What is your relationship with your parents?

[BloodBoal 8,709]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Did he sodomize you? Made you perform felatio?

[Thor 9,362]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Hopefully in a few years that picture will also be upgraded to 1080p.

[hornist 1,261]

My Mother is my hero. She raised three of us all alone, had 2-3 jobs simultaneously to be able to keep us happy.

My father wasn't around, when he was he was drunk and beat the shit out of us kids. I remember once he was

using a belt and it accidentally hit my precious little(well I was 4) "thing" on the front side so it started to bleed.

Memories.

Do I need to say how I voted in this thread?

[Josh500 1,620]

My father wasn't around, when he was he was drunk and beat the shit out of us kids. I remember once he was

using a belt and it accidentally hit my precious little(well I was 4) "thing" on the front side so it started to bleed.

Memories.

Man, that's terrible!

So how long haven't you seen him? Do you even know whether he's still alive?

[Brónach 1,330]

I have a very good relationship with both of my parents and I wish I saw them more often. I can see they worry about me a lot, and have started recently to ask me if I've got a girlfriend already or things like that.

This said, in any case the problem of the relationship is me. I withdraw too much. I hide too many things.

[hornist 1,261]

My father wasn't around, when he was he was drunk and beat the shit out of us kids. I remember once he was

using a belt and it accidentally hit my precious little(well I was 4) "thing" on the front side so it started to bleed.

Memories.

Man, that's terrible!

So how long haven't you seen him? Do you even know whether he's still alive?

I haven't seen him in many years now. He lived in other country(Sweden) 20 years, stopped drinking. Good for him.

I have met him couple of times as an adult but I have nothing to say to the person I do not know at all. Surely I missed my father

nearly every day as a kid, he was my hero despite of the violence.

Nowadays I'm totally Ok with my life. Biggest goal is not to make same mistakes with my own kids. So far so good...

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Sunday was mom's 75 birthday, and we had a great time. Cherish your parents guys, even if you're estranged. Once they are dead there is no getting anything back, even if it's the slightest of a relationship.

[Quintus 6,493]

I'm happy for you Joey, it sounds like you're all very close and that is how you like it to be.

When my dad kicks the bucket this will be my reaction: meh.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Same for me. 2 years ago when he was supposedly dying my girlfriend said I should go to him, make peace, forgive him etc...

But there was nothing to forgive. The guy has just not been any part of my life since 1987, and before that it was all negative.

I heard today a former colleague of mine was found dead, presumably killed himself. That did more to me then my fathers death will ever do.

[Josh500 1,620]

Nowadays I'm totally Ok with my life. Biggest goal is not to make same mistakes with my own kids. So far so good...

Yep. At some point, one has to focus on one's own life and move and look forward. Good for you!

Sunday was mom's 75 birthday, and we had a great time.

That's great!

Cherish your parents guys, even if you're estranged. Once they are dead there is no getting anything back, even if it's the slightest of a relationship.

Well, you know, parents can be the greatest thing on earth if they are good or great parents, but they can also do a lot of harm...

I don't subscribe to the notion that you have to love/cherish/respect your parents just because they are your parents. Only when they are great, good, or even mediocre parents, sure; but not when they have been bad parents, through and through. Then you are better off without them, anyway.

[Incanus 5,890]

Just being a mother or father to a child, meaning that you share the same blood, does not make you automatically entitled to love and affection from a child. It is something you earn through unselfish acts and being there through thick and thin, a person who takes care of a child, teaches life's lessons, a person who sets the limits because they love a child, a person who despite their faults is someone who a child can trust and rely on and respect. I know it is a tough and tricky job but this world is full of those good hard working and wonderful parents who do this every day, single mothers and fathers and couples who have done their job and earned the affection of their children.

And then there is the flip side of the coin, those selfish and irresponsible who treat their children horribly and the in the old age demand affection as if it is some right given by blood relation as if that alone would atone all they have done in the past. If sharing the same blood is the only thing that connects to you to a person is that bond enough?

[Thor 9,362]

I find it intriguing that so many of us have a bad to mediocre relationship to our fathers. I don't know what I can read out of that, but probably......something?

[BloodBoal 8,709]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

I find it intriguing that so many of us have a bad to mediocre relationship to our fathers. I don't know what I can read out of that, but probably......something?

Just you wait till those repressed memories come floating back.

[Incanus 5,890]

I can't wait for the TV series of JWFan where after a forum crash we end up on a deserted forum and every week one member has his/her flashback episode.

Episode 1: All the best JWFanners have daddy issues (plot synopsis):

JWFanners regroup after the crash. Survivors try to call for tech support and help, but find Andreas missing. Mysterious howls and growls are heard from the densely jungled area of the forum that might or might not mean that Mark Olivarez is returning. And then we discover there are Others. We are not alone. Spooky. Mysterious. But mainly there are daddy issues.

