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I want to ask for something. Could you people keep the Prometheus talk in the Prometheus thread for at least three months, please? I would very much appreciate that. I don't want to be spoiled or reminded of it constantly, I want it to be a special when I see it.

Thanks

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I want to ask for something. Could you people keep the Prometheus talk in the Prometheus thread for at least three months, please? I would very much appreciate that. I don't want to be spoiled or reminded of it constantly, I want it to be a special when I see it.

Thanks

:-)

Unfortunately/fortunately the last film I watched other than west side story was the hunger games.....

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People will talk about Prometheus in this thread, I seriously doubt anyone could stop that. The best those who haven't seen it should hope for is spoiler tags.

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Maybe it's better that I just avoid this thread. I was thinking on writing reviews of the films I see this summer instead.

Another option to see Prometheus would be taking a train to France in June (I'm closer), or to Portugal later in July because I have exams in June. Shit, I should do that all summers and practice a bit my French or my Portuguese.

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Our tv commercials would drive you nuts.

every other commercial is either Snow White and the Huntsman or Prometheus.

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I wonder if I know someone around here who would fancy a 250 km trip in exam time to see a film in English with French subtitles and then back again, or I'm going alone.

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I saw The Avengers. It was a decent action movie, but not much different than most these days.

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Watchmen feels a million times more 'real' than The Avengers, and I'd be very surprised if Whedon himself ever argued otherwise. His movie is a rollicking action adventure movie with its tongue transplanted to its cheek, as it ought to be. Those who believe it to be more realistic than Watchmen are completely missing the point.

But you know what really bores me in this whole conversation and thread? That every motherfucking superhero/comic adaptation is compared to bloody Watchmen. It's a superb film, but it aint the bleedin' authority on the subject, and neither are its fanboys.

And I like Kick-Ass better than Watchmen. Does that count as a real superhero movie too?

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Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.

he's a poor director, but he has his own style, that I will give him.
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Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.

That's a big reason why he was wrong for Watchmen.

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Perhaps that's one of the differences, Watchmen can exist without CGI while The Avengers can't.

Untrue.

I disagree ...The Avengers are so far-fetched ...

Aha!

Do you really think they would've greenlighted this film before CGI? They would've deemed it impossible. Am I the only one who sees the CGI spectacle based scenes in The Avengers? Perhaps you take my statement a little too literal. Of course you can make The Avengers or any other movie (2012) without CGI but it would show (in a very bad way). Almost everything you see (one far-fetched thing after another) was possible thanks to CGI. Without it, we would've scratched our head. The writer had the comfort of letting his imagination run wild because he knew he wouldn't be limited thanks to CGI. It actually amazes me that people think The Avengers could've just as well been made before the CGI area. I'm certain that if they had the same script 15 years ago, they would've turned it into an Marvel animation flic instead of a live action picture.

You're being nit-picky for the sake of it. You're making reasons up for your not liking of the movie and it shows,

I agree. Perhaps he's not always making up reasons but belittling the special, more unique style and approach of Watchmen by saying that he's sees differences between all the latest Marvel films too is what I call typical Chaacing. He reminds me of Morlock, but younger.

Nothing about Zack Snyder's direction resembles realism.

True! But that goes for the generic Marvel movies as well. While Marvel movies have an impersonal, interchangeable, save, standard direction, Snyder's movies always have a personal, operatic, arty, dreamlike, graceful tone/quality. I could make a case for them on that basis alone.

Alex

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People often say his films or his style is about hyper-reality, a false reality that becomes reality. Everything you see (the characters, the sets) is 'enhanced'. I didn't read the GN but I have a feeling Zack Snyder sees the Watchmen as inhuman. They do things that are inhuman. At first I thought, are these people replicants? Is there some drug in the world of Watchmen that can turn people into stronger beings? Perhaps slightly inhuman is how he perceived them when he read the comic book when he was still a 'youngen'.

Alex

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Like when The Comedian punches the wall. Or the alley fight (a bit out of character). When I read it I got the impression they were definitely human but crazy, to do what they do (a theme of the story). Snyder sets them apart a bit, with little things here and there.

Something interesting in this film, is that they way some scenes are shot make me feel like I'm seeing theatre. As if the screen was a window there. Do any of you relate to this?

Watchmen feels a million times more 'real' than The Avengers, and I'd be very surprised if Whedon himself ever argued otherwise. His movie is a rollicking action adventure movie with its tongue transplanted to its cheek, as it ought to be. Those who believe it to be more realistic than Watchmen are completely missing the point.

But you know what really bores me in this whole conversation and thread? That every motherfucking superhero/comic adaptation is compared to bloody Watchmen. It's a superb film, but it aint the bleedin' authority on the subject, and neither are its fanboys.

And I like Kick-Ass better than Watchmen. Does that count as a real superhero movie too?

Yes. And if it had a bit of more balls towards the end, it would be one of my favourite superhero films. Sadly it got bland, it kind of betrayed itself. The book is ugly-looking, but nailed it.

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Watchmen is realistic inside its own universe though.

That argument doesn't hold any water.

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I don't buy this argument that Watchmen isn't allowed to be stylistically realistic. It's probably the main reason why I fuckin' loved it. The baggage-laden characters, the earthy mundaneness of the writing, they make it a veritable kitchen sink superhero drama, for crying out loud.

