stewdog1 50 Posted January 23, 2003 Posted January 23, 2003 I can't wait. I don't know where I'm going to get the money. I highly desire these things.Who here is going to buy all 7 seasons? With DS9 it is really hard to buy only one or two seasons because of the continuous story lines. It is more rewarding to me to have the complete series.Dave - who is going to somehow force his wife to watch it this time around.
ST-321 42 Posted January 24, 2003 Posted January 24, 2003 There are a great many episodes of DS9 that I never saw. I'm not sure my wallet is up for a full 7 seasons however. Will these be priced about the same as the TNG DVD's?How often do they come out?
stewdog1 50 Posted January 24, 2003 Author Posted January 24, 2003 Yes, unfortunately they will be priced the same as TNG. And they will be coming out every two months or so. All seven seasons will be out by the end of the year. At least here in the U.S.
Wojo 2,458 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 I'd like to clarify my "Yes" vote, I meant "Yes eventually."As a college student, even without a car, I barely have the money needed to make ends meet as they are, so slapping $700 worth of DVDs, albeit $700 worth of phenomenal DVDs, is a bit extreme at this point. I've seen most of DS9 already, but hardly in the proper order.I just wish some station got its act together and made an initiative to air DS9 with the same love that TNN gave TNG, because more or less, DS9 is a much better and more fullfilling Star Trek experience, the last of the Trek juggernauts.
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Yes yes yes! (That should be a separate option )On TV, I can only see the German dubs here. Also, I still haven't seen the final season. Add to that that DS9 might be the best thing that ever happened on TV - I don't know how, but I'll have to buy them all.Marian - who doesn't have a single TNG or TOS DVD yet though. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Lurker 5 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Nope. I already have the original series on DVD and the animateds on laser disc. That's all I need.Neil
ST-321 42 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Marian - who doesn't have a single TNG or TOS DVD yet though.Stay away from TOS on DVD. 2 episodes per DVD is evil and too $$$ until they rerelease it properly.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Are you going to buy all 7 seasons of DS9 on DVD?Season 1, noSeason 2, noSeason 3, noSeason 4, noSeason 5, no Season 6, noSeason 7, no
stewdog1 50 Posted January 25, 2003 Author Posted January 25, 2003 Are you going to buy all 7 seasons of DS9 on DVD?Season  1,  noSeason  2,  noSeason  3,  noSeason  4,  noSeason  5,  no  Season  6,  noSeason  7,  no7 "no's" should equal a yes. So congrats Tharp! You're about to purchase DS9!!! Woo Hoo!
Morn 8 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 As a college student, even without a car, I barely have the money needed to make ends meet as they are, so slapping $700 worth of DVDs, albeit $700 worth of phenomenal DVDs, is a bit extreme at this point. I've seen most of DS9 already, but hardly in the proper order.I have a similar problem, so I am going to rent them and convert to SVCD. Nope. I already have the original series on DVD and the animateds on laser disc. That's all I need. Fucking purists. :roll:
Lurker 5 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 Fucking purists. :roll:That was uncalled for.And if you mean by purist, one who enjoys original interesting stories with interesting characters told well, then yes, I'm a purist.Neil
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 But DS9 *is* original (as far as I can tell), has VERY interesting stories and VERY interesting characters!Marian -
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted January 25, 2003 Posted January 25, 2003 I don't believe Neil ever watched an episode beyond season one, when the show was not nearly as good as it would become.I disagree with Morn's statement, but do think Neil should give DS9 a chance.Stefancos- who thinks Morn should be
Morn 8 Posted January 26, 2003 Posted January 26, 2003 Sorry, but I can only withstand purism for so long.
Lurker 5 Posted January 26, 2003 Posted January 26, 2003 Sorry, but I can only withstand purism for so long. Â Nice to see that you are tolerant of other peoples beliefs. :roll: Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted January 27, 2003 Posted January 27, 2003 Nice to see that you are tolerant of other peoples beliefs. Â :roll: Â NeilIndeed, Morn is more like Chrusher as he would like to believe.Stefancos-
Morn 8 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 I don't respect such a view that degrades exceptional quality for no reason other than it not being first. I hope Neil has good reasons.
