Hans Zimmer's influence on himself

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I give up on trying to explain this because people just believe what they want to.

Yeah, I feel your pain. It's starting to become a habit on all film score related matters.

I know you're using that against me, but I agree.

[Ollie 1,375]

I give up on trying to explain this because people just believe what they want to.

Yeah, I feel your pain. It's starting to become a habit on all film score related matters.

I know you're using that against me, but I agree.

No I'm not. I'm being serious.

[Quintus 6,494]

I'm all for people having strong opinions and I find a person's utter resentment for something to be perfectly acceptable. First and foremost, I respect honesty far more than I do smarmy superciliousness, indeed - the latter I find rather snake-like.

At least Mark is honest.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I give up on trying to explain this because people just believe what they want to.

Yeah, I feel your pain. It's starting to become a habit on all film score related matters.

I know you're using that against me, but I agree.

No I'm not. I'm being serious.

Well either way, I agree.

[Xander Harris 9,673]

I'm giving this guy another chance. I'm listening to a "Very Best" of Hans Zimmer montage on YouTube. Just about all of it goes in one ear and out the other. The only score of his I ever enjoyed was The Lion King, which is still flawed. I would consider it good-okay. Not the usually "bleh" or horrible.

[gkgyver 1,647]

Honestly, I have read so many discussions on this topic, and every time - no, I mean EVERY time - I am amazed, shocked even, that some people honestly can't hear the blatant difference between stylistic similarity/ tasteful self-referencing a la Williams, and the constantly awful cut and paste jobs of Hans Zimmer.

And quite frankly, there is so little meat on Zimmer's musical bone that every regurgitation of his sticks out twice as much, like the straight re-use of "Chevaliers De Sangreal" in Dark Knight.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I'm giving this guy another chance. I'm listening to a "Very Best" of Hans Zimmer montage on YouTube. Just about all of it goes in one ear and out the other. The only score of his I ever enjoyed was The Lion King, which is still flawed. I would consider it good-okay. Not the usually "bleh" or horrible.

Well your problem there is that it's a best of compilation on YouTube. Frankly casual film music "fans" don't know shit, so my guess is that montage had all his popular action scores. If you want me to, I'll skim my collection and come up with a playlist for you.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

You shouldnt 'skim' anyone's works to find good pieces.

And definately, a collection of Williams most popular pieces is great music.

There is something there to think about

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I'm giving this guy another chance. I'm listening to a "Very Best" of Hans Zimmer montage on YouTube. Just about all of it goes in one ear and out the other. The only score of his I ever enjoyed was The Lion King, which is still flawed. I would consider it good-okay. Not the usually "bleh" or horrible.

Well your problem there is that it's a best of compilation on YouTube. Frankly casual film music "fans" don't know shit, so my guess is that montage had all his popular action scores. If you want me to, I'll skim my collection and come up with a playlist for you.

I'd actually like you to do this. I'd be interested in seeing if there is more down there besides the usual.

[STORM 1]

I Agree most composers do that copy themselves,they have done since 17 hundreds.I explained that to a friend of mine about 5 times,still not sure if he completly understands thou

[Koray Savas 2,260]

You shouldnt 'skim' anyone's works to find good pieces.

Well I already know Zimmer's music like the back of my hand. I meant I'd go through my personal favorites and pick out the best cues that represent the score as a whole.

I'm giving this guy another chance. I'm listening to a "Very Best" of Hans Zimmer montage on YouTube. Just about all of it goes in one ear and out the other. The only score of his I ever enjoyed was The Lion King, which is still flawed. I would consider it good-okay. Not the usually "bleh" or horrible.

Well your problem there is that it's a best of compilation on YouTube. Frankly casual film music "fans" don't know shit, so my guess is that montage had all his popular action scores. If you want me to, I'll skim my collection and come up with a playlist for you.

I'd actually like you to do this. I'd be interested in seeing if there is more down there besides the usual.

You got it.

Edit #1: Okay so I got a rough playlist. The bad part is that it's 90 tracks and about 9 hours long. Since I don't think anyone here would be willing to sit through 9 hours of Hans, what do the people who are interested suggest I remove? I didn't include most of his popular scores, but added some action tracks for variation and to show versatility. It's hard to cut down since most of his albums consist of 10+ minute tracks.

Edit #2: Made some cuts. 77 tracks totaling 7 hours. I'll keep this as a final version because it really is a representative of a large portion of his work. For those who have already heard some of the cues chosen, you can obviously just skip those.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

Is there supposed to be a list? Because I'm not seeing anything. And surely you can cut it down to about 2 hours at most?

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Edit #1: Okay so I got a rough playlist. The bad part is that it's 90 tracks and about 9 hours long. Since I don't think anyone here would be willing to sit through 9 hours of Hans, what do the people who are interested suggest I remove? I didn't include most of his popular scores, but added some action tracks for variation and to show versatility. It's hard to cut down since most of his albums consist of 10+ minute tracks.

Edit #2: Made some cuts. 77 tracks totaling 7 hours. I'll keep this as a final version because it really is a representative of a large portion of his work. For those who have already heard some of the cues chosen, you can obviously just skip those.

I dont want to commit suicide, thanks

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Is there supposed to be a list? Because I'm not seeing anything. And surely you can cut it down to about 2 hours at most?

Well it'd be a long list. I was going to sorta take requests and then actually send all the the music to whoever was interested. 2 hours would be tough because, like I said, a lot of the cues are roughly 10 minutes long.

[Quintus 6,494]

"Patricide" should be on there.

Thelma and Louise has some great stuff too; though it's not a traditional orchestral score so may not be to everyones taste.

