Ricard 2,671 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Oops, I just read in the liner notes that the cue "differs dramatically from what was eventually used in the film". I'm wondering why that cue hasn't been included on the new cd :?
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 The original CD lists that cue as "Original Version". If that's the case, it's probably the same version as Track 14 Death On The Carousel (2:30), available on Disc One of the new set Heh, that's what I thought as well.Oops, I just read in the liner notes that the cue "differs dramatically from what was eventually used in the film".Hmm...the two cues ARE dramatically different, so if one of them is on the first CD and the other on the second CD, wouldn't that be a correct description?Marian - who likes the organ cue more.
Ricard 2,671 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Hmm...the two cues ARE dramatically different, so if one of them is on the first CD and the other on the second CD, wouldn't that be a correct description?.But Marian, there are THREE versions of "Death on the Carousel":- Original Version (CD1 track 14 of the new CD set: Death On The Carousel (2:30))- Original Album Version (CD2 track 8 of the new CD set and track 9 of the old Varèse CD -"Death On The Carousel and End Title")- Alternate Version (listed as "Original Version" in the old Varèse CD, and not available on the original LP: Death On The Carousel (2:51))Apparently, the last one is missing from the new set :?
Trumpeteer 304 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 That's great news, but as always I'll have to hear the score in the film first....and finding that film is as hard as finding an original Horner work. LOL (sorry, just had to have one Horner joke today).
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Isn't it funny how those Horner bashers are always repeating themselves?Stefancos- who still thinks Horner is a great composer.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Isn't it funny how those Horner bashers are always repeating themselves?They're fighting him with his own weapons. But Marian, there are THREE versions of "Death on the Carousel": Â [...]Apparently, the last one is missing from the new setHmm. Well, at least the "original version" is missing, and not the one I like better. And I still have that on the old release, after all. Marian - wondering why most of Varese's Deluxe Edition covers look so crappy.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Marian, did you get an email from me today.For some reason i now have 2 email adresses from you, but i'm not sure i used the correct one.Stefancos- who reinstalled WinXP himself today, because the computerstore is now CHARGING him money.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Got it, and replied to it - you should have the reply by now. If not, I once again mistrust my server. I guess both e-mail addresses you have are correct, but the one you used is the better one. Marian - who always installs Windows himself, because he doesn't trust the stores.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Got it, and replied to it - you should have the reply by now. If not, I once again mistrust my server. Nothing yet, but my server coiuld also be responsible for that.Marian - who always installs Windows himself, because he doesn't trust the stores.Yes, but atleast you have a clue as to what you are actually doing...Stefancos- who has removed the hood from his PC, and put a big fan next to it, cause the temperature at the attic is around 35 degrees celcius. :oops:
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Hmm....I tried to send it again. But my mailserver's log says:2002-07-29 21:22:50 SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mx01.quicknet.nl [213.73.255.40]: 421 4.4.2 Timeout while waiting for command.2002-07-29 21:22:50 xxx@yyy.zzz T=remote_smtp defer (0): SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data: host mx01.quicknet.nl [213.73.255.40]: 421 4.4.2 Timeout while waiting for command.2002-07-29 21:23:02 xxx@yyy.zzz T=remote_smtp defer (-44): retry time not reached for any hostI don't know if that's a specific problem with your server, or if it's some sort of incompatibility between our two servers (though I find that hard to believe, since the mail protocol is standardized), but your address seems to be the only one with that problem.Do you have a secondary e-mail address I can try?Marian - wondering.PS: I replaced your e-mail address in the log above with "xxx@yyy.zzz", so no spam bots can steal it.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Try stefancos1977@yahoo.comSpambot, is one of those things responsible for the seemingly unstoppable amout of emails titles Britney Nude Pics Here, Wanna See Sarah Michelle Gellar censored and Angelina Jolie censored Billie Bob Thornton's censoredStefancos- who is afraid to open his email box in front of others. :oops:
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Just tried that. Hope it works better.Marian - who got a weird spam mail today: "Have a go with the Fart Machine!". The Omen (Jerry Goldsmith)
Guest Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Ordered my copy today :yellow: yipee :flamebob: beerchug jump1 :yellow:
Ricard 2,671 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Stefan, Marian, does the 'Private Message' function work for you two?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Dunno, haven't tried it.Stefancos- :roll:
Ricard 2,671 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Dunno, haven't tried it.Stefancos- Â :roll:You don't know what you're missing
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 The Fury! YAAAYYYY!!!! Film version! YAYYY!!!!! Remastered album version! YAAAAYY!!!! 2 CD set! YAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! I GOT MAIL I GOT MAIL I GOT MAIL I GOT MAIL YAAYYY!!!Unfortunately, it seems to be missing the alternate "Death on the Carousel" that was on the older Varese album. Â Perhaps it's a hidden bonus cue.The original CD lists that cue as "Original Version". If that's the case, it's probably the same version as Track 14 Death On The Carousel (2:30), available on Disc One of the new set The film version of Death On The Carousel is definitely different than the two album versions. I've heard them with my own ears. Still, the original album version is still on the Varese album, and it wasn't that hot anyways. A very plain cue. Not needed if you ask me (unless it's as a hidden track 15 minutes in back of the end titles like the alternate Star Wars Main Title Archive on the SW:SE.But what is this???No source cue?!WHERE'S the ultra-groovy... "I'M TIRED"?????NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!Oh well... it can't be UTTERLY perfect. (Unless it's a hidden bonus cue... tee-hee!!!)-Chris, Happy anyways. It's a dream come true as is...