Lurker 5 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 It has nothing to do with what came first. I prefer the original Trek because it excites me. It's well done, to me. DS9 seemed to me to be going back to the well one too many times. I really enjoy TNG, but I can't justify buying the season sets (unless I could find them for $3 like Joe did with LOTR).Neil - who really doesn't have to justify anything to Morn
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 Neil, could you please explain further what you ment with that "going back to the well" comment?and you do not have to justify anytghing to Morn, nor be, but I am curious.Stefancos- who might even re-instate Neil as a Trekkie.
Lurker 5 Posted January 28, 2003 Posted January 28, 2003 I guess "going to the well" is an American expression. It means attempting to get something good out of the same material again. For instance, Rick Berman has not done anything else ever since he got the Star Trek gig and all he keeps doing is making new series after new series. He keeps hoping that somehow he'll have the same success with a new series that TNG had. So far, that hasn't happened. But he keeps going back and trying.Neil
stewdog1 50 Posted January 29, 2003 Author Posted January 29, 2003 Neil,Of all the Star Trek shows, DS9 is the ONLY one that did not go back to the well. That is why it was better than any other ST show period. That is also what made it one the finest TV shows ever produced.
Morn 8 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 Voy and Enteprise are the ones that 'go back to the well'. DS9 was quite different from TNG and TOS.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted January 29, 2003 Posted January 29, 2003 Stefan, "going back to the well" is a comment Rick Berman used several months ago in a issue of Communicator Star Trek: The MAgazine.I thought you were a Trekkie? Stefancos- who still owes me 3 cds. 8O
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 Well, i can't remember Clasic trek ever having something like The Domonion wars, or story arcs thaty develop and expand over a course of the entire series.As for Star Trek fanzines, I don'r read them, why should I.Stefancos- who owes Justin 3 Cd's, but since Justin isn't ASKING for anything he cannot settle the debt. :roll:
Lurker 5 Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 Well, i can't remember Clasic trek ever having something like The Domonion wars, or story arcs thaty develop and expand over a course of the entire series.And I can't remember DS9 having a story as well told as "The City on the Edge of Forever".We can play this game all day.Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted January 30, 2003 Posted January 30, 2003 Far Beyond The stars comes VERY close.Seriously, how much did you see of DS9 anyway?Stefancos- :?
stewdog1 50 Posted January 31, 2003 Author Posted January 31, 2003 Far Beyond The stars comes VERY close.Seriously, how much did you see of DS9 anyway?Stefancos- Â :?Apparently not much.
Morn 8 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 Well, i can't remember Clasic trek ever having something like The Domonion wars, or story arcs thaty develop and expand over a course of the entire series.And I can't remember DS9 having a story as well told as "The City on the Edge of Forever".We can play this game all day.NeilPlusDuetRaptureIn the Pale Moonlight
Lurker 5 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 Seriously, how much did you see of DS9 anyway?How much do I have to watch before I become numb to it's effect? By saying "how much did you watch" you're only validating that DS9 is a lousy show. I don't have the patienece to invest in a program that supposedly "gets good". If a book has 41 lousy chapters, but a great epilogue, do I really want to read it?Neil
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 Actually Neil, its not a lousy show, its superior tv. The first two seasons it was finding its legs. Once it found them the show became a dynamic show, with groundbreaking storylines, brilliant effects that compliment the story, and ensemble acting that is first rate. The show ended on such a highlight. It arc'd brilliantly raising the bar, that Voyager and Enterprise couldn't match, though on occasions Voyager soared as well.Its more like a 7 chapter book where the first two are shakey, but still worthwhile.and finally Deep Space 9 has something Star Wars prequels don't. Actual space battles. In fact the greatest space battles in cinematic or television history are on DS9. NOTHING COMES CLOSE.