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I do have a problem with Watchmen. He made some of the heroes (specially Night Owl) too cool, too stylish, whereas they were kinda pathetic, decadent and stupid looking in the graphic novel

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I do have a problem with Watchmen. He made some of the heroes (specially Night Owl) too cool, too stylish, whereas they were kinda pathetic, decadent and stupid looking in the graphic novel

Yes. And Ozymandias suffered the reverse process for some reason.

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I had to look up what nag means.

No, but I would have chosen a different actor, given him a better suit and staged some of his scenes differently.

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Yes, because you Chaac, from Linares know more about making movies then the very professional people of Hollywood California!

Ozy was very different from the comic, but I prefer the film version. In the comic he was just some beefcake.

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Me too.

I should stop being lazy talking about random films based on comic books and get my ass to continue my comic book.

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So I've been WAY behind on current movies: I just watched Thor the other night. After watching Avengers...so it was kind of a prequel.

So, I liked Thor, but I REALLY liked the score. Patrick Doyle was getting it on with that film, good job to him.

Interesting that Hawkeye had a cameo in Thor.

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If they make a Thor film that's like the first one just without Earth and more worlds out there... I'm in.

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I watched The Hulk versus Thor on Netflix. It's an animated movie but I enjoyed it.

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Watched Perfume: Story of a Murderer with score played live. It didn't change my opinion on film or music, but I enjoyed myself nontheless. The performance was really strong.

Karol

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The Social Network

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This films tries to do several things at once and somehow succeeds.

The first half of the film is great. Then, despite some cool moments, it becomes way less interesting. The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.

For example. There's this asocial character who betrays his only friend. That's interesting. The whole social network thing. The fake friends. But a drama is made of how little Eduardo owns of the company. Are you kidding me? He still has more money 99% percent of the viewers will ever see in their life! This is why Batman movies are about Batman and not about Bruce Wayne... It's the Batman part that's dramatic.

David Fincher is amazing. He tells almost word by word a 161 page script in 120 minutes. The cinematography and the editing is great.

I don't like the ending. Maybe there's something going on in that scene that I didn't get? (I noticed some themes that reappeared again through the film, it was clever.) Overall I get the sense that this material could have gone further.

The score doesn't hurt the film at all. I was expecting something unlistenable after all that flack.

Then, a completely different film...

A History of Violence

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I was hugely entertained. However I was not satisfied. I'll read the book and see what happens.

I have to idea about firearm shootouts but I get the impression that the main character could (should?) have been killed like two or three times.

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Secret World of Arriety

For an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.

Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.

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Secret World of Arriety

For an animation studio whose hallmark is their stunning animation, Studio Ghibli really outdid themselves with this film. The interiors of the main house, Arriety's home, and the dollhouse are brimming with detail, subtle touches and this is worth several viewings alone just to soak up all those details. And for the umpteenth adaptation of "The Borrowers", this film finds a way to tell it in a fresh and engaging way.

Cecile Corbel's score is unusual and evocative. It's not trying to ape Joe Hisaishi's style, but it's more of a minimalistic score. It's quite effective and supports the dreamy, gorgeous visuals well.

Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?

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The film is brilliant when it tries to be a character piece with some of the lawsuit as background, but when it turns the lawsuit part into the important thread I get bored, because the problems of these characters could be how fucked up their are as people, but other than that they don't have real problems. Until it got there it was wonderfully watchable, though.

Hmm, I didn't experience it that way. I was absorbed with the film from A to Z. I liked the ending too (not a climax but a start). One of Fincher's best, IMO.

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Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.

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We're watching the 4 MI films, doing a MI marathon. Tom Cruise is a very good actor but he can be annoying and while he's nice looking he's less interesting with long hair.

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I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.

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Loved Timberlake's contribution. I bought the Blu-ray for Jeff Cronenweth's photography alone.

Timberlake made me laugh and want to punch him at the same time. Interesting character.

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I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.

I would never connect the two and still don't. Cruise has so much more than Bradley Cooper ever has. I do like Cooper but Cruise has owned the business for over 3 decades
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okay I see what you are saying.

Mission Impossible II is not very good and all the blame falls directly on John Woo's horrible direction.

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4th MI is awesome and Tom Cruise is getting better being Ethan Hunt with each successive films.

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What I meant is I find Cruise to be incredibly smug in MI.

I like smug Cruise. "Yes sir, you gotta love this town!" Or Lestat in Interview with the Vampire, his definitive role.

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Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?

Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.

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I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.

Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?

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Which do you think is better, Spirited Away or Arrietty?

Spirited Away wins, hands down. My first viewing of it, after it got a nationwide expansion with the Oscar nomination, was sublime. It's still quite arresting and evocative, along with the typical Miyazaki touches. But comparing it to Arrietty is apples and oranges. It's more sedate and grounded, more along the lines of My Neighbor Totoro.

Cool. Have you seen Grave of the Fireflies?

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I've only ever seen the first movie, which was entertaining enough at the time. Cruise has got too much Bradley Cooper factor going on in those movies for my tastes.

Somehow the first one is the best. What about Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, Eyes Wide Shut or the films where smugness is an important part of the role he's playing?

Initially yes, it's probably the reason he was cast in both - he's incredibly smooth and self-satisfied in those movies; before the world he's created for himself closes in and utterly tumbles down around him - exposing him as a vulnerable and frightened man on the edge. In the masterful Eyes Wide Shut, Cruise is outstanding in that regard - Kubrick seems to enjoy placing him situations which make him look weak and out of his depth - and Cruise embraces it. He's a brilliant, brilliant actor, there's no doubt about that in my mind.

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