MattyO 72 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Posted April 15, 2009 And let the unbridled hate for this score begin...
MissPadmé 17 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 And let the unbridled hate for this score begin...why do you say this? there are very good parts in it.. but you have to admit that these two 30 secs samples sound nothing special
Incanus 5,890 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Does A&D feature the same main character portrayed by Tom Hanks that he played in DVC? So wouldn't it be as appropriate then as, say, Williams re-using themes for the Indiana Jones franchise, or Barry re-using themes for the James Bond franchise? You've got unrelated stories operating within the same fictional universe, so it's not too big a stretch.I would say that using a theme for Robert Langdon (if there indeed is one) in the sequel would be totally logical. The little that can be judged from those short clips is that he also uses sections of the previous score that have to do with Teabing telling the story of Magdalene and he repeates the rip-off/homage to Theme of Thomas Tallis which while it is liturgical music makes an odd choice of musical continuity as the stories have none.And I am not trying to bash the score just pointing out some negative aspects from my point of view.I actually like some parts of the Da Vinci Code score and the sequel seems to have a bit too much bass heavy synth stuff to my liking but we will see.
MattyO 72 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Posted April 15, 2009 No, no, that's the same observation I made. These are only thirty second clips after all. I just hope this score isn't judged too harshly before it is even released, as tends to be the case with Zimmer's scores. Gee, I'm sounding like such a Zimmer fan!
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Damn, I was waiting for this score with anticipation, but what I hear doesn't appeal to me in any way. Okay, these are only the samples, but they show what the score will be like in general. Terrible... I like 160 BMP (despite it's Rock'ish feel) and Science and Religion. Black Smoke has some interesting bits too.
crocodile 9,724 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 So it seems A&D score is a variation on the DVC. Why didn't they use immidiate music from the library and add some drum loops to the cues from the previous film? I would have been cheaper and pretty much the same. As they stand, the clips (the action material in particular) sound like something you'd find in a theatrical trailer. With a violin on top. And did I mention I HATE generic trailer music?Karol - who doesn't care for this anymore.
MattyO 72 Posted April 15, 2009 Author Posted April 15, 2009 Cheer up chaps, there's still Star Trek and Wolverine to...maybe...look forward to.
MissPadmé 17 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 by the way... has the new theme (or one of the new themes) from the new Trek movie been discussed here?it sounds more than cheap...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBkA9g0Hf-I
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 by the way... has the new theme (or one of the new themes) from the new Trek movie been discussed here?it sounds more than cheap...I didn't really liked it either, but I strongly believe the whole score will be more than just ok.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 So it seems A&D score is a variation on the DVC. Why didn't they use immidiate music from the library and add some drum loops to the cues from the previous film? I would have been cheaper and pretty much the same. As they stand, the clips (the action material in particular) sound like something you'd find in a theatrical trailer. With a violin on top. And did I mention I HATE generic trailer music?Karol - who doesn't care for this anymore.You do realize this score isn't 100% synth?You are also forgetting that each track is like 6-7 minutes long. These are 30 second samples. One of them is 12 minutes, I forget which.
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 So it seems A&D score is a variation on the DVC. Why didn't they use immidiate music from the library and add some drum loops to the cues from the previous film? I would have been cheaper and pretty much the same. As they stand, the clips (the action material in particular) sound like something you'd find in a theatrical trailer. With a violin on top. And did I mention I HATE generic trailer music?Karol - who doesn't care for this anymore.You do realize this score isn't 100% synth?You are also forgetting that each track is like 6-7 minutes long. These are 30 second samples. One of them is 12 minutes, I forget which.Do you really believe they took the worst parts of the score and turned them into the samples, while the rest 5-6 minutes of each track is a real bliss?
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 It's like the sample for "Why So Serious?" It's not the Joker's Theme over and over for 6 minutes, it changes, varies. Honestly I wasn't too excited with what I heard. I heard "The Citrine Cross" in there, and a lot of Langdon's Theme, but I'm positive there is newer material in those long tracks, especially the 12 minute one.
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 It's like the sample for "Why So Serious?" It's not the Joker's Theme over and over for 6 minutes, it changes, varies. Honestly I wasn't too excited with what I heard. I heard "The Citrine Cross" in there, and a lot of Langdon's Theme, but I'm positive there is newer material in those long tracks, especially the 12 minute one.Actually, I really hoped Why so serious was going to develop this 2-note motif into something interesting, but it didn't. None of the TDK tracks, which I found disappointing after listening to a sample, improved enough for me after listening to the full version. On the other hand, both PotC AWE and DVC sounded really promising after the samples and eventually didn't fell short.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 If you are familiar enough with a composer you can get a good idea of what and where a score is going by listening to clips.