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Try stefancos1977@yahoo.comSpambot, is one of those things responsible for the seemingly unstoppable amout of emails titles Britney Nude Pics Here, Wanna See Sarah Michelle Gellar censored and Angelina Jolie censored Billie Bob Thornton's censoredStefancos- who is afraid to open his email box in front of others. Â :oops:You have that problem too? LOL
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 (unless it's as a hidden track 15 minutes in back of the end titles like the alternate Star Wars Main Title Archive on the SW:SE.This is actually possible.Varase has included little uncredited tidbits on a few of their DE releases.Stefancos- who thinks we should start a petition if they ommit that cue.
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 That's great news, but as always I'll have to hear the score in the film first....It's available on DVD. Get it. It also occasionally plays on HBO/Cinemax. That film is a HUGE guilty pleasure for me. But I fell in love with the music on the OST CD BEFORE I ever saw the film, and hence... enjoyed it better. I may not have cared about it as much if I saw the film first, so I say "Get the damn score 1st!!!"
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 (unless it's as a hidden track 15 minutes in back of the end titles like the alternate Star Wars Main Title Archive on the SW:SE.This is actually possible.Varase has included little uncredited tidbits on a few of their DE releases.Stefancos- who thinks we should start a petition if they ommit that cue. It's not THAT essential, but it would be nice if they included it.I prefer the actual carousel music version anyways...
Justin 2 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Man I need to order my copy like soon! Indeed. You people not get in my way or there will be trouble. Justin -Still stunned at how he had heard nothing about this release. eek2 P.S. This post was an excuse to use emoticons. :wiggle: Darth Vader's Death: Return of the Jedi
Ricard 2,671 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Try stefancos1977@yahoo.comSpambot, is one of those things responsible for the seemingly unstoppable amout of emails titles Britney Nude Pics Here, Wanna See Sarah Michelle Gellar censored and Angelina Jolie censored Billie Bob Thornton's censoredStefancos- who is afraid to open his email box in front of others. Â :oops:You have that problem too? LOLWho doesn't? :confused:
Gamecube 0 Posted July 29, 2002 Posted July 29, 2002 Try stefancos1977@yahoo.comSpambot, is one of those things responsible for the seemingly unstoppable amout of emails titles Britney Nude Pics Here, Wanna See Sarah Michelle Gellar censored and Angelina Jolie censored Billie Bob Thornton's censoredStefancos- who is afraid to open his email box in front of others. Â :oops:You have that problem too? LOLWho doesn't? :confused:me
the_face 0 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 I'm relatively new to Williams and wasn't born when THE FURY was originally released. Is it a good score? Any good themes there?
mahler3 548 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Highly recommended. Composed during his peak late '70's period and is littered with those touches that we all know & love!Highlights are as follows:The 'Main Title' is a slow and brooding 6 note motif that builds to a tremendous conclusion on timpani.'For Gillian' is Williams in scherzo mode, a delightful cue.'The Search For Robin' opens beautifully with horn and strings and then builds to a magnificent crescendo.'Death on the Carousel' starts quitely with a 4 note horn motif, and continues through various orchestral permutations. The middle of the cue then segues into some of Williams most original writing (I won't give too much away, but think of a fairground tune).The 'End Titles' (actually the death scene) is a true orchestral blow-out and is not to be missed!Finally, the 'Epilogue' concludes the score perfectly with an almost adagio-type cue. Similar to Arlington from JFK in its structureThat is just a brief summation, as a score it is definitely in my top 10!It is important to note that the LSO's version (recorded thanks to some Superman sessions that were booked but not completely used) is far superior to the studio orchestra's film version as most of us already know. Particularly with regard to the death scene (can't beat the LSO's brass and percussion!)Sarabande's new release is heaven sent! Definitely one to purchase and treasure!
the_face 0 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Wicked. thanks a lot. definitely on my wish list!
