Brónach 1,330 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 I want to ask for something. Could you people keep the Prometheus talk in the Prometheus thread for at least three months, please? I would very much appreciate that. I don't want to be spoiled or reminded of it constantly, I want it to be a special when I see it.Thanks
Ren 77 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 I want to ask for something. Could you people keep the Prometheus talk in the Prometheus thread for at least three months, please? I would very much appreciate that. I don't want to be spoiled or reminded of it constantly, I want it to be a special when I see it.Thanks:-)Unfortunately/fortunately the last film I watched other than west side story was the hunger games.....
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 20, 2012 Posted May 20, 2012 People will talk about Prometheus in this thread, I seriously doubt anyone could stop that. The best those who haven't seen it should hope for is spoiler tags.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Maybe it's better that I just avoid this thread. I was thinking on writing reviews of the films I see this summer instead.Another option to see Prometheus would be taking a train to France in June (I'm closer), or to Portugal later in July because I have exams in June. Shit, I should do that all summers and practice a bit my French or my Portuguese.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Our tv commercials would drive you nuts.every other commercial is either Snow White and the Huntsman or Prometheus.
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Same here at the moment. Same two movies. It's annoying.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I wonder if I know someone around here who would fancy a 250 km trip in exam time to see a film in English with French subtitles and then back again, or I'm going alone.
indy4 160 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I saw The Avengers. It was a decent action movie, but not much different than most these days.
King Mark 3,975 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Watchmen feels a million times more 'real' than The Avengers, and I'd be very surprised if Whedon himself ever argued otherwise. His movie is a rollicking action adventure movie with its tongue transplanted to its cheek, as it ought to be. Those who believe it to be more realistic than Watchmen are completely missing the point.But you know what really bores me in this whole conversation and thread? That every motherfucking superhero/comic adaptation is compared to bloody Watchmen. It's a superb film, but it aint the bleedin' authority on the subject, and neither are its fanboys.And I like Kick-Ass better than Watchmen. Does that count as a real superhero movie too?
Taikomochi 1,461 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.he's a poor director, but he has his own style, that I will give him.
Red 75 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.That's a big reason why he was wrong for Watchmen.
A24 5,156 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Perhaps that's one of the differences, Watchmen can exist without CGI while The Avengers can't.Untrue.I disagree ...The Avengers are so far-fetched ...Aha!Do you really think they would've greenlighted this film before CGI? They would've deemed it impossible. Am I the only one who sees the CGI spectacle based scenes in The Avengers? Perhaps you take my statement a little too literal. Of course you can make The Avengers or any other movie (2012) without CGI but it would show (in a very bad way). Almost everything you see (one far-fetched thing after another) was possible thanks to CGI. Without it, we would've scratched our head. The writer had the comfort of letting his imagination run wild because he knew he wouldn't be limited thanks to CGI. It actually amazes me that people think The Avengers could've just as well been made before the CGI area. I'm certain that if they had the same script 15 years ago, they would've turned it into an Marvel animation flic instead of a live action picture.You're being nit-picky for the sake of it. You're making reasons up for your not liking of the movie and it shows,I agree. Perhaps he's not always making up reasons but belittling the special, more unique style and approach of Watchmen by saying that he's sees differences between all the latest Marvel films too is what I call typical Chaacing. He reminds me of Morlock, but younger.Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.True! But that goes for the generic Marvel movies as well. While Marvel movies have an impersonal, interchangeable, save, standard direction, Snyder's movies always have a personal, operatic, arty, dreamlike, graceful tone/quality. I could make a case for them on that basis alone.Alex
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,387 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Watchmen is realistic inside its own universe though.
A24 5,156 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 People often say his films or his style is about hyper-reality, a false reality that becomes reality. Everything you see (the characters, the sets) is 'enhanced'. I didn't read the GN but I have a feeling Zack Snyder sees the Watchmen as inhuman. They do things that are inhuman. At first I thought, are these people replicants? Is there some drug in the world of Watchmen that can turn people into stronger beings? Perhaps slightly inhuman is how he perceived them when he read the comic book when he was still a 'youngen'.Alex
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Like when The Comedian punches the wall. Or the alley fight (a bit out of character). When I read it I got the impression they were definitely human but crazy, to do what they do (a theme of the story). Snyder sets them apart a bit, with little things here and there.Something interesting in this film, is that they way some scenes are shot make me feel like I'm seeing theatre. As if the screen was a window there. Do any of you relate to this?Watchmen feels a million times more 'real' than The Avengers, and I'd be very surprised if Whedon himself ever argued otherwise. His movie is a rollicking action adventure movie with its tongue transplanted to its cheek, as it ought to be. Those who believe it to be more realistic than Watchmen are completely missing the point.But you know what really bores me in this whole conversation and thread? That every motherfucking superhero/comic adaptation is compared to bloody Watchmen. It's a superb film, but it aint the bleedin' authority on the subject, and neither are its fanboys.And I like Kick-Ass better than Watchmen. Does that count as a real superhero movie too?Yes. And if it had a bit of more balls towards the end, it would be one of my favourite superhero films. Sadly it got bland, it kind of betrayed itself. The book is ugly-looking, but nailed it.
