The Adventures of Tintin vs. War Horse

[Josh500 1,620]

I still don't know which score/movie is more popular around here...

Now, that we all know both scores/movies pretty well, let's find out!

This is surprisingly hard, I've found, but I voted:

Score: Tintin

Movie: War Horse

[Jilal 681]

The same goes for me Josh:

Score: Tintin

Film: War Horse

[indy4 160]

War Horse on both accounts.

[Josh500 1,620]

I still remember as if it were yesterday:

When the first Tintin samples became available on that German site, I listened to them, and I was absolutely blown away. And in a way, I still am. After KotCS, to be perfectly honest, my expectations weren't that high (so maybe that helped), but still, JW surprised me in a big way then...

With War Horse, while still a fantastic score, of course, this is pretty much what I expected.

[indy4 160]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

[Josh500 1,620]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

So you don't like the action cues from Harry Potter and Indiana Jones, either?

Not that I am saying Tintin is on the same level as those scores, but cues like "The Quidditch Match," "The Mine Cart Chase," "Belly the Steel Beast," "Streets of Shanghai" etc. are surely as much of a "jerky ride" as "Pursuit of the Falcon"...

[Brónach 1,330]

I still haven't seen War Horse.

[indy4 160]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

So you don't like the action cues from Harry Potter and Indiana Jones, either?

Not that I am saying Tintin is on the same level as those scores, but cues like "The Quidditch Match," "The Mine Cart Chase," "Belly the Steel Beast," "Streets of Shanghai" etc. are surely as much of a "jerky ride" as "Pursuit of the Falcon"...

No, Tintin is much more jerky. Some cues from Temple of Doom come close (that's why the action music from ToD is my least favorite action music in the Indy series), but Tintin's action is worse (again, with the exception of a few cues).

[Josh500 1,620]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

So you don't like the action cues from Harry Potter and Indiana Jones, either?

Not that I am saying Tintin is on the same level as those scores, but cues like "The Quidditch Match," "The Mine Cart Chase," "Belly the Steel Beast," "Streets of Shanghai" etc. are surely as much of a "jerky ride" as "Pursuit of the Falcon"...

No, Tintin is much more jerky. Some cues from Temple of Doom come close (that's why the action music from ToD is my least favorite action music in the Indy series), but Tintin's action is worse (again, with the exception of a few cues).

Oh, when you say "jerky" you actually mean "bad"!

Well, you may like or dislike the music, that's your call, but it doesn't exist all by itself! The music fits the action onscreen perfectly, IMO. The music needs to be "jerky" here... just as some of the action cues in ToD needed to be!

[indy4 160]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

So you don't like the action cues from Harry Potter and Indiana Jones, either?

Not that I am saying Tintin is on the same level as those scores, but cues like "The Quidditch Match," "The Mine Cart Chase," "Belly the Steel Beast," "Streets of Shanghai" etc. are surely as much of a "jerky ride" as "Pursuit of the Falcon"...

No, Tintin is much more jerky. Some cues from Temple of Doom come close (that's why the action music from ToD is my least favorite action music in the Indy series), but Tintin's action is worse (again, with the exception of a few cues).

Oh, when you say "jerky" you actually mean "bad"!

Well, you may like or dislike the music, that's your call, but it doesn't exist all by itself! The music fits the action onscreen perfectly, IMO. The music needs to be "jerky" here... just as some of the action cues in ToD needed to be!

No, when I say jerky I mean jerky. I happened to think that a cue that is too jerky diminishes the effect (I don't think any of the cues we're talking about are "bad") and I like it less.

You're right, perhaps the only way to match the on screen action would be to adopt this jerky style, but I don't really care how well the music fits the film. I care how it works as music outside of the film.

[Josh500 1,620]

Tintin is a little too jerky of a ride for me. It works wonderfully in some cues, like "Adventure Continues" or "Adventures of Tintin," but it's just really hard for me to get into cues like "Pursuit of the Falcon," etc.

So you don't like the action cues from Harry Potter and Indiana Jones, either?

Not that I am saying Tintin is on the same level as those scores, but cues like "The Quidditch Match," "The Mine Cart Chase," "Belly the Steel Beast," "Streets of Shanghai" etc. are surely as much of a "jerky ride" as "Pursuit of the Falcon"...

No, Tintin is much more jerky. Some cues from Temple of Doom come close (that's why the action music from ToD is my least favorite action music in the Indy series), but Tintin's action is worse (again, with the exception of a few cues).

Oh, when you say "jerky" you actually mean "bad"!

Well, you may like or dislike the music, that's your call, but it doesn't exist all by itself! The music fits the action onscreen perfectly, IMO. The music needs to be "jerky" here... just as some of the action cues in ToD needed to be!

No, when I say jerky I mean jerky. I happened to think that a cue that is too jerky diminishes the effect (I don't think any of the cues we're talking about are "bad") and I like it less.

You're right, perhaps the only way to match the on screen action would be to adopt this jerky style, but I don't really care how well the music fits the film. I care how it works as music outside of the film.

Well, then you don't like "jerky scenes"!

