Man Of Steel (2013 Superman reboot directed by Zack Snyder)

[publicist 4,650]

Superloud?

Yes. As for the americana part, your ship has come in, the story moves to Metropolis only in the last minutes (not that it matters much). But be prepared that there is neither harm nor physical laws for any character in the looooong sfx sequences (i'm looking at you, final showdown!) - it's like any TRANSFORMERS movie, just a showcase for ILM/WETA whoever.

[A24 5,156]

Superloud?

Yes. As for the americana part, your ship has come in, the story moves to Metropolis only in the last minutes

Concerning the Transformers part, I hope it's not exactly the same for that would mean that I won't care for what is going on (because it's just flicker and noise).

[crocodile 9,724]

I believe that's exactly what he means.

Karol

[A24 5,156]

I know but I hope it's not quite the same. I couldn't make out what was going on in Transformers because the camera was too close to the action. Then again, I couldn't make out what was going in Batman Begins either.

Alex

[Quintus 6,495]

Burton's Batman movies had a humorful tone. Nolan got rid of that and apparently it works. I see no reason why a more serious Superman can't work either.

Alex

Maybe you're misinterpreting. Nobody is claiming not to want a serious Superman film. In fact that's exactly what most of us have been pining after for years.

I know but I hope it's not quite the same. I couldn't make out what was going on in Transformers because the camera was too close to the action. Then again, I couldn't make out what was going in Batman Begins either.

Alex

Don't worry about it. There's a good chance you'll completely disagree with pub.

[publicist 4,650]

No he won't.

[Quintus 6,495]

Maybe you're right. Fuck knows.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[crocodile 9,724]

The film aside, I really like this artwork:

Karol - whose expectations are quite low anyway.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

you like that because the superman suit is bright colored, like it should be.

[Brónach 1,330]

I wish that was an actual poster for the film.

Maybe the psychologically challenged superhero has run its course.

Hum.

Could be.

Maybe the psychologically challenged superhero has run its course.

Depends on how the audience will be able to relate to the character. If he's goofy and does slapstick scenes (like some conservative critics seem to demand!) then it's over and out with Supes.

I want humour in a film about an alien that looks human and flies with a cape. Even Watchmen has a certain sense of humour sometimes.

[publicist 4,650]

We should ask Fuck, then.

Fuck says it's a triumph. If WB would pony up a new Macbook for me i would say the same.

[Quintus 6,495]

Ah, you're that sort of critic, then.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

you like that because the superman suit is bright colored, like it should be.

yes, again filmmakers afraid of bright colors.

as for the 1978 Donnor film, the humorless Americana parts as Alex suggests, you know the part where Clarke lifts the truck after the jack collapses, Clark punting the football and it soars out of sight, or Clark racing the train as a young Lois Lane watches, or the showing off in front of his school mates about he ran home, you know those part that did not make any member chuckle in the least. Those parts worked well.

[A24 5,156]

you like that because the superman suit is bright colored, like it should be.

yes, again filmmakers afraid of bright colors.

No, they are not. Most films have 'normal' colors. Being afraid has nothing to do with it. Nobody objects to film in color so it's actually the safest choice.

Alex

[gkgyver 1,647]

you like that because the superman suit is bright colored, like it should be.

yes, again filmmakers afraid of bright colors.

I don't see that. You did watch The Hobbit, right (even though this is an example of the opposite extreme)?

It's more an issue of the filmmakers not putting brighter colours where they could belong, like in Superman.

[Quintus 6,495]

Most of The Hobbit looks like friggin' Pixar movie. I can no longer STAND Jackson's colour grading.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

filmmakers today are afraid of bright colors. The world is filled with bright colors but we don't see that reflexed in films.

Just think how Jason's blue shirt in the BPO thread would look if photographed by the filmmakers of today, it would probably be some grayish blue, dull and matted.

[Quintus 6,495]

Currently sitting at 67% on RT, I'm beginning to think this might just be another thowaway superhero diversion along the lines of The Avengers. Enjoyable but forgettable. Hope I'm wrong.

