The Hobbit Film Trilogy Thread

[Brónach 1,330]

[Incanus 5,890]

OK. Radagast officially looks awful!

[gkgyver 1,647]

Looks like something out of Monty Python.

[Jay 46,241]

Looks fine to me!

[Wojo 2,458]

I'm not sure how well dressed, clean cut, and tidy you all expected a wizard who hangs out with the animals for hundreds and hundreds of years to look. He looks the part.

[Incanus 5,890]

Fine, ok. Go ahead and like the design! See if I care!

[Brónach 1,330]

After looking at the picture for a while I don't see what's so wrong with it. Brown clothing, hat with a feather, long hair and beard, gloves.

[Incanus 5,890]

So as long as mentioned elements are in a design, it is the same to you how it final character looks like?

[Brónach 1,330]

No, I mean his look is pretty straightforward. He doesn't have a hairdo or an axe embedded in his skull.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

The Hobbit and LotR aren't separate entities, and never were because they are just two stories in the history of Middle Earth, which Tolkien developed his whole life. Looking at The Hobbit and LotR simply as two\four books is way too narrow minded.

The Hobbit is not a prequel, just like LotR wouldn't be a sequel to The Hobbit, had it been made after it. Period.

This was the point I was trying to make. Middle Earth is its own entity, it goes beyond the books Tolkien wrote.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

OK. Radagast officially looks awful!

JACKSON HAS RAPED MY CHILDHOOD DOING THESE PREQUELS...

If the hat's top is pointy like gandalfs, i may accept the design.

If it's a russian-hat like the whateever his name dwarf...

then i HATE it.

[Jonesy 55]

Radagast should wear a hood.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

The Hobbit is not a prequel, just like LotR wouldn't be a sequel to The Hobbit, had it been made after it. Period.

are you talking about the film here? otherwise i dont understand the last sentence.

You are wrong, if the LOTR films were made after the HOBBIT films they would sequels to the hobbit (even if tolkien didnt meant it that way). As much as TTT and ROTK are sequels to FOTR (even if we know tolkien intended it to be one whole work; the films were made like that (trilogy= film+sequel+sequel).

I'm sure they are officially classified as that in the film industry.

if the hobbit had no relation to LOTR and was just another story set in middle earth, LOTR film made after Hobbit films would be 'spin-offs'. Or as you can it, entities within middle earth history. But my friend, they happen to find LOTR's Mcguffin in Hobbit so they are much more than that.

Let's this debate end... but really i think i'm not mumbling nonsense.

And to think people tried to convince me that the PT and OT were unrelated entities...

Radagast should wear a hood.

yeah

[Joe Brausam 234]

What's the problem with him? I think he looks great.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Really,

Is not there a single design in these films in where someone does not jump saying 'i love it, it's great, it's perfect?

I mean is there a design that we ALL agree it's bad?

I just can't believe it, with the weird designs were have seen so far...

[Incanus 5,890]

People are obviously not as set on a certain kind of visual representation of these characters as we are Manuel. By which I mean the right dignified and correct one.

[Jay 46,241]

I like everything I've seen so far, with the exception of the one dwarf that has an axe stuck in his head. That just doesn't make sense

[gkgyver 1,647]

It seems Mr Skywalker can't handle it when there are people behind a movie who know what they are doing ...

I would like to see Radagast in full before I make up my mind. But he certainly looks not quite in line with the other powerful wizards. I guess what I find is lacking is a bit of dignity.

[alicebrallice 134]

OK. Radagast officially looks awful!

not what he looks like in my mind at all. it's the hat and something else, can't put my finger on it. the eyes, perhaps.

[Incanus 5,890]

I guess it is some lack of dignity the gkgyver mentions above. He looks so pathetic and un-wizard like in that image, almost like a scared hobo. And something in that make-up doesn't look right.

[Brónach 1,330]

You dislike the picture because of McCoy's shy look and pose, basically.

[Henry B 51]

He looks like Yoda.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

...

These two pics look like they were taken from a video. I'm betting they are from the new trailer.

[Incanus 5,890]

You dislike the picture because of McCoy's shy look and pose, basically.

No, mostly because he looks like a deranged pixie or a hobo from under the bridge, not a wizard. Let's see how Radagast bears closer scrutiny in the film though. Perhaps, I certainly hope so, McCoy's performance can excuse his awful appearance.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[Brónach 1,330]

We knew that already.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[Incanus 5,890]

I did not notice that before but I am befuddled. And it is outrageous! Preposterous even! He is the crazy pigeon lord!

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Les Miz opens the same day as the Hobbit. Makes my movie choice much easier.

I'm going to go see the one with the great music and songs, none of which will be about dwarves. .

[BloodBoal 8,711]

Good for you.

[Wojo 2,458]

I'm excited to see Les Miserables on the big screen as well. Though neither on opening weekend; I never see movies opening weekend anymore. Hell, I still didn't see The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers yet.