Lee - who has been completely indifferent to Zimmer since his magnum opus Gladiator.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Is there supposed to be a list? Because I'm not seeing anything. And surely you can cut it down to about 2 hours at most?

Well it'd be a long list. I was going to sorta take requests and then actually send all the the music to whoever was interested. 2 hours would be tough because, like I said, a lot of the cues are roughly 10 minutes long.

I am interested, and seven hours sounds cool.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

"Patricide" should be on there.

Thelma and Louise has some great stuff too; though it's not a traditional orchestral score so may not be to everyones taste.

Lee - who has been completely indifferent to Zimmer since his magnum opus Gladiator.

I didn't include any of his really famous scores. So no Gladiator, Batman, Pirates, The Rock, Crimson Tide, Broken Arrow, etc. Mainly all the 90s actions scores, since that's all people seem to judge him by.

Is there supposed to be a list? Because I'm not seeing anything. And surely you can cut it down to about 2 hours at most?

Well it'd be a long list. I was going to sorta take requests and then actually send all the the music to whoever was interested. 2 hours would be tough because, like I said, a lot of the cues are roughly 10 minutes long.

I am interested, and seven hours sounds cool.

Here's the list:

I'll upload it for you soon, Charlie.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

Thanks, man.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Playlist is uploaded and ready to go, if you'd like the link, PM me.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

By and large, I would agree with the "anti" comments posted, but the fact remains that Zimmer's music connects with an awful lot of people. 10-12 million copise of both Gladiator c.d.s sold must tell you something, despite his reliance on both Holst, and Wagner. Maybe "the great unwashed" know nothing about film music, but, at the very least, they help to raise its profile, and that can be no bad thing.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

It has a price though, nowadays the majority of the scores have a Remote control 'stench' over them.

[Quintus 6,494]

Indeed they do, but I blame the money men for that; not Zimmer. He's become an easy scapegoat for the bitter followers of a dying tradition.

[filmmusic 3,269]

Just listened to "Time" from the Inception OST.

Reminded me a lot of "Journey to the line" from Thin Red Line ost.

[gkgyver 1,647]

By and large, I would agree with the "anti" comments posted, but the fact remains that Zimmer's music connects with an awful lot of people. 10-12 million copise of both Gladiator c.d.s sold must tell you something,

Yes, that people's ears are full of a four-letter word.

Maybe "the great unwashed" know nothing about film music, but, at the very least, they help to raise its profile, and that can be no bad thing.

Let me think ... these people know nothing about film music, but since they admire Hans Zimmer, their attention is drawn to other film music, which prompts large masses to call it inferior to Hans Zimmer. Why? See the statement above.

Surely, not a bad thing.

[Quintus 6,494]

What a coincidence: I think your mouth is full of four-letter word too, you arrogant plonker.

[Charlie Brigden 7]

I think it's time to see what the octopus thinks of Hans.

[Ollie 1,375]

The Spanish will defeat him.

[Demondm810 473]

how much did Zimmer really have to do with Panda?? Sounds all Powell to me.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

He co-composed it, hence Music by Hans Zimmer and John Powell. It's almost a perfect hybrid of their styles. Definitely doesn't sound all Powell.

[Demondm810 473]

I guess because it's so melodic, I tend to give Powell the credit. Kung Fu Panda is one of my favorites of the last couple years though. Although I'm seriously digging Inception.

[Quintus 6,494]

The Spanish will defeat him.

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!

[Wojo 2,458]

I like you Spaniard. I shall cheer for you.

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Indeed they do, but I blame the money men for that; not Zimmer.

Defintaly. That is not his fault. It's Buckheimer and their 'kind'.

[Romão 2,473]

Zimmer has quite a studio

[Quintus 6,494]

Looks like Koray's bedroom.

[Ollie 1,375]

[Luke Skywalker 2,383]

Looks CGI.

Did Kaminski take the photograph?

[fommes 165]

I like you Spaniard. I shall cheer for you.

Why? What have the Spaniards ever done for us?

[Datameister 2,586]

Looks CGI.

Did Kaminski take the photograph?

I'll bet you anything it's an example of HDR, a photographic technique intended to expand the "dynamic range" of the medium, so that you can see more detail in the shadows and highlights. Unfortunately, except for when it's used tastefully in the right conditions, it tends to induce vomiting by creating images that look like...well, that. (Or worse. Often a LOT worse.)

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Looks like Koray's bedroom.

[BLUMENKOHL 1,110]

Oh my god, did that photographer use HDR in a neo-rococo ground zero? Whyyyyyy?! Whhhy?!

[Datameister 2,586]

I'm not following...

[Romão 2,473]

"HDR photography (High Dynamic Range imaging that adjusts the contrast of shots to achieve the full spectrum of light and color perceived by the human eye, often resulting eerily hyper-real effects.)"

[Datameister 2,586]

Correct...

[Xander Harris 9,673]

So Zimmer lives in Whipstaff Manor.

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

There is nothing wrong with the photo.

[Datameister 2,586]

HDR was unnecessary, even detrimental to my ability to stomach the photo.

[Romão 2,473]

Still, that looks like one hell of a great place to work in

[BurgaFlippinMan 7]

HDR was unnecessary, even detrimental to my ability to stomach the photo.

It gives it a certain feel which was probably intended. I like it, as a photographer and as someone who has assisted in a top studio specializing in architecture and interior photography.

[Datameister 2,586]

No doubt the effect was intended. I dunno, maybe there's just something wrong with my eyes...even though I love the idea of HDR, most of the time the results just look horrific to me in practice.