The number of reviews lamenting the distinct lack of lightness is growing steadily. If the sending of a message turns out to be the best thing to come out of Snyder's vision then the film is still well worthwhile. Superman fans do NOT want Batman influences!

[crocodile 9,724]

Well, Watchmen got 64% so it doesn't really say much.

Anyway, has anyone noticed how Nolan seemed to have almost disappeared from the promotional and marketing materials of the film? He's in none of the featurettes, nor on the poster. On top of that, there is this bit of news his involvement in the sequel won't be as "full blown".

Karol

[Quintus 6,495]

That's encouraging, but then again Watchmen was one of a kind.

[ZackR 187]

Currently sitting at 67% on RT, I'm beginning to think this might just be another thowaway superhero diversion along the lines of The Avengers. Enjoyable but forgettable. Hope I'm wrong.

The number of reviews lamenting the distinct lack of lightness is growing steadily. If the sending of a message turns out to be the best thing to come out of Snyder's vision then the film is still well worthwhile. Superman fans do NOT want Batman influences!

Correct. I grew up on DC characters. Love Superman and Batman. I want Superman (the character) and any films to be drastically different from Batman. While I enjoyed Batman Begins and The Dark Knight (didn't like the third at all), I can't imagine wanting a Superman film even remotely similar to those.

By the way, I find the Nolan Batman films to be VERY overrated. I think people hype them simply for their claim to creating Batman in a "real" world.

I hope Man of Steel is good. I've loved this character for as long as I can remember. I like the fact that he used to be the impossible ideal of what people could only dream to achieve (and I'm not talking about his powers). He represented a hypothetical "best" version of us as human beings, yet he was an alien.

I'm not sure I want a Superman I can relate to. In my mind, that kind of defeats the purpose of the character.

Then again, I'm sure most would consider me more than a little naive and antiquated in my view.

[gkgyver 1,647]

Well, Watchmen got 64% so it doesn't really say much.

Anyway, has anyone noticed how Nolan seemed to have almost disappeared from the promotional and marketing materials of the film? He's in none of the featurettes, nor on the poster. On top of that, there is this bit of news his involvement in the sequel won't be as "full blown".

Karol

Thank god for that.

I'm watching the film with a friend of mine, so that I have someone in case I feel the need to blow a gasket.

[Quintus 6,495]

A review I'd be inclined to take more seriously: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/man-of-steel/25950/man-of-steel-review

[crocodile 9,724]

Not sure what to expect from it anymore. I'll share my thoughts when I see it Friday evening. Got the ticket earlier today.

Karol

[nightscape94 968]

Here's the type of review I was hoping not to read, as it seems to touch on my concerns.

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/06/man-of-steel-movie-review/

[JoeinAR 1,957]

I'm still waiting for the review to pop up that says Zimmer's score is even greater than John Williams. It might be out there,

[crocodile 9,724]

One review stated the films has got "a lovely Zimmer score".

Karol

[JoeinAR 1,957]

I'm sure there are several of those. I also read one that as soon as you leave the theatre his score leaves your mind.

for 35 years the Superman march is the music I hum when an unwanted song gets stuck in my head.

[publicist 4,650]

If you watch the movie you will realize that there is really no place for a John-Williams-score in it. I found Zimmer's score totally spot-on, even if this is a really left-handed compliment. The place a film score had in the innocous times when Williams and Goldsmith were kings is gone, the music in MOS is layed on with a trowel, often barely distinguishable from the barrage of sound effects and only makes a contribution in some of the 'inspirational' scenes.

[Brónach 1,330]

I'm not asking for a "JW's 78' Superman" score, I'm asking for a better score.

Certainly not an "HZ's 13' Man of Steel" score.

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I'm not asking for a "JW's 78' Superman" score, I'm asking for a better score.

Certainly not an "HZ's 13' Man of Steel" score.

