Popular Post Jay 46,243 Posted April 29, 2013 Popular Post Posted April 29, 2013 hornist, publicist and Muad'Dib 3
Pieter Boelen 1,032 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 I didn't know John Williams' son was in those songs. Learned something new again today.
Thor 9,362 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Really? Joseph is one of the 'legends' of Toto. Perhaps you also didn't know that he was Simba's adult singing voice in THE LION KING?
Pieter Boelen 1,032 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Perhaps you also didn't know that he was Simba's adult singing voice in THE LION KING?That part I knew. But only because I had to tag the MP3 files. I never did do any research on it and I know just about exactly nothing about rock music stuff.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Then again, his parts in Toto and The Lion King are all I know about him. Has he done anything else of interest?
Thor 9,362 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Then again, his parts in Toto and The Lion King are all I know about him. Has he done anything else of interest?Not much. He wrote "Lapti Nek" for his father's RETURN OF THE JEDI, plus some other source cues for the same film.He's done a bunch of solo albums and session work, but nothing I've paid particular attention to.He's also tried his hands at scoring -- albeit briefly -- among other things the main theme for the series MIRACLES:
Luke Skywalker 2,383 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 if you look at the gorfaine-schwarz agency, i think it says he worked in AI, attack of the clones... and some other william scores.But man, how mean to 'mock' your father that way in public...i mean WE all do, but not in TV Probably most people dindt even got that he was imitating his father's voice and way of speaking
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 True, he did a little work on some of his father's scores (the "pop bits"). Forgot about that.
Rachael Foley 10,162 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Didn't Joseph do TPM's tatooine source music?
hornist 1,261 Posted April 29, 2013 Posted April 29, 2013 Otherwise dated output, "Rosanna" still sounds brilliant.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 Not to forget Africa from the same album (not featured in the video). Those were before Williams' time though.
Incanus 5,890 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 That was mildly funny. Joseph was obviously trying to retain his tough Toto street cred by impersonating John in that condescending voice.
MSM 194 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 True, he did a little work on some of his father's scores (the "pop bits"). Forgot about that.Yes, I think he did the techno bit in Minority Report too.Then again, his parts in Toto and The Lion King are all I know about him. Has he done anything else of interest?Not much. He wrote "Lapti Nek" for his father's RETURN OF THE JEDI, plus some other source cues for the same film.He's done a bunch of solo albums and session work, but nothing I've paid particular attention to.He's also tried his hands at scoring -- albeit briefly -- among other things the main theme for the series MIRACLES: Doesnt sound bad at all. The oboe solo even reminds me of dad.
Jay 46,243 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Posted April 30, 2013 Not to forget Africa from the same album (not featured in the video). Those were before Williams' time though.Africa was in the video
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 It was? Must have missed it then.
Jay 46,243 Posted April 30, 2013 Author Posted April 30, 2013 Go to 2:00. It begins playing as Joe is impersonating his dad, and then they show the music video. It plays until 2:30
Quintus 6,495 Posted April 30, 2013 Posted April 30, 2013 FilmNet? That channel used to show hardcore porn after the watershed! My dad recalibrated our satellite tv dish especially! Circa 1992-93.(He didn't know me and my mates figured that out...)
Uni 307 Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 Was he with Toto when they scored Dune? (I would think that would count as some film scoring experience.)- Uni
Thor 9,362 Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 Was he with Toto when they scored Dune? (I would think that would count as some film scoring experience.)- UniNo, Joseph joined in 1986, two years after the film was released.
Jilal 681 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 if you look at the gorfaine-schwarz agency, i think it says he worked in AI, attack of the clones... and some other william scores.Well, perhaps he composed the music for the Pre-Crime commercial.
Naïve Old Fart 13,021 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Don't think so. To me, it sounds, and "feels" like JW. The only bit of extra "original" music was by Paul Haslinger (ex-Tangerine Dream).
Incanus 5,890 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Don't think so. To me, it sounds, and "feels" like JW. The only bit of extra "original" music was by Paul Haslinger (ex-Tangerine Dream).I agree. The Pre-Crime commercial music has JW finger prints all over it. Especially the cyclical motif repeating in the middle of the piece is something that seems to have been stuck in his head through many scores and other pieces.
indy4 160 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 I agree--I would love to hear an orchestral expansion of the piece actually, sounds like it could be a kick ass action cue.
Incanus 5,890 Posted May 7, 2013 Posted May 7, 2013 Actually the piece itself would make a killer ring tone.
Luke Skywalker 2,383 Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 maybe he is responsible for playing the synth cues, or 'composing' them in the commputer....while john Williams has written the notes.I mean,
Falstaft 2,241 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 Reviving this thread to post Joseph Williams's latest quarantine selfie. My goodness does he resemble his father!! Â Â
Arpy 4,255 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 He's using the age app filter! 1977 and Naïve Old Fart 2
Falstaft 2,241 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, Arpy said: He's using the age app filter! Of course, it's called the "John Towner Touch-Up" filter
Incanus 5,890 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Falstaft said: Reviving this thread to post Joseph Williams's latest quarantine selfie. My goodness does he resemble his father!!   Hey, he posted this one in February.  Joseph Williams@dashlrow   I think I’m starting to look like my dad. Falstaft 1
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Fabulin said: His father looks younger. Â I was just going to post this.
