What is the last Television series you watched?

[Brónach 1,330]

I'm sorry to insist, but I'm remembering now all the stuff I liked and I feel it was such a waste. Interesting characters, interesting situations, well shot and scored (it didn't usually feel cheap), really fun cast... but they blew it and we have to conform with shows with more mundane stories as today's best television.

It also has the best opening episode I've ever seen to set up a TV series, and the following episodes in which everything was introduced at the right time, not in a basic infodump. I was like "this is fucking brilliant"...

[crocodile 9,724]

Season 3 was my favourite season of Lost.

Karol

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[crocodile 9,724]

I loved season 5. It was so ridiculous and funny.

You see, I think most of you folks treat Lost way, way too seriously. It always laughed at itself, why would we treat it differently?

Karol

[Brónach 1,330]

Season 5 has some stuff I love, but the show was already in the process of crashing violently against the ground by its own weight. (That happened around the Temple episodes for me.)

[crocodile 9,724]

Sixth does meander a lot, but it is sort makes sense in a way. It's a remembrance season with all the characters revisiting their past and all. It's more symbolical than plot-driven. But then again, plot was alaways secondary thing in Lost, to irritation of many fans. I was a bit underwhelmed by it, but in the big picture it makes sense to me.

Karol

[Brónach 1,330]

If plot was secondary then whay is there so much plot? So much desperate attempts at it, ranging from brilliant to dreadful? Why make it worse with that if plot was truly secondary?

[crocodile 9,724]

There isn't. It's just told in a convoluted way. Mirroring things like Watchmen comic book (which inspired the series in a lot of ways).

Karol

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[Brónach 1,330]

Yeah because Inception introduces plot just to hook the viewer and then abandons it.

Inception is what happens when you introduce something and go with it.

There isn't. It's just told in a convoluted way.

What do you mean that the story isn't complex?

Well it never gets to be a complete story so I'll give you that.

[crocodile 9,724]

Lost plot is very simple. There is a mysterious island which emanates with this very special energy that every human being desires. So you get ages of people visiting it and trying to exploit it. In the middle of all this you have two little children whose questionable upbringing creates an eternal conflict where they debate the nature of sin and all that (garden of eden, eh?). So they both bring a lot of people on the island and they all die in the process. Flight Oceanic 815 is the final stage of this story. This time they brought "lost" people whose lives were broken and almost impossible to fix. In the end Lost is about finding peace of mind, which in this case (as well as some other pieces of fiction like LOTR) through death and creating this alternate universe in which they're finally able to fill in those gaps that they couldn't achieve in real life. All the mechanics of the plot, genre puns, pop culture references are just meant to be fun. The main mystery, and the only one, that was worth answering is: What it is all about? What it is that we're watching? And they did answer that. That's how I see it that's why I enjoyed the whole thing.

Karol

[Brónach 1,330]

Whhy is that the only one worth answering and what is the answer?

[crocodile 9,724]

I'm not sure what to post, as my last post explained that already.

Again:

What is the answer? Well, it's about a group of broken people with issues who try to find inner piece. You know, they are all LOST in their lives (hint)? The island is just the McGuffin, a bottomless well of mysteries, which helps to establish all of that. You, know how LOST they are. That's why you get all these time travels, countless questions, non-linear narratives, constant genre-juggling, a literal "crashed on an island" setting.. You know, it's a way to metaphorically explore the very word LOST in every meaning imaginable. Even the perpetrators of all this, Jacob and MIB, don't know the answers. Neither does their "mother". There isn't one. It's just about your decisions and if you're able to find that peacuful place in your soul. You know, THE LIGHT?

As to why? Because before watching it was just speculation on my part. Judging from all the recurring themes. But the finale is so blatant and obvious in its themes that it puts everything into perspective. Actually, both this and "Across the Sea" episode (with its DVD commentary too) explain the whole show to me.

I don't know how to make it even more clear (and embarassingly so).

Karol

[Brónach 1,330]

I did get that. I think I misunderstood the ending of your post and my question didn't refer to that exactly.

[crocodile 9,724]

You see, that's why I find arguing about the superficial plot elements pointless. They function is to help establish the theme and develop characters (and they do develop). I don't see, for example, how would the story be greatly enriched if the island turned out to be some alien entity or something like that. I might explain it in plot terms, sure, but t has no meaning.To me, at least.

Karol

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I don't like your condescending tone, Mr. Croc. No cake for you!

[crocodile 9,724]

I'm just explaining how I see it, that's all. Not sure what's condenscending about it...

Karol

[Koray Savas 2,260]

LOST didn't develop its characters well? Biggest load of shit I've read on this board.

[Brónach 1,330]

Who said that?

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Incanus earlier on and I think BloodBoal agreed.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

"Deadwood". Dead good!

[Brónach 1,330]

Incanus earlier on and I think BloodBoal agreed.

They were talking about the minor characters introduced later on.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

Yes, thank you, Chaac! At least one member here reads others' posts in their entirety, and not just one sentence taken out of context!

[Koray Savas 2,260]

If you think I'm reading over a page of you guys bashing LOST or your huge ass essay on TDKR you got another thing coming

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[Koray Savas 2,260]

I already have, many times.

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[Brónach 1,330]

I'll get to a conclusion about Lindelof when I see Prometheus tomorrow.

But so far I think he's being overrated.

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[crocodile 9,724]

I'll get to a conclusion about Lindelof when I see Prometheus tomorrow.

But so far I think he's being overrated.