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 If you are familiar enough with a composer you can get a good idea of what and where a score is going by listening to clips.Yep. Whenever I am wrong, it's usually that the samples sound promising, but the score happens to be boring. Rarely it's the other way around.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 I actually like some parts of the Da Vinci Code score and the sequel seems to have a bit too much bass heavy synth stuff to my liking but we will see.It's a prequel, actually (unless they changed the order of events for the script). The DVC score has some cool bits, so I'm looking forward to hearing this (when I see the film).
MattyO 72 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 In the universe created with The Da Vinci Code film, Angels & Demons now takes place after the first film, so it is a sequel. I think either way it doesn't make any difference.
MattyO 72 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 *********************************************************************************NEW BSX RECORDS COMING THIS TUESDAY (04/21/2009)We invite you to drop by the site between 11:00am and 12:00pm this Tuesday, We'll be posting our newest titles.The first CD is the first complete release of this horror scorefrom the 1970's that has a bit of a bite too it.......The first hundred copies will be autographed by the composer.The other release is from a Recent TV project that the composer asked us to dig up for him...The first hundred copies will be autographed by the composer.Let the Guessing Begin!********************************************************************************************(From the FSM Messageboard)Any chance the 1970s complete horror score with bite is Dracula? Or is that too high profile for BSX?
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 I knew someone was going to post this. I think it's too high profile, plus I've never heard of Williams pre-signing CDs.
MattyO 72 Posted April 17, 2009 Author Posted April 17, 2009 My thoughts, exactly. Still, it doesn't hurt to dream.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 It might be Love At First Bite or perhaps Salem's Lot.
John Crichton 4 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 BSX usually posts spam threads whenever they have a release. I've never seen them have a really high profile release IIRC.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 They've done a few of what I would call hi-profile releases.But snce it's not John Williams most people here don't care.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Lifeforce - Henry ManciniThey've also done a few John Carpenter scores that have been highly requested by the film score community, they were responsible for the re-issue of the first two MOH scores.
John Crichton 4 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Ah, OK. I'd say it's time for a re-re issue for MOH, I'd love to get a pressed copy. For less than a couple of vital organs, at least.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 The first two MOH scores are easily attainable on CD. Frontline on the other hand, is still a whopping $60+ It's the only one I don't own on CD. I ordered the first one from BSX through Amazon and they gave me Underground free with it. I remember when they used to sell Frontline on their site for $20. Don't know why I let that one go.And the threads they post here aren't spam, just advertising. No different than Mark O. posting a thread about a new Intrada release.
Jarbas 1 Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Some sound clips from Giacchino's Star Trek: http://www.colosseum.de/product_info.php/i..._Star-Trek.html
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Some sound clips from Giacchino's Star Trek: http://www.colosseum.de/product_info.php/i..._Star-Trek.htmlAlready discussed in the Star Trek thread, but thanks for posting, anyway.
Neimoidian 15 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/up/main.html In the intro we listen to what I suppose is a snippet from Giacchino's Up score. Nice...
QMM 4 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 has there been any mention of a release for Up's score yet?
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 No release date has been announced yet, or at least none I could fine.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 Wow I didn't know Up was coming out so early, the film I mean: May 29. The score should be out on the 26th then. Good month for Giacchino fans. Then Land Of The Lost should be out on June 2nd. So 4 Giacchino scores within 1 month. Kick ass.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I'm suprised Disney doesn't have a pre-order listing yet.
Ollie 1,375 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 This year is rich with Giacchino. Me gusta. Mark, those two will probably be Varese anyway. Actually Up probably won't be. Never mind Yep Land Of The Lost in on Varese.http://www.varesesarabande.com/upcoming.asp
Jay 46,241 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Wow. So we have:Star Trek on May 5thLost Season 4 on May 12thLand of the Lost on June 6thAnd no word on UP yet, right?
King Mark 3,975 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 So Giacchino still has 3 reasons to prove he's the next John Williams , or the next David Arnold.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Giacchino became better than David Arnold when he composed his first score.
Trent B 354 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 That's ridiculous.Indeed it is ridiculous. Giacchino won't ever be as great as David Arnold. Giacchino won't compose a score as vast and great as Stargate, Independence Day and even Godzilla.
Richard P 5,302 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Wouldn't go that far Trent...Besides, talent can only be shown with the right material and a request for the right approach. And, I wouldn't want Arnold for a Pixar picture.Not as excited as some are, but I do like Star Trek (like, not love though) and Lost could be good, depending on how they've chosen material.
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 I think he's certainly showing the promise, but he's got a little way to go yet.He certainly has the most potential out of all the newbies. They still make me wish for the rise of Zombie Goldsmith, though.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Indeed it is ridiculous. Arnold won't ever be as great as Michael Giacchino. Arnold won't compose a score as vast and great as Medal Of Honor (all of them), Ratatouille, The Incredibles, Star Trek, Lost, and even The Family Stone.I agree.
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