes, to tell you the truth i didn't like it either.. I'm sure he means well, and thinks that by this way he's gaining more fans and becomes more "out" to the world..I don't know but i felt kind of embarassed watching it..
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 Is the music playing from W.E.?Goddamn I gotta check out that score.
fommes 165 Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 I saw that speech at the WSA yesterday, and I thought it was hilarious. Best speech ever, surely. It reminds one of the king's New Year address to the people or something like that.To defend Korzeniowski though, I saw him live when he won at the WSA, and I believe he's just an uber-emotional guy, who has some difficulty speaking in English, and it does come from the heart, so I guess that particular mix makes him do speeches like that
Neimoidian 15 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Posted October 21, 2012 Is the music playing from W.E.?Goddamn I gotta check out that score.It is. You must - it's gorgeous.To defend Korzeniowski though, I saw him live when he won at the WSA, and I believe he's just an uber-emotional guy, who has some difficulty speaking in English, and it does come from the heart, so I guess that particular mix makes him do speeches like that True. He is very passionate about what he does and it's good, because, ultimately, you can hear this passion in his music (often written to obscure and sometimes even not-so-good movie).
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted October 21, 2012 Posted October 21, 2012 What else by him do you recommend, Chris? I blind bought Copernicus' Star and love it. I'm aware of A Single Man and will check out W.E.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 His Metropolis score is also very good!although I don't know of an official release somewhere.By the way, the second track of "A Single Man" (which is really the main titles of the film), is actually a movement of the Metropolis score, reworked a tiny bit.
Kevin 23 Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 I have a signed copy of Copernicus' Star that I am willing to part with.
KK 3,313 Posted October 22, 2012 Posted October 22, 2012 I wish we'd get an official release for Battle for Terra. What I've heard sounds fantastic.
Neimoidian 15 Posted October 22, 2012 Author Posted October 22, 2012 What else by him do you recommend, Chris? I blind bought Copernicus' Star and love it. I'm aware of A Single Man and will check out W.E.Both A Single Man and W.E. are essentials and available on CD.You should also check out Battle for Terra. Although it has never been officially released, Abel made it available for download on his FB profile once, thus it's possible you can still find it somewhere in the vaults of internet. (you can listen to some cues from that score on www.abelkorzeniowski.com )Metropolis is another gem - possibly his greatest soundtrack. It has never been released either, although you can find large portion of that score on Abel's page. There you can also find a handful of his lesser soundtracks like Tickling Leo (another worthy effort)
crocodile 9,724 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I wish we'd get an official release for Battle for Terra. What I've heard sounds fantastic.I've heard only about 17 minutes of that score and I'd like to own it.Karol
crocodile 9,724 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Is there more out there than those 5-6 tracks?Karol
Jay 46,244 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I have no idea what 5-6 trakcs you're talking about, but the official promo has this track list:1. Journey Through Space2. Flying with Whales3. Life on Terra / First Strike4. Oxygen Tent5. Ceremony of Life6. Low B7. Hijacking the Ship8. Mala Finds Father9. General Hemmer10. The Ultimate Test11. War Begins12. Battle13. Destroying the Terraformer14. EpilogueIt's available all over the internet
crocodile 9,724 Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I'm listening right now. It is even better than I thought. Someone needs to release the whole thing already.Karol
Neimoidian 15 Posted November 12, 2012 Author Posted November 12, 2012 Abel has recently released his SONG FOR THE LITTLE SPARROW, his original, instrumental piece, written in homage to Piaf, available on Kaas Chante Piaf album that he arranged for Patricia Kaas.You can listen to it on Abel's homepage. As usual, it's stunning beyond words.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 1, 2012 Posted December 1, 2012 So W.E. is awesome. Gonna go for Battle For Terra next. Wow, another film that Avatar is exactly like.
Neimoidian 15 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Posted December 3, 2012 Yet another piece by Abel - The Dream Maker from Tiffany & Co ad. (heavily based on W.E., though)http://www.abelkorze...the-dream-maker
KK 3,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Started off with Korzeniowski's typical minimalistic structures while bordering on a bit of Phillip Glass, and then it became nothing more than a reworking of W.E.It was a nice listen though.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I actually started to find him very similar to Philip Glass the other day when I listened to A Single Man, Battle For Terra, Copernicus' Star, and W.E. Not in style, but in that Abel's scores are actually quite derivative of one another.