Tom 6,860 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:  I was just going to post this. Classical vs Rock n Roll. Â
Manakin Skywalker 5,941 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/29/2013 at 4:55 PM, Fal J. M. Skywalker said: Didn't Joseph do TPM's tatooine source music? Â No, that was just a rumor. He did do the source cue for Dex's diner in AOTC though.
Jurassic Shark 16,430 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 On 4/29/2013 at 9:03 PM, Jay said: Â Â Cringe! Â On 4/29/2013 at 9:37 PM, Thor said: Really? Joseph is one of the 'legends' of Toto. Â Because he got kicked out after two years?
Thor 9,362 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Because he got kicked out after two years?  Well, he returned in 2010, and is the current lead singer. Also, he wasn't kicked out, but left due to personal problems at the time (the late 80s was a very turbulent time for the Williams family -- John had his back problems all through 1988, Jennifer had a stroke in 1989 and Mark was struggling with addiction issues around this time).
Jurassic Shark 16,430 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Thor said: Well, he returned in 2010, and is the current lead singer. Â On Wikipedia it says 2010 - 2019, but maybe it's just not updated.
Thor 9,362 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Yes, probably not updated. I'm not aware that he has left the band (again).
Dzadza 91 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 he didn't leave - toto doesn't exist anymore ;-)
Thor 9,362 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dzadza said: he didn't leave - toto doesn't exist anymore ;-)  Just checked Wiki, and it seems they decided to take "an extended hiatus" after their 40th anniversary tour last year. Must have missed that piece of news. I guess that means they are open to getting back together again when the time feels right. Heck, at the moment every single band in the world is on an extended hiatus.
Dzadza 91 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Thor said:  Just checked Wiki, and it seems they decided to take "an extended hiatus" after their 40th anniversary tour last year. Must have missed that piece of news. I guess that means they are open to getting back together again when the time feels right. Heck, at the moment every single band in the world is on an extended hiatus. I believe that has something to do with Jeff Porcaro's widow suing them and banning them from using the name toto - it's a long story (from what I heard) but basically, they can no longer perform under that name... nothing official - but Lukather said something like that when he announced their last gig. He didn't want to elaborate because toto apparently lost the case in court
Ricardo Mortimer 43 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 12:18 PM, Thor said:  Well, he returned in 2010, and is the current lead singer. Also, he wasn't kicked out, but left due to personal problems at the time (the late 80s was a very turbulent time for the Williams family -- John had his back problems all through 1988, Jennifer had a stroke in 1989 and Mark was struggling with addiction issues around this time).  I'm curious about more family details. It is interesting. Thanks
Thor 9,362 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ricardo Mortimer said:  I'm curious about more family details. It is interesting. Thanks  Well, John Williams' back problems forced him to take a year off from many conducting gigs in 1988. He seems to have managed THE ACCIDENTAL TOURIST (his only film score that year), but it's a very low-key score to begin with. Of his four short concert pieces that premiered this year, "Fanfare for Ten-Year-Olds" was not conducted by him, and neither was "Fanfare for Michael Dukakis". Not sure about "Olympic Spirit" (more of a TV theme than a concert piece) and "To Lenny! To Lenny!" (aka "For New York"), and who conducted them.  Mark's addiction problems in this period have been mentioned in interviews a few times over the years (among others, by his son Lionel), but details are rare, as is information on the timeframe.  Jennifer's stroke is more documented. She suffered the ailment while giving birth to her second child, Ethan, in 1989. She eventually recovered completely, but her struggles were actually turned into a TV movie called A TIME TO HEAL (1994), scored by her husband at the time, Jay Gruska.  Joseph's problems, the ones that caused him to leave Toto temporarily, are unknown at this time (at least to me).  In either case, it was a tough time for all of them.
Jurassic Shark 16,430 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Thor said: Joseph's problems, the ones that caused him to leave Toto temporarily, are unknown at this time (at least to me). Â Didn't he ghostwrite The Last Crusade while JW was recovering?
Ricardo Mortimer 43 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Williams' the second back problems were during recording Jurassic Park or not? When he fell in the studio. I read it here on the website. I do not know where. Thanks for this. Williams' family is not on the tabloid newspaper and this is really instructive    A TIME TO HEAL page on Wiki deserves an update!
Thor 9,362 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ricardo Mortimer said:  A TIME TO HEAL page on Wiki deserves an update!  It does, yes. I saw the film ages ago, on a CD-R, but it's on Youtube in its entirety now, for those interested. They've changed the last names of the characters, but kept the real first names of the family (Jenny, Jay, Barbara).  Â
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