Morn 8 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 Actually, I thought that Season 1 and 2 were very good, just not as good as later seasons. Better than anything Voyager and Enterprise have to offer.How much do I have to watch before I become numb to it's effect? By saying "how much did you watch" you're only validating that DS9 is a lousy show. I don't have the patienece to invest in a program that supposedly "gets good". If a book has 41 lousy chapters, but a great epilogue, do I really want to read it? Ds9 has no 'lousy chapters' But it does get better and the other seasons might be more to your taste.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 And I can't remember DS9 having a story as well told as "The City on the Edge of Forever".We can play this game all day.NeilNeil, few television shows have an episode as good as City on the Edge of Forever, but DS9 did have one that came awfully close, just as TNG came close.unfortunately DS9 will forever remain disrespected, not for what it was, but what it wasn't.To bad, it needs a followup to bring some closure.
Marian Schedenig 11,695 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 When I first watched DS9, I was a bit disappointed, but kept watching. Then after two seasons or so, they stopped it (because that was all that was available in German at that time), and after half a year, I suddenly found myself really missing it. When they showed it again, it ran basically all the way through except for the final season. This time I enjoyed most of it, there's just so much depth, all you have to do is get used to the fact that it's different (which is a good thing).More importantly though, there was a certain point after a few seasons, I think when the Dominion war really started. From that point on until the final episode of the penultimate season (still haven't seen the last one), there was not a single bad episode. In fact, there were only two or three below-average episodes, and the rest varied from very good to absolutely fantastic.Marian - hardly able to wait for the DVDs.
Morn 8 Posted January 31, 2003 Posted January 31, 2003 While City on the Edge of Forever might be a brilliant episode, I don't think it's the very best of the best. 8O Just another love story where one can't stop the person they love from dieing, very well told though with a new spin on it.
tharpdevenport 4 Posted February 1, 2003 Posted February 1, 2003 Stefan! Why read them? For the wonderful articles, the indepth techincal blueprints, CGI renderings of ships like the Prometheus.Intersting facts.The questions and answers page in the back that last month talked about a deleted Nemesis scene and had art work for it. And i remember a rather recent one that gave one hell of an explination for the Klingons looking like they did in ST:3 in Enterrpise and not the way they did in ST: TOS.It's great stuff. Plus the feel of paper in your hands. It feels better and has less wear on your eyes, than going to the web site, which doesn't show everything the magazine had anyway.Stefan- who should e-mail an up dated copy of his list.
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2003 Posted February 1, 2003 Stefancos- who owes Justin 3 Cd's, but since Justin isn't ASKING for anything he cannot settle the debt.Hey if I knew that was the arangement I would have mentioned something weeks ago. Justin -Who didn't realize he was doing a trade with Steef.
Justin 2 Posted February 1, 2003 Posted February 1, 2003 Anyway back to the topic, I haven't seen any episodes except for maybe 20 mintues at my uncles house a few years ago.Justin -Who has the DS9 game The Fallen. That counts for something.
stewdog1 50 Posted February 2, 2003 Author Posted February 2, 2003 Anyway back to the topic, I haven't seen any episodes except for maybe 20 mintues at my uncles house a few years ago.Justin -Who has the DS9 game The Fallen. That counts for something. Justin,Having that game does account for something. Now do something special for yourself and order those DVDs. You'll thank me later.
Lurker 5 Posted February 2, 2003 Posted February 2, 2003 You'll thank me later.Yeah, after you dump the whole lot on some poor unsuspecting slob on half.com and get some of your money back. Neil
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,388 Posted February 2, 2003 Posted February 2, 2003 I don't have the patienece to invest in a program that supposedly "gets good". Â NeilTNG's first season was horrible, season 2 only marginally better, yet you did have patience for those.Remember, all good things come to those who wait.Stefancos-
Morn 8 Posted February 3, 2003 Posted February 3, 2003 Bah, my motto is time waits for me. Besides, I quite liked TNG season 1 and 2. And I LOVE the seasons after 3.
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