Yeah I agree. I'm fine with them dropping Williams theme. I welcomed it. It's a new take on the series and has no relation to the Donner movies, so why use the same theme? I was even...okay...with Zimmer being hired on for the score, but I am not very okay with the result. I'll reserve my complete judgement until I see the film, BUT from hearing the Full Deluxe Edition, there's not a lot to be excited about music wise.

[Quintus 6,495]

This seems to be the big presumption where the score is concerned. Anyone who dared to complain about Zimmers effort while he was still putting it together (and after) was deemed to be a whining Williams fanboy who wouldn't accept anything but the original themes.

That was a load of bollocks.

[publicist 4,650]

This is a load of bollocks and you know it.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

so Pub having seen the film do they ever refer to him as Superman or was that tabood?

[Brónach 1,330]

This is a load of bollocks and you know it.

What is? Zimmer's score?

[Quintus 6,495]

This is a load of bollocks and you know it.

Because Zimmer otherwise has a history of consistent brilliance and universal love here, right? Why would anyone here ever have reservations about what he might come up? How unreasonable! Worries were always gonna be completely unfounded! Nope, no reason to be concerned there at all. C'mon pub, pull your head out of your arse son.

[Brónach 1,330]

Pretty much.

Although the film doesn't look like something to make me cry rainbows of joy so I'm not al that concerned. Still, I could enjoy a good blockbuster score of the month.

[publicist 4,650]

so Pub having seen the film do they ever refer to him as Superman or was that tabood?

It is mentioned in hushed tone a few times, nothing on the scale of Hackman exclaiming SUPERMAN!!

[gkgyver 1,647]

Pretty much.

Although the film doesn't look like something to make me cry rainbows of joy so I'm not al that concerned. Still, I could enjoy a good blockbuster score of the month.

As long as Star Trek Into Darkness is still running, Zimmer's score isn't even that.

[publicist 4,650]

Because Zimmer otherwise has a history of consistent brilliance and universal love here, right? Why would anyone here ever have reservations about what he might come up? How unreasonable! Worries were always gonna be completely unfounded! Nope, no reason to be concerned there at all. C'mon pub, pull your head out of your arse son.

This isn't about Zimmer at all. I faintly remember how you tried to pull that routine on me the last time where allegedly nobody ever claimed that a 1978-style Williams score would fit Snyder's movie.

[Quintus 6,495]

What? That was a completely different conversation to this. I am arguing that a different composer to Zimmer would have been hugely preferable, nothing else. And by different I don't necessary mean John Williams. What's so difficult to understand? Must be your difficulties with translation again.

[Brónach 1,330]

I shall see this film (no hurries) and try to take some scenes of it and use JW's Superman music on them, because as much as I would enjoy another great new score I'm not all that sure that it wouldn't occasionally fit.

It looks easier to track with War of the Worlds, though.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,110]

Superdud!

[JoeinAR 1,957]

so Pub having seen the film do they ever refer to him as Superman or was that tabood?

It is mentioned in hushed tone a few times, nothing on the scale of Hackman exclaiming SUPERMAN!!

that was great but his Miss Teshmacher was even more brilliant.

[Ollie 1,375]

If they expect Dark Knight box office this film will need to pull in more than a $100 million this weekend.

[Quintus 6,495]

I hope Lex has his bath robe given to him whilst still stood in the pool or this movie will be a total failure.

[publicist 4,650]

so Pub having seen the film do they ever refer to him as Superman or was that tabood?

It is mentioned in hushed tone a few times, nothing on the scale of Hackman exclaiming SUPERMAN!!

that was great but his Miss Teshmacher was even more brilliant.

Nothing like this or 'Kneel before Zod'.

If there's something like actors having fun, this film doesn't know it.

[Ollie 1,375]

I want to see a long arm, oh wait, no Otis in this one.

[publicist 4,650]

Instead there is a deafening - and i mean deafening - 60 minute showdown (the whole movie seems to be) where all that a 1000 computers can manage is blowing up and/or turned on its head. It was there when i really got pissed at the movie.