[Josh500 1,620]

And then there is the flip side of the coin, those selfish and irresponsible who treat their children horribly and the in the old age demand affection as if it is some right given by blood relation as if that alone would atone all they have done in the past. If sharing the same blood is the only thing that connects to you to a person is that bond enough?

Yes.

If a child actually has to think whether he loves his parent, then that parent has done something wrong (provided the child is not crazy or otherwise mentally disturbed)!

If the parent has done everything right (with mistakes, of course, everybody makes mistakes), then the child will automatically love that parent, I think...

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Not at all. The kid could just be a douche.

[Josh500 1,620]

I am talking generally... and there are exceptions, of course (like in the world of cartoons)!

When my dad kicks the bucket this will be my reaction: meh.

Yes, same here.

[Brónach 1,330]

I can't even think about that

[JoeinAR 1,957]

And then there is the flip side of the coin, those selfish and irresponsible who treat their children horribly and the in the old age demand affection as if it is some right given by blood relation as if that alone would atone all they have done in the past. If sharing the same blood is the only thing that connects to you to a person is that bond enough?

Yes.

If a child actually has to think whether he loves his parent, then that parent has done something wrong (provided the child is not crazy or otherwise mentally disturbed)!

If the parent has done everything right (with mistakes, of course, everybody makes mistakes), then the child will automatically love that parent, I think...

you must live in la la land because reality and your comments are unknown to each other.

[Jay 46,241]

It was better before my brother moved out. Now whenever they want to talk to me its regarding personal stuff that I don't want to discuss with them.

Hmmm, you're 21?

Maybe time to get your own place! (I got mine when I was 21.)

I'd love nothing more than to have my own place.

But you don't because...?

I thought it was obvious. Money.

Why would you buy a show you've never seen before? Just rent/stream it, then buy if you decide you like it imho

We've been over this. You rent, I buy. I use my Amazon Prime to watch stuff I otherwise wouldn't want to own, like Arrested Development. Firefly is a series I want to experience in the best quality possible.

There's a correlation here you know...

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Yeah okay. I'm done.

[Josh500 1,620]

you must live in la la land because reality and your comments are unknown to each other.

Okay, maybe I expressed myself badly there, but that's the truth.

I guess what I was trying to say is, in a nutshell:

Most kids love their parents.

Only if the parents have done something terribly wrong or made too many mistakes, the kids will NOT love them (i.e. they will either be indifferent to them, dislike them, or outright hate them).

[Wojo 2,458]

Or if the kid falls in with the wrong crowd. Or if the kid's on drugs. Or if the kid has a mental condition that makes him gun them down in cold blood, or was just a bad egg to begin with. Or if the kid brings home a lover that the parents can't stand, which creates years of strife and conflict within the family totally independent of the level of love and material affection thrown at the kid.

[Incanus 5,890]

Or if the kid falls in with the wrong crowd. Or if the kid's on drugs. Or if the kid has a mental condition that makes him gun them down in cold blood, or was just a bad egg to begin with. Or if the kid brings home a lover that the parents can't stand, which creates years of strife and conflict within the family totally independent of the level of love and material affection thrown at the kid.

Too true. Relationships demand work from both sides. I know how selfless parents go out of their way to help their wayward children time and time again to no avail.

[BloodBoal 8,709]

[Josh500 1,620]

Or if the kid falls in with the wrong crowd. Or if the kid's on drugs. Or if the kid has a mental condition that makes him gun them down in cold blood, or was just a bad egg to begin with. Or if the kid brings home a lover that the parents can't stand, which creates years of strife and conflict within the family totally independent of the level of love and material affection thrown at the kid.

That's why I deliberately used the word "most" instead of "all."

Anything's possible in life, duh.

[Wojo 2,458]

No, not really. I wore red underpants over top of my blue pants, hoping I'd wake up being able to fly. Didn't work too well.

[Josh500 1,620]

No, not really. I wore red underpants over top of my blue pants, hoping I'd wake up being able to fly. Didn't work too well.

Ah now I get it! You're one of the kids on drugs or a kid with a mental condition...

I'm sorry, dude...

[Wojo 2,458]

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."

--Mitch Hedberg, RIP

[Wojo 2,458]

Yeah okay. I'm done.

That does appear to have been the case. Godspeed, Savas.

[Quintus 6,493]

He hasn't left us as well has he?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383]

Really?

My luck is changing for the better every day.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

My mother is a woman, and my father is a man. Er...that's about it, really.

[Thor 9,362]

My mother is a woman, and my father is a man.

I hope so for your sake.