X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014 film directed by Bryan Singer)

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Especially when played by McKellen!

[A24 5,154]

Interesting, I never say him as an anti-hero but Joey has a point.

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He isnt exactly a villian

[A24 5,154]

Maybe he's villain and anti-hero into one person.

[Jay 46,241]

He's a villain.

[A24 5,154]

Let's call him the antagonist.

[Quintus 6,493]

He's the same as Richard III. We half-side with Magneto naturally.

It's no coincidence McKellen played both.

[Brónach 1,330]

Magneto is... cool, but I dislike him.

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He's a villain.

Is the lead from BB a villain?

[Jay 46,241]

Hard to answer that without spoiling things

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He cooks drugs! Of course he's a villian!

[Jay 46,241]

Mangeto kills many innocent people in the movies, and he's an anti-hero?

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He is doing it for a greater cause. The preservation of his species.

In his mind it's war.

[Jay 46,241]

And Walter White gets involved in the drug business to pay for his wife, child, and unborn child's future when he finds out he is dying of cancer.

He's not committing genocide.

[Brónach 1,330]

He is doing it for a greater cause. The preservation of his species.

In his mind it's war.

When Magneto in that film manipulates Prof X to kill all humans I'm horrified at how could someone be okay with that. Any kind of sympathy or understanding for Magneto gets shattered into tiny pieces.

I find it easier to sympatize with Walter White's situation. He tries to survive, somehow, in an unfair society. (I've only seen the beginning of the show though.)

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Look I'm not saying I agree with Magneto. But the film makers did a good job in making him MORE then just a villain who kills because of financial gain, revenge etc etc....

It makes for a more interesting character.

[Wojo 2,458]

But he wasn't born a drug dealer. Circumstance drove him to it.

Magneto was born a mutant, but not a murderer. Human society drove him to become one, though he seldom takes up arms against his fellow mutants unless it serves his greater good. His goal is a world where mutants are the masters of all, not the persecuted. In this sense, he is a tragic antihero.

I doubt Wally White wants a world full of drug dealers.

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But he wasn't born a drug dealer. Circumstance drove him to it.

Would you say that of someone in real life?

X-Men is clearly fantasy, so we can make moral allowances. Breaking Bad goes for realism.

[Brónach 1,330]

But he wasn't born a drug dealer. Circumstance drove him to it.

Would you say that of someone in real life?

I would if it was true.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Hard to answer that without spoiling things

Walter White is a villain. He's an evil son of a bitch. He deserves a horrid death. He has ZERO redeeming qualities. He is the show's anti hero hero.

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Well that settles it....

[Brónach 1,330]

He goes that wrong? I'm not sure if I will like that development.

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In the last season he beats an newborn infant to death with a baby seal....for fun

[Jay 46,241]

Chaac, Joey doesn't watch the show.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

He goes that wrong? I'm not sure if I will like that development.

it's easy to see him sympathetically in the early season, but at some point, I'm not quite sure is the same for everyone, he crossed a line, and has since crossed others.

but hell some here think Darth Vader deserved redemption.

Chaac, Joey doesn't watch the show.

another case of someone ASSuming shit they don't know about.

[Jay 46,241]

You posted that you stopped watching the show because you didn't like it!

[JoeinAR 1,957]

then I must have watched some of the shows......

actually we've had a BB marathon Friday night watched 7 season 1 episodes.

Dave's idea not mine. but it was good, it was late, finished after 3am

[Jay 46,241]

I obviously knew you had seen early episodes, and I also knew you had not seen the later episodes. So I was right. Ass.

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Behave!

[chuck 155]

Wow. Okay. I didn't know we had a Breaking Bad x X-Men crossover.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

I obviously knew you had seen early episodes, and I also knew you had not seen the later episodes. So I was right. Ass.

I've watched 4 seasons of the show.

shows what the hell you know. or don't

which means I have this season to go.

[KK 3,313]

He goes that wrong? I'm not sure if I will like that development.

Well Joey exaggerates a bit. But he does cross a line.

I suggest you watch the show and judge for yourself.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

He goes that wrong? I'm not sure if I will like that development.

Well Joey exaggerates a bit. But he does cross a line.

I suggest you watch the show and judge for yourself.

I didn't exaggerate anything, Walt crosses several lines, but some here are far more ambiguous when it comes to their moral center and what is acceptable and what is not.

[KK 3,313]

Well yes, but I don't think he's as cold-hearted as you described him to be.

Once he reaches the extremes, you can see some moral struggles. And the character does ultimately find redemption

[JoeinAR 1,957]

totally disagree, he crossed one line that ended any chance he has for redemption. If heaven and hell are real his chance at heaven is over but his chance for hell are 100%

[Matt C 605]

Peter Dinklage (Game of Thrones) has joined the cast, according to Bryan Singer's Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/BryanSinger/status/301886258572046338

[Score_Fan 37]

Puck.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

Music by John Ottman? It should be "music by The Moody Blues".

[JoeinAR 1,957]

this film is going to operate on a huge scale. Hope it lives up to it.

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I love me a good timetravel story.

[Jay 46,241]

Ottman CONFIRMED

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/04/01/john-ottman-to-score-x-men-days-of-future-past-and-non-stop/

[crocodile 9,724]

He already confirmed his involvement in the recent FSM interview.

Karol

[gkgyver 1,647]

Well, that's a good thing I guess.

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It's not bad, it's not good.

Glad they aren't using whoever composed the last X-Men film. That score was awful.

I do have hopes for this film. X-Men First Class suffered from the usual Prequel syndrome. Characters going through stuff while the audience already kinda knew what would happen. A time travel story wil, hopefully change that.

No idea how they are gonna pull off Fassbender and McKellen as Magneto in the same film. The two are nothing alike.

[Trent B 354]

It's not bad, it's not good.

Glad they aren't using whoever composed the last X-Men film. That score was awful.

Henry Jackman scored X-Men: First Class, overall I agree that the score is forgettable. There are PIECES here and there that I like but it's definitely the weakest of the X-Men scores.

I had a feeling that Ottman was gonna be brought on for the project. Ottman is generally Singer's choice for composer.

[Quintus 6,493]

Jackman's fleeting but vital work on Kick Ass was more memorable than anything in the X-Men movies.

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Parts were OK. his "heroic" theme sounded like Kamen and Ottman's themes stitched together. His guitar chords for Magneto were very obvious an annoying.

[Brónach 1,330]

He was apparently told to do that.

[Trent B 354]

If memory serves I think there was a video interview or some sort of an interview with Jackman regarding Magneto's theme. He had more for that theme than what we hear in the show but the producer wanted just what we actually ended up hearing.

Edit: Got ninja'd by Chaac.

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I don't really care, it was overdone.