Lurker 5 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Still stunned at how he had heard nothing about this releaseIt was only announced yesterday.Neil
Justin 2 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 It was only announced yesterday.Hmm well that would explain why. Justin -
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 The score is not about themes. Of course, it does have themes, and the main theme is certainly very memorable, too - but it's not the kind of melodic theme you'd expect from a 70s Williams theme.That said, the score is a masterpiece. And as far as it's function in the movie is concerned, I keep saying it might be the best score ever written. It's still amazing on CD, too.Marian - who will definitely get the Deluxe release ASAP.
KittBash 361 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Once I read that the Fury was being re-released (Yesterday! like the rest of you.) I Ran and I mean RAN for my credit card and ordered the disc. I just hope the international shipping to Canada is closer to one week not six! (the site said 1 - 6 weeks for delivery!)Brian99_1 - marveling at the way this release just came out of left field!!! :yellow:
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Actually, there have been rumors about it from some time now. Stefancos-
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 I'm glad that this rumor became reality.I now just hope the rumors about you aren't true, Stefan... BTW, Send me your money, Steef, and I'll order yours. International shipping is a little more though.-Chris, Who just ordered his today!!! YIPEE!!!!
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Send me an email with the precise amount of cash you want from me and I'll make sure to send you first rate double sided color prints of the money.You want Dollars or Euro's (i ask because Euro's are worth more these days.) LOL Stefancos- awaiting Ricards post in this thread, reminding Lord Chrusher and myself about this MB's private message function.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 So, Stefan, can I order mine? Looks like you won't need my help. Marian - who can't wait to have the disc, and is too lazy to send Stefan a PM.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Just send you a PM about this matter. Maybe we should PM Ricard reminding him we know all about the PM function.Stefancos-
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Okay, I just looked on the site for international shipping. I'll email you about it instead of wasting MB space.(Although this is a good way to cheaply increase your post count, hehehe... )
Gamecube 0 Posted July 30, 2002 Posted July 30, 2002 Okay, I just looked on the site for international shipping. I'll email you about it instead of wasting MB space.(Although this is a good way to cheaply increase your post count, hehehe... ) LOL Wasting MB space. LOL
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 Does anyone know how this score is? I've never heard this one! I would be very interested in picking it up if it is any good. Can someone tell me what it is like? Any good themes?
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 Does anyone know how this score is? I've never heard this one! I would be very interested in picking it up if it is any good. Can someone tell me what it is like? Any good themes?HOW GOOD a score this is???? ANY GOOD THEMES? SHOULD I PICK IT UP??!?!?!?! ARE YOU CRAZY??!?! My favorite SCORE this is!!!(Well, tied with Empire Strikes Back for favorite, hee-hee!)Get it. And non mp3 style. Officially!!!
Rogue_Leader 2 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 Damn you Crusher!!!!! I buy legally 95% of the time. I just refuse to do so when I see BS being thrown in my face deals like the no so "ultimate editions" and such.Anyway, looks like I might have to buy this. Any other thoughts?-Rogue Leader who is amazed anyone could rank a score up there with ESB!!!
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 -Rogue Leader who is amazed anyone could rank a score up there with ESB!!!I never thought I could either, but I got The Fury in 1995 and I've been hooked ever since. What makes this release so great that it's the full unreleased film score is there, and the awesome LSO album version is also. They are both unbelievable and essential to ANY John Williams fan.
Morn 8 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 -Rogue Leader who is amazed anyone could rank a score up there with ESB!!!I never thought I could either, but I got The Fury in 1995 and I've been hooked ever since. What makes this release so great that it's the full unreleased film score is there, and the awesome LSO album version is also. They are both unbelievable and essential to ANY John Williams fan.Essential? Ok. I expect a CDR copy 5 days after you buy it. Have you got my address?
Chris ChrusherComix 67 Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 You are also expecting a girl on your lap, but that hasn't happened yet either...
Guest Posted July 31, 2002 Posted July 31, 2002 Received mine today!!!!! Woooohooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! :flamebob: yipee Packaging and liner notes are 1st class as usual Jamesyboy - very happy!
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