Wojo 2,458 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Watchmen is realistic inside its own universe though.That argument doesn't hold any water.
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I don't buy this argument that Watchmen isn't allowed to be stylistically realistic. It's probably the main reason why I fuckin' loved it. The baggage-laden characters, the earthy mundaneness of the writing, they make it a veritable kitchen sink superhero drama, for crying out loud.
Romão 2,473 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I do have a problem with Watchmen. He made some of the heroes (specially Night Owl) too cool, too stylish, whereas they were kinda pathetic, decadent and stupid looking in the graphic novel
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I do have a problem with Watchmen. He made some of the heroes (specially Night Owl) too cool, too stylish, whereas they were kinda pathetic, decadent and stupid looking in the graphic novelYes. And Ozymandias suffered the reverse process for some reason.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,387 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 nag...nag...nag...Maybe Ozymandias should have been done in CGI.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 I had to look up what nag means.No, but I would have chosen a different actor, given him a better suit and staged some of his scenes differently.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,387 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Yes, because you Chaac, from Linares know more about making movies then the very professional people of Hollywood California!Ozy was very different from the comic, but I prefer the film version. In the comic he was just some beefcake.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,387 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 He's badass in the film. Love the sleeker look. Also love the hint of a german accent the actor gave him.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Me too.I should stop being lazy talking about random films based on comic books and get my ass to continue my comic book.
MrJosh 1,205 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 So I've been WAY behind on current movies: I just watched Thor the other night. After watching Avengers...so it was kind of a prequel.So, I liked Thor, but I REALLY liked the score. Patrick Doyle was getting it on with that film, good job to him.Interesting that Hawkeye had a cameo in Thor.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 If they make a Thor film that's like the first one just without Earth and more worlds out there... I'm in.
Wojo 2,458 Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 I watched The Hulk versus Thor on Netflix. It's an animated movie but I enjoyed it.
crocodile 9,724 Posted May 24, 2012 Posted May 24, 2012 Watched Perfume: Story of a Murderer with score played live. It didn't change my opinion on film or music, but I enjoyed myself nontheless. The performance was really strong.Karol
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 25, 2012 Posted May 25, 2012 The Social NetworkThis films tries to do several things at once and somehow succeeds.The first half of the film is great. Then, despite some cool moments, it becomes way less interesting. The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.For example. There's this asocial character who betrays his only friend. That's interesting. The whole social network thing. The fake friends. But a drama is made of how little Eduardo owns of the company. Are you kidding me? He still has more money 99% percent of the viewers will ever see in their life! This is why Batman movies are about Batman and not about Bruce Wayne... It's the Batman part that's dramatic.David Fincher is amazing. He tells almost word by word a 161 page script in 120 minutes. The cinematography and the editing is great.I don't like the ending. Maybe there's something going on in that scene that I didn't get? (I noticed some themes that reappeared again through the film, it was clever.) Overall I get the sense that this material could have gone further.The score doesn't hurt the film at all. I was expecting something unlistenable after all that flack.Then, a completely different film...A History of ViolenceI was hugely entertained. However I was not satisfied. I'll read the book and see what happens.I have to idea about firearm shootouts but I get the impression that the main character could (should?) have been killed like two or three times.
Matt C 605 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Secret World of ArrietyFor an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.
chuck 155 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Secret World of ArrietyFor an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Theoretically I wanted to see Arriety but I can't get myself to do so.
A24 5,156 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.Hmm, I didn't experience it that way. I was absorbed with the film from A to Z. I liked the ending too (not a climax but a start). One of Fincher's best, IMO.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 It's still in my head. I might see it again.Wonderful cast btw.
A24 5,156 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 We're watching the 4 MI films, doing a MI marathon. Tom Cruise is a very good actor but he can be annoying and while he's nice looking he's less interesting with long hair.
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.
Brónach 1,330 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.Timberlake made me laugh and want to punch him at the same time. Interesting character.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.I would never connect the two and still don't. Cruise has so much more than Bradley Cooper ever has. I do like Cooper but Cruise has owned the business for over 3 decades
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 What I meant is I find Cruise to be incredibly smug in MI.
JoeinAR 1,957 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 okay I see what you are saying.Mission Impossible II is not very good and all the blame falls directly on John Woo's horrible direction.
chuck 155 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 4th MI is awesome and Tom Cruise is getting better being Ethan Hunt with each successive films.
Xander Harris 9,675 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 What I meant is I find Cruise to be incredibly smug in MI.I like smug Cruise. "Yes sir, you gotta love this town!" Or Lestat in Interview with the Vampire, his definitive role.
Matt C 605 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.
A24 5,156 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?
chuck 155 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.Cool. Have you seen Grave of the Fireflies?
Quintus 6,496 Posted May 27, 2012 Posted May 27, 2012 I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?Initially yes, it's probably the reason he was cast in both - he's incredibly smooth and self-satisfied in those movies; before the world he's created for himself closes in and utterly tumbles down around him - exposing him as a vulnerable and frightened man on the edge. In the masterful Eyes Wide Shut, Cruise is outstanding in that regard - Kubrick seems to enjoy placing him situations which make him look weak and out of his depth - and Cruise embraces it. He's a brilliant, brilliant actor, there's no doubt about that in my mind.
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