Lincoln FILM Discussion Thread

[Ollie 1,375]

Ahhh the tracklist game:

1. Theme From Lincoln

2. The Early Years

3. Abe And Mary

4. Running for Congress & Passing The Bar

5. Forming The Party

6. A Troubled Nation - Secession

7. Victory!! / Hail To The Chief

8. America At War, North vs. South

9. The Emancipation Proclamation

10. A Father's Loss

11. Delivering The Gettysburg Address

12. The War Ends

13. A Second Term

14. Reconstruction

15. Ford's Theatre - Lincoln's Noble End

16. Aftermath

17. End Credits - Lincoln's Theme.

[John Crichton 4]

1. Theme from Lincoln

2. Growing up in Illinois

3. Abe and Mary

4. A House Divided

5. Debating Douglas

6. Triumph and Tribulation

7. At Odds with McClellan

8. Emancipation

9. Finding a General

10. Gettysburg

11. The Tide Turns

12. With Malice Toward None, With Charity Towards All

13. Ford's Theater (or, in true Williams style, The Assassination Scene)

14. Theme from Lincoln (Reprise)

[Taikomochi 1,460]

You people are going about this all wrong. These tracklists should be ina horrible, tortured order so as to... give the album a better listening experience.

[Henry B 51]

Ahhh the tracklist game:

1. Theme From Lincoln

2. The Early Years

3. Abe And Mary

4. Running for Congress & Passing The Bar

5. Forming The Party

6. A Troubled Nation - Secession

7. Victory!! / Hail To The Chief

8. America At War, North vs. South

9. The Emancipation Proclamation

10. A Father's Loss

11. Delivering The Gettysburg Address

12. The War Ends

13. A Second Term

14. Reconstruction

15. Ford's Theatre - Lincoln's Noble End

16. Aftermath

17. End Credits - Lincoln's Theme.

1. Theme from Lincoln

2. Growing up in Illinois

3. Abe and Mary

4. A House Divided

5. Debating Dougals

6. Triumph and Tribulation

7. At Odds with McClellan

8. Emancipation

9. Finding a General

10. Gettysburg

11. The Tide Turns

12. With Malice Toward None, With Charity Towards All

13. Ford's Theater (or, in true Williams style, The Assassination Scene)

14. Theme from Lincoln (Reprise)

[Williamsfan301 12]

1) Theme from Lincoln

2) Splitting rails/Learning by Candlelight

3) Abe and Mary

4) Politics/Coming to Washinton

5) Lincoln vs. Douglas

6) A new Party

7) Running for President

8) Election/"We are not enemies..."

9) Fort Sumter

10) Brother vs. Brother

11) Gettysburg

12) Victory at Appomattox

13)"With malice towards none..."

14) Fateful Night

15) A Nation mourns

16) Aftermath

17) Theme from Lincoln Reprise

[Taikomochi 1,460]

1. Theme From Lincoln

2. The Early Years

3. Delivering The Gettysburg Address

4. The War Ends

5. Forming The Party

6. Reconstruction

7. A Second Term

8. A Father's Loss

9. America At War, North vs. South

10. The Emancipation Proclamation

11. A Troubled Nation - Secession

12. Running for Congress & Passing The Bar

13. Victory!! / Hail To The Chief

14. Abe And Mary

15. Ford's Theatre - Lincoln's Noble End

16. Aftermath

17. End Credits - Lincoln's Theme.

There, I fixed it.

[Nick Parker 3,049]

There we are. Hey, wait, you should delete some Tracks, too.

[Taikomochi 1,460]

There we are. Hey, wait, you should delete some Tracks, too.

But the highly anticipated "Gettysburg Chase" where Lincoln duels Jefferson Davis with Rapiers while riding on horseback is already missing.

[Incanus 5,890]

There we are. Hey, wait, you should delete some Tracks, too.

But the highly anticipated "Gettysburg Chase" where Lincoln duels Jefferson Davis with Rapiers while riding on horseback is already missing.

Damn! That is my Holy Grail of the Lincoln score! "Scherzo for the Enraged President and Orchestra" is 9 minutes of pure Presidential swashbuckling bliss and JW left it off the album!Typical, just typical!

I mean a chase for 3 tubas, 10 piccolo trumpets, a banjo and string quartet plus an accordion. Absolutely frenetic stuff.

And by the way the Early Years ("The Adventures of Abe") is just a concert version of the middle portion of the "Scherzo for the Enraged President and Orchestra". That theme does not appear anywhere else in the film so it is not really a theme. I hope JW wins a Grammy for it!

[Jill Sandwich 11,166]

Special Bonus Track: Hey, Blinkin!

[Taikomochi 1,460]

The part that makes me most angry is that it's missing the insert where the two Tyrannosaurus Rexes eat Hannibal Hamlin in "Rescuing Johnson". What a shame.

[Ollie 1,375]

You know, sometimes you can stretch a joke a little too far.

[Richard P 5,303]

I hear the recording sessions have leaked, and they have the full version of Lincoln's Noble End without that stupid microedit that left out the 1.333334 seconds of the start of the "tragedy" motif. Me wannttsss

Mark - yeah, you can, but it's still fun.

[John Crichton 4]

Special Bonus Track: Hey, Blinkin!

Did you say Abe Lincoln?

[Taikomochi 1,460]

You know, sometimes you can stretch a joke a little too far.

Because he continued the joke right after your post.

I find that funny, as well as the post itself.

[Ollie 1,375]

Actually I was referring to you.

[Hitch 60]

Is this movie about the failing US car industry?

[Williamsfan301 12]

Is this movie about the failing US car industry?

No, it's about a Savings and Loan

[Taikomochi 1,460]

Actually I was referring to you.