You have to consider that JW needed to musically accompany scenes where Tintin goes motorcycling all over the place, up and down stairs, into dilapidated buildings, etc. in pursuit of a falcon! Also in ToD, a breakneck chase through Shanghai, a ride down a mountain slope, a mine cart chase, etc. etc. are apt to be a bit "jerky"...

[indy4 160]

You have to consider that JW needed to musically accompany scenes where Tintin goes motorcycling all over the place, up and down stairs, into dilapidated buildings, etc. in pursuit of a falcon! Also in ToD, a breakneck chase through Shanghai, a ride down a mountain slope, a mine cart chase, etc. etc. are apt to be a bit "jerky"...

I agree, but like I said I don't really care about how the music functions in the film. I care about how it functions as music, outside of the film.

And again, I don't mind jerkiness--you couldn't be a fan of the modern JW without enjoying it to some extent--but some cues from Tintin take it a bit too far. When there's so many unrelated ideas being thrown at you, it's hard for the cues to gain the momentum needed to emotionally excite me.

[Josh500 1,620]

You have to consider that JW needed to musically accompany scenes where Tintin goes motorcycling all over the place, up and down stairs, into dilapidated buildings, etc. in pursuit of a falcon! Also in ToD, a breakneck chase through Shanghai, a ride down a mountain slope, a mine cart chase, etc. etc. are apt to be a bit "jerky"...

I agree, but like I said I don't really care about how the music functions in the film. I care about how it functions as music, outside of the film.

And again, I don't mind jerkiness--you couldn't be a fan of the modern JW without enjoying it--but some cues from Tintin take it a bit too far. When there's so many unrelated ideas being thrown at you, it's hard for the cues to gain the momentum needed to emotionally excite me.

I understand what you are saying, but I couldn't disagree with you more. For 2 reasons: 1. I don't find JW's action cues in Tintin that jerky (perhaps a little, but in a good way rather than in a way that distracts,) and 2. the music does fit the scenes very well, and that's what's counts a LOT for me.

But what you are saying is, basically: 1. You don't like "jerky music" and 2. it doesn't matter whether it fits the scenes it was written for or not, because you only consider music outside the context of the film.

[indy4 160]

But what you are saying is, basically: 1. You don't like "jerky music"

Again, that's not true. I like it to a certain extent, as long as it still allows for emotional momentum. But in Tintin that's not the case, at least not for me.

and 2. it doesn't matter whether it fits the scenes it was written for or not, because you only consider music outside the context of the film.

That's partially true. I look at how well the score tells the story on it's own, and how enjoyable emotionally it is without the film.

[Datameister 2,586]

Still War Horse the score and Tintin the film for me. Although...I must admit that I've listened to Tintin a lot more than I've listened to War Horse, and whereas I feel exactly the same about War Horse as I did the first time I heard it, Tintin is a LOT more enjoyable to me than it used to be.

[Muad'Dib 2,059]

Personally, I can't choose movie or score. Today I'll say that I prefer Tintin because I'm feeling in a more fun or "adventurerous" mood, but tomorrow I might say War Horse because I'm feeling more reflective or nostalgic... It's a pair of scores and movies so different that's impossible for me to say that I like one or another better.

However, I can say that I've been watching and listening to Tintin much more than War Horse. I don't know exactly why, but it just does...

Tintin (in my opinion) works much better in the context of the film, while War Horse works excellent both in the film version and as stand-alone listen...

So... There it is.

Hammond: There it is.

[hornist 1,261]

I have to admit that the War Horse on a big screen was surprisingly fabulous experience. Saw it before on computer screen and

was little bit disappointed. Great old fashioned film making which I like.Plus astounding music of course.

Can't vote. Such a different genre.

[Josh500 1,620]

You don't have to compare the two different genres.

Just consider which score you personally enjoy listening to more...

But either way, seems like WH is the more popular choice around here, although people seem to listen to it less often...

[Charlie Brigden 7]

WH. I've listened to Tintin twice and enjoyed it neither times. Have listened to WH a few times and loved it.

Haven't seen WH the film but enjoyed Tintin a lot.

[Josh500 1,620]

I wonder why some of you (Charlie, Chaac) haven't seen WH yet.

Aren't you curious or interested?

[Charlie Brigden 7]

With two children I don't get the chance to go to the cinema often, so I tend to wait for blu-ray. Unless I positively have to see the film at the cinema or we get a rare occasion where our babysitter can take both kids, we wait. Luckily WH is on blu-ray next month.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

Nothing motivates me to see this, so far.

[alicebrallice 134]

I haven't seen WH yet. from what I've heard it's quite sad, so I'd much rather watch it with someone else, but I haven't convinced anyone who hasn't seen it to watch it with me... boring bastards.

but score-wise, WH is way better. unlike tintin, every single cue is interesting.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

War Horse on both counts, but that's not anything against Tin Tin which I like too. I will actually be watching both films this afternooon.

[Brónach 1,330]

I wonder why some of you (Charlie, Chaac) haven't seen WH yet.

Aren't you curious or interested?