I don't understand all of this animosity towards a character who isn't even in the goddamn book! He's not supposed to be there or have any part to play.

For all you know, that shot is of him showing up looking like a vagabond, the White Council says he's not living up to the clean and tidy implications of the name and wizarding responsibility, and he goes PRESTO-CHANGE-O and makes himself look more presentable.

[Incanus 5,890]

I don't understand all of this animosity towards a character who isn't even in the goddamn book! He's not supposed to be there or have any part to play.

For all you know, that shot is of him showing up looking like a vagabond, the White Council says he's not living up to the clean and tidy implications of the name and wizarding responsibility, and he goes PRESTO-CHANGE-O and makes himself look more presentable.

Oh Radagast's character is fine, the way they chose to portray him is not. Plus he is supposed to be in the White Council when they drive The Necromancer from Dol Guldur. As you know it happened while Bilbo was gallivanting with the Dwarves through Mirkwood and shambling off to the Long Lake. At least according to PJ, who has the LotR Appendicitis.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

I'm excited to see Les Miserables on the big screen as well. Though neither on opening weekend; I never see movies opening weekend anymore. Hell, I still didn't see The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers yet.

I don't understand all of this animosity towards a character who isn't even in the goddamn book! He's not supposed to be there or have any part to play.

For all you know, that shot is of him showing up looking like a vagabond, the White Council says he's not living up to the clean and tidy implications of the name and wizarding responsibility, and he goes PRESTO-CHANGE-O and makes himself look more presentable.

Actually we're on vacation that weekend. It's Dave birthday and we're going to Branson to the Titanic show so we might not see either film that weekend.

[Wojo 2,458]

Well I hope you both have a lovely weekend!

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

LOTR's Mcguffin in Hobbit

The Ring is NOT a mcguffin.

[Once 1,082]

How is it not?

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

I think its too Important to be one?

"Usually the MacGuffin...declines in importance as the struggles and motivations of characters play out"

maybe I am wrong...

[Brónach 1,330]

In The Hobbit is more of a plot device than a McGiffin. It becomes a McGuffin in LOTR.

[Wojo 2,458]

For all its power, mystery, and danger, The One Ring in Lord of the Rings is really just a big, high stakes MacGuffin . Unlike most MacGuffins, it doesn’t drive a bunch of lowlifes to chase each other around dark alleyways looking for a quick buck, it actually is the only thing which can save the whole world. Still, scale isn’t important in the MacGuffin game. Everybody wants the Ring, everything happens when it appears, and every danger little Frodo and friends face is directly related to the fact that he’s got the Ring on a string around his neck. Sounds like a MacGuffin to me. There’s also the fact that there isn’t much evidence that the Ring is so powerful or dangerous, besides the fact the characters tell us there is. A lot. Sure, it makes people invisible and drives Gollum to the depths of addiction, but that doesn’t seem like enough to rule the world. The Ring is just a thing that everyone wants. And that’s a MacGuffin, through and through.

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-macguffins.php

[gkgyver 1,647]

The ring may be a McGuffin, but to me, the movies became less and less about the ring until the end of ROTK.

After all, Sauron nearly crushes the world of men without his precious, were it not for Frodo and Sam.

The story became Aragorn's by the middle of TTT for me.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Is radagast weird thing in his hair birdcrap or just an effect of illumination? it seemed to me as iced hair, with that bluish tint, but maybe its a reflection of some light.

Or it could be... OH MY GOD.

I think now i know why the weird hat...

God, it's a bird mating hat for collecting semen for artificial insemination!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Something about Radagast"...

At least according to PJ, who has the LotR Appendicitis.

In The Hobbit is more of a plot device than a McGiffin. It becomes a McGuffin in LOTR.

Just for the record, i said LOTR's mcguffin is the ring, and they happen to find it in the Hobbit. The main plot of the hobbit is not related.

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[Marian Schedenig 11,694]

I see nothing wrong with Radagast. He's always been the slightly eccentric loner among the wizards. He looks worried in the pic. I like it.

[alicebrallice 134]

http://apps.warnerbros.com/thehobbit/recipes/us/

might make myself an ori-omelette for breakfast tomorrow.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

obelix...

[chuck 155]

Menhir delivery!!!

[BLUMENKOHL 1,110]

Vegan corn stew sounds like it might be worth a shot!

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Eowyn's******* Vegan corn stew sounds like it might be worth a shot!

if it tastes like her porridge...i better rather not try it!

******* ANACRONISM!!!!! Eowyn has not yet born in the hobbit... how is that this dwarf has a recipe from her...

[Incanus 5,890]

Well of course there will be Middle Earth food related promotional material for Bombur, because he is you know...fat. And fat people didn't get to be fat all by themselves. They had to eat. And Bombur has eaten so much. Buahahahaaaaa.

And also in the social media/audience created content spirit of our times people can share their recipies. Wohoo! My Gollum's Spleen, Pancreas and Colon Pie will be a smash hit, I am sure of it!