He is, because he's painting on wrong canvas. Lost was smart, because you could do some of the things you couldn't do elsewhere (again, IMO). And Prometheus and Cowboys & Aliens just confirm that to me.

Karol

[Jay 46,241]

Finished season 5 of True Blood last night. Meh. The final 2 episodes almost redeemed a mostly boring and wondering season, but not quite. I would have given up on this show a while ago, but my GF like it so we watch together.

But now for something completely different (and better). Season 5 of Breaking Bad (S3 is not released in my primitive country) has received a whoppping 99/100 score at Metacritic. That's probably the highest score that any movie or show has ever been given.

Alex

We're about halfway through Season 3 of Breaking Bad right now. Goddamn, its an AWESOME show.

Can't you buy the Season 3 blu ray set from another country and watch it in your player?

Amazon UK has both the Region A Blu Ray for £27.85 and Region B Blu Ray for £31.50

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I'll get to a conclusion about Lindelof when I see Prometheus tomorrow.

But so far I think he's being overrated.

He is, because he's painting on wrong canvas. Lost was smart, because you could do some of the things you couldn't do elsewhere (again, IMO). And Prometheus and Cowboys & Aliens just confirm that to me.

Karol

I think it's important to note that he rewrote both of those scripts. With Cowboys & Aliens he's like the last writer on a list of 5 or 6. Goes to show just how much that script went through hell.

[A24 5,155]

We're about halfway through Season 3 of Breaking Bad right now. Goddamn, its an AWESOME show.

Can't you buy the Season 3 blu ray set from another country and watch it in your player?

Amazon UK has both the Region A Blu Ray for £27.85 and Region B Blu Ray for £31.50

Yes, I think I will do that.

[KK 3,313]

I've never watched Lost and I don't think I have the energy to invest time in that.

On the other hand, I caught up with Dexter and I agree with the earlier sentiments posted here. The show was at its peak at season 1, which was terrific. It was greatly paced and didn’t have a dull moment in its entirety.The show never reaches that season’s glory again though and it gradually gets worse with each new season, with the exception of season 4. Season 4 was great television

and that twist in the end just blew me away (to the point that I wasn’t sure I wanted to go through with the other seasons without Rita, considering she was a significant part of the show’s charm).

And even though the seasons progressively get weaker, it is entertaining stuff. But it can get formulaic after too much Dexter. We always wonder if he’s going to get caught to find that he doesn’t. And for all his self-doubt and lessons learned, there are points where you can’t help but wonder if we’ve heard this rambling before. Sometimes you get the sensation that for all his adventures, he hasn’t changed all that much. But as Jason said, it does make an interesting character study. Something I'm also noticing is how this show uses a lot of stock characters that are simply used as cheap plot mechanisms. I'd rather prefer that these secondary characters have something significant to add to Dexter's character development rather than adding to the thrill. Not all the new characters are like that, but there sure are a lot of them. In the end, I’m definitely looking forward to season 7

(with a twist like that, who wouldn't?!)

, but here’s to hoping that this show doesn’t drag out forever. I'm wondering how much longer Dexter has before he reaches redundancy. As it is, I enjoyed Dexter very much.

[crocodile 9,724]

I'll get to a conclusion about Lindelof when I see Prometheus tomorrow.

But so far I think he's being overrated.

He is, because he's painting on wrong canvas. Lost was smart, because you could do some of the things you couldn't do elsewhere (again, IMO). And Prometheus and Cowboys & Aliens just confirm that to me.

Karol

I think it's important to note that he rewrote both of those scripts. With Cowboys & Aliens he's like the last writer on a list of 5 or 6. Goes to show just how much that script went through hell.

Yes, that is a good point. And he wrote Prometheus in about two weeks.

Karol

[Brónach 1,330]

In two weeks?

[Jay 46,241]

I'm wondering how much longer Dexter has before he reaches redundancy.

I believe they've already announced that Season 8 will be the final season. I think they knew that going into Season 6.

[KK 3,313]

Ahh, thats good.

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[KK 3,313]

121 episodes, each at the duration of 50 minutes versus 50 episodes with the same duration.

I'll take the latter, thank you very much.

And I'm not sure if Lost is the show for me. If it really is truly great, then I'll check it out, but I think I'll keep the show on the back-burner for now. Next show I have my eyes on is Breaking Bad.

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[Jay 46,241]

Community is good

[KK 3,313]

I can't believe I'm about to watch Community, since it was suggested by a guy who watches Dexter. Maybe I should give up...

Community is fantastic! Best comedy out there right now, you'll be making a mistake not watching it. And hey, just because I don't have time for Lost doesn't mean I won't ever watch it. There are a lot of shows I have to check off my list and Dexter's just been on that list for a while now.

[Jay 46,241]

It's funny, but not the best comedy. I laugh more at Modern Family, Parks and Recreation, and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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[crocodile 9,724]

In two weeks?

Two or three. About a 2 hours 18 minutes into this interview he starts to talk about Prometheus.

Oh and somewhere at hour and a half into the video he recounts in great detail how Lost came to being. Really good, candid interview.

Karol

[KK 3,313]

It's funny, but not the best comedy. I laugh more at Modern Family, Parks and Recreation, and Curb Your Enthusiasm.

Modern Family and Parks and Recreation are great but I think Community is a better made show than the both of them. I haven't seen the last one you mentioned.

[Jay 46,241]

Yeah, Modern Family for the win!

I quite like Raising Hope, as well. It's an uneven show, but when it's good, it's REALLY good! Love the Smokey Floyd episode!

That's the one with Eliza Coupe from Scrubs right? I've been meaning to check it out

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I love Happy Endings....