I am, I had promised myself to see all Spielbergs from now on at the cinema (I've only seen three there), but when I went to see it they had taken out all the showings in English. And I have this weird anti-dubbing crusade of mine.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

It's not weird. Dubbing is a gruesome!

[Quintus 6,494]

Still haven't seen War Horse. I have it, but can't be bothered just yet.

[crocodile 9,724]

I voted for Tin Tin - the movie and War Horse - the score.WH wins in the second category simply because it's a much better listen outside of the film.

Karol

[Josh500 1,620]

I am, I had promised myself to see all Spielbergs from now on at the cinema (I've only seen three there)...

Same here.

I don't go to the movies very often these days, but I need to see every JW-scored movie (and Spielberg directed movie) at the theater. It's almost a compulsion.

I haven't seen WH yet. from what I've heard it's quite sad, so I'd much rather watch it with someone else, but I haven't convinced anyone who hasn't seen it to watch it with me... boring bastards.

I'd go with you!

but score-wise, WH is way better. unlike tintin, every single cue is interesting.

Actually I think every cue in Tintin is interesting too, but in a more cartoonish way. As well it should be!

[KK 3,313]

I liked the War Horse score just a hair more than Tintin, but I love both scores. As for film, Tintin was a far more enjoyable film for me despite the merits of WH.

[Wojo 2,458]

I vote Cowabunga to both, even though I technically cannot.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

I vote Cowabunga to both, even though I technically cannot.

Actually, you can double a Cowabunga, but only if your previous one was not.

[alicebrallice 134]

I just saw WH...

:crymore:

damn ninjas cutting onions...

[hornist 1,261]

Some tears? I was like Niagara falls...

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

What happened to Nordic stoicism. First Breivic was crying openly in court, now you guys....

[alicebrallice 134]

Some tears? I was like Niagara falls...

awwww!

haha, let's just say I barely had to wash off my make up before I went to bed.

[Josh500 1,620]

Some tears? I was like Niagara falls...

awwww!

haha, let's just say I barely had to wash off my make up before I went to bed.

So did watching the movie enhance your enjoyment of the score even more?

Some tears? I was like Niagara falls...

Really? :lol

It was a sad movie, sure, but I didn't shed any tears myself...

[Incanus 5,890]

I am really on the fence with choosing the better score since both exhilarate and move in different ways. War Horse is emotional and dramatic but Tintin is thrilling and adventurous. In the end perhaps by tiny fraction of difference War Horse holds the upper hand. But only by tiny speck of a fraction.

And I enjoyed the Tintin movie a bit more than War Horse which I found to be a bit too episodic.

[alicebrallice 134]

So did watching the movie enhance your enjoyment of the score even more?

oh, absolutely. I actually used to hate listening to a score before having seen the movie... nowadays it's the other way round.

Learning the Call

[Josh500 1,620]

Learning the Call

You mean this? Yeah, a very well-scored (though small) scene!

I am really on the fence with choosing the better score since both exhilarate and move in different ways. War Horse is emotional and dramatic but Tintin is thrilling and adventurous. In the end perhaps by tiny fraction of difference War Horse holds the upper hand. But only by tiny speck of a fraction.

For me, Tintin holds the upper hand . . . but only by a tiny speck of a fraction!

[indy4 160]

In celebration of War Horse's DVD release, my analysis of the score has been published on the latest issue of FSM Online.

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/fsmonline/main.cfm?issueID=87

For those interested, my analysis of the score to Tintin is available in the January issue.

[Josh500 1,620]

In celebration of War Horse's DVD release, my analysis of the score has been published on the latest issue of FSM Online.

http://www.filmscore....cfm?issueID=87

For those interested, my analysis of the score to Tintin is available in the January issue.

Great!

____________

Wow, the score to War Horse beat Tintin by 2:1!

I gotta admit, I still don't know War Horse as well as I know Tintin. Sure, some tracks are gorgeous "Dartmoor," "Plowing," "The Reunion," and "Homecoming", but the rest?

Hmmmm. To me, it still seems like overall Tintin is a more varied and interesting listen. At least, for now.

[KK 3,313]

I'm more surprised that War Horse beat Tintin in terms of the film. Tintin was clearly the better film in my eyes.

Both scores were really neck in neck for me. Its just the varied musical faces of War Horse gives it an advantage (the English countryside beauty, the dense cold war action and the sorrowful moments of redemption). War Horse really wins because of its beauty for me. Tintin is extremely close though. Hard to pick between the two.

[Josh500 1,620]

Both scores were really neck in neck for me. Its just the varied musical faces of War Horse gives it an advantage (the English countryside beauty, the dense cold war action and the sorrowful moments of redemption). War Horse really wins because of its beauty for me. Tintin is extremely close though. Hard to pick between the two.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I feel exactly the same way, only I give Tintin the very slight edge.

"War Horse" is a stunningly gorgeous score, no question, but it does get to be a bit repetitive, IMO.

[Jay 46,241]

War Horse is the better score.  Tintin is the better movie.

 

Easily.

[rough cut 1,786]

I think I'm seeing in threes. I think I'm seeing in threes. I think I'm seeing in threes. 

[Wojo 2,458]

I've never seen Tintin.