KK 3,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 Not in style, but in that Abel's scores are actually quite derivative of one another.They are. Korzeniowski's work largely relies on Glass-inspired minimalistic structures, even in his larger scale fantasy scores. Some don't be surprised if you get a sense of deja vu in his drama scores.But the man can take that style and work some soaring magic that resonates quite well on an emotional level. And although he may not always push his musical boundaries, his work is incredibly satisfying as a listening experience.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I agree, but I already feel like I should stick to a handful of scores to get my Abel fix, just like Notes On A Scandal is my definitive Glass score. Battle For Terra felt much like Copernicus' Star without a lot of the thematic melody. That and W.E. and the occasional A Single Man should hold me over if I want to get a dose of his style.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I actually started to find him very similar to Philip Glass the other day when I listened to A Single Man, Battle For Terra, Copernicus' Star, and W.E. Not in style, but in that Abel's scores are actually quite derivative of one another.I think this is due to the minimalistic style used.This is a very restricted style with which you can't do many things..Ok, you use scales, arpeggios, certain chords, repeated rhythms but what next?Still though, It's very good music and he has become one of my favourite composers nowadays...But maybe he should incorporate other elements in his music too before becoming tiring, predictable and unfresh.Of course I understand, everyone would ask him now to do another W.E. or Single Man..
KK 3,313 Posted December 4, 2012 Posted December 4, 2012 I agree, but I already feel like I should stick to a handful of scores to get my Abel fix, just like Notes On A Scandal is my definitive Glass score. Battle For Terra felt much like Copernicus' Star without a lot of the thematic melody. That and W.E. and the occasional A Single Man should hold me over if I want to get a dose of his style.I know what you mean. Interesting you bring Phillip Glass up. I love Notes on a Scandal and like you, its my definitive Glass score as well. And then I play The Illusionist, which is the light-hearted twin to NoaS, and I find myself bored. There's only so much of it you can take. I think that's often the case with minimalism. I enjoyed The Hours more, but even then I need to be in a certain mood to enjoy it. But anytime I play the CD to Notes on a Scandal, there's no helping loving it.Korzeniowski's better at spicing up that style than Glass is though.I actually started to find him very similar to Philip Glass the other day when I listened to A Single Man, Battle For Terra, Copernicus' Star, and W.E. Not in style, but in that Abel's scores are actually quite derivative of one another.I think this is due to the minimalistic style used.This is a very restricted style with which you can't do many things..Ok, you use scales, arpeggios, certain chords, repeated rhythms but what next?Still though, It's very good music and je jas become one of my favourite compsoer nowadays...But maybe he should incorporate other elements in his music too before becoming tiring, predictable and unfresh.Of course I understand, everyone would ask him now to do another W.E. or Single Man..It may be different for the Oscar bait drama films, but with fantasy films like Copernicus Star, he isn't be forced to write with minimalism. And yet, he seems fond of writing his music like that.It's great hearing his music. But like Koray said, his work may become a tired sound soon (but that seems pretty far off for now).
Neimoidian 15 Posted December 6, 2012 Author Posted December 6, 2012 I actually started to find him very similar to Philip Glass the other day when I listened to A Single Man, Battle For Terra, Copernicus' Star, and W.E. Not in style, but in that Abel's scores are actually quite derivative of one another.It's basically due to temp tracks, as usual. One thing is his trademark tricks which can be heard in most of his scores, another is writing what directors and producers demand and often they demand what they heard in a previous score.As for Glass, Abel admits he is very fond of his music and that it has strong influence on his own works.
filmmusic 3,270 Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 Korzeniowski's W.E. used in Renault Clio ad:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCsbD5tiHXkthe 19 first seconds are from W.E. I'm not sure if the rest is from W.E. too or from another movie of his..well, that's the danger with minimalistic music.. It doesn't always have a specific personality..
Neimoidian 15 Posted December 9, 2012 Author Posted December 9, 2012 the 19 first seconds are from W.E. I'm not sure if the rest is from W.E. too or from another movie of his..well, that's the danger with minimalistic music.. It doesn't always have a specific personality..I am preety sure it all comes straight from W.E.
KK 3,313 Posted December 9, 2012 Posted December 9, 2012 that's the danger with minimalistic music.. It doesn't always have a specific personality..Although like Neimoidian, I think the whole clip was from W.E, I agree that its harder to give minimalism a distinct personality, but Glass sure as hell proved it was possible with Notes on a Scandal.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 But it really isn't distinct. Pick any other Glass score and you'll get more or less the same. That's just the one I think is the best to go to for a taste of Philip Glass.
KK 3,313 Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 I agree, The Illusionist sounds like The Hours. But Glass gave his all too familiar minimalistic structures personality in Notes on a Scandal, which sure sets itself apart from Glass' other works. I mean The Illusionist and Notes on a Scandal share the exact same structures and yet the latter makes itself far more distinct.
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