No duh. But I wasn't the only one making the joke, so referring to me while others are making the joke just seems odd.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Paramount said no to this movie and Spielberg and his declining clout will have to pass for now on this movie.

That means there won't be another dust collector by John Williams any time soon.

Hooray,

Rejoice JW fans. Mediocrity is pushed back for now.

Spielberg no longer an 800 lb gorilla

[Jeshopk 8]

Paramount said no to this movie and Spielberg and his declining clout

Didn't Spielberg rake in hundreds of millions for Paramount last year? I'm sure it is not his declining clout.

[Morlock 12]

I see nothing worth rejoicing about.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Morlock if you want to see a movie about Lincoln there are old ones out there better than what Spielberg would have made.

[scissorhands 16]

This is the most unwise and foolish post Joe's ever written.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

how so Peio, its news, I just put a mean slant on it. Seriously, you'd be about the only one who would put in among your top favorites. besides this is a movie I never wanted Spielberg to waste his time on. glad to know he's not got the clout he used to.

[scissorhands 16]

What you wrote isn't news but sheer lurid tabloidism.

It's not about being among my favorites or the people's favorites. A new score by John Williams will be always better than nothing.

[Delorean90 47]

Good--more time to consider Indy V.

[scissorhands 16]

Actually it's only good news for us concert works-lovers.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

What you wrote isn't news but sheer lurid tabloidism.

It's not about being among my favorites or the people's favorites. A new score by John Williams will be always better than nothing.

no its news, if the film is dead, thats news. And if Spielbergs clout is reduced that too is news.

And no a new John Williams score is not better than nothing, not if its another Munich or KOTCS

[Ollie 1,375]

And to think I was scoffed at when I suggested Spielberg isn't the heavy weight he once was.

[Red 75]

I suspect this is has more to do with the economy being bad than anything else.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

If this is news, there is already a Lincoln thread to post it in.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

No I think Mark and I have been right and that Spielberg doesn't get the automatic pass he once did, and the fact that Dreamworks has basically failed doesn't say much good.

[Williamsfan301 12]

But other than that, how was the movie, Mrs. Lincoln?

[John Crichton 4]

Dammit, I wanted to know if my tracklist was right!

[Ollie 1,375]

I'm sure we were close.

[Jeshopk 8]

No I think Mark and I have been right and that Spielberg doesn't get the automatic pass he once did, and the fact that Dreamworks has basically failed doesn't say much good.

It doesn't say anything about Spielberg. Dreamworks is not his baby. He just works there.

And any Williams IS better than nothing, ESPECIALLY if it is another Munich or KOTC. Not sure what kind of palette you have if you're that finicky.

[JoeinAR 1,957]

Munich is horribly dry Jess, and Kotcs was ok, nothing special.

I'd rather have something much better than either of them

[Jeshopk 8]

Munich is horribly dry Jess, and Kotcs was ok, nothing special.

Munich is an emotional powerhouse of a score. KOTC is special. Considering that you have an affinity for very similar music, your insensitivity to the music indicates an emotional detachment from new stimulus. I recommend opening your heart meridian using internal QiGong.

[Wojo 2,458]

I'm not upset at all about this. Big screen biopics rarely interest me, as I never saw Amistad, and a big budget depiction of Lincoln doesn't interest me either.

[indy4 160]

I suspect this is has more to do with the economy being bad than anything else.

I agree. Taking a look at his most recent films, they've been able to earn a lot of money at the BO.

I'm dissapointed, because I doubt this'll be replaced by a new JW score. At this point, I don't really care too much WHAT movie JW is scoring, just that he's scoring a movie that will be released in the near future. Of course I would prefer him to be scoring popcorn fluff, but I would have settled for a historical drama quite contently. Let's hope Indy 5 or Interstellar replaces this.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Munich is an emotional powerhouse of a score.

Woo hoo! 3 Munich fans on the board:

Jeshopk

Koray

Merkel

[Henry B 51]

Of course I would prefer him to be scoring popcorn fluff, but I would have settled for a historical drama quite contently.

Haha...

[Wojo 2,458]

When did Spielberg stop making movies for the fans and start making them for the art critics, movie critics, and awards shows? Indy IV was meant to be for the fans, but it got perverted by post 1997 George Lucas. Was it Schindler's List? Granted, that one was a huge success in every sense of the word, and I'm sure the people who love it do so for good reason. But did SS develop get the idea he could put his name on anything and it would become a critical success, even at the expense of being a financial one? I see movies like AI, Munich, Amistad, WOTW, and The Terminal and just wonder.

[Nick Parker 3,049]

I always thought Steven Spielberg made those "personal" films because he wanted to make them. I guess I was wrong....

[Joe Brausam 234]

Munich is an emotional powerhouse of a score.

Woo hoo! 3 Munich fans on the board:

Jeshopk

Koray

Merkel

Make that four!

[Nick Parker 3,049]

Hm, I rented it from the library, but I have yet to listen to it. Maybe I will do that now....

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Okay, after actually reading the article, no where does it state this film is not being made. Paramount is contemplating, they didn't say no, and if they do Disney might step up.

[Wojo 2,458]

I understand why he would make personal films. It's good, he's earned it, and he spent a lifetime of filming B-movies with A-budgets to define just what a blockbuster is.

I just wonder if the studios are tired of them and would like some mega-hit blockbusters to bring the money in in droves, and they didn't think a Lincoln movie would do it. I think if a Lincoln movie had come out NOW, around President's Day, Lincoln's Birthday, Black History Month, and that CNN list naming Abe the best president ever...that a Spielberg Lincoln movie would do better now than at year's end.

[Romão 2,473]

Munich is an emotional powerhouse of a score.

Woo hoo! 3 Munich fans on the board:

Jeshopk

Koray

Merkel

You bet. Fantastic score

And I'm totally with Peio on this one. Sigh...