The Quick Question Thread

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

Thanks, Incanus!

I understand that PJ wanted Tom Bombadill in "LOTR", but couldn't find a way to shoehorn him in. Is this true?

[Incanus 5,890]

Thanks, Incanus!

I understand that PJ wanted Tom Bombadill in "LOTR", but couldn't find a way to shoehorn him in. Is this true?

I think they chose not to have him in the film in the first place since his appearance would have stopped the momentum of the main plot. But I don't think they ever planned to have him in the films, nor the Old Forest episode, nor the Barrow Downs. They cut a lot of these rather unique moments for the sake of time and pacing.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

...sooooooo....why was "the scouring of the shire" cut? In the book (and the excellent Radio 4 series) it really re-inforces the story as Sam's, an not Fodo's, as most people thought.

[Incanus 5,890]

...sooooooo....why was "the scouring of the shire" cut? In the book (and the excellent Radio 4 series) it really re-inforces the story as Sam's, an not Fodo's, as most people thought.

In filmic narrative it would have been anticlimactic after the apocalyptic events of the War of the Ring. Plus the running time would have been seriously lengthened by it. The Scouring's lessons of how war affects even those that are not in the middle of it, how evil can't be defeated by a single all cleansing act and how the Hobbits had grown on their adventures to be able to resist evil on their own as they had matured and seen the war and had found courage are important but I agree that they could not have a 1½ hour denouement with another conflict and another set of epilogue scenes after the actual war was over. One of those things that works well in the book and not so well in a film. They do homage the Scouring in the Mirror of Galadriel scene, where a glimpse of that future is seen but it is averted since the Ring was destroyed. Or that is how the film makers explained it.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

On the one hand I would have loved to have seen it,. on the other hand I can see why it would have caused massive narrative difficulties in the film. Remember, the ROTK took a lot of criticism for taking ages to end in it's current form.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

I certainly hope so

[Jay 46,241]

Thanks, to both Faleel, and Blood. My next question is: why did he not complete the whole story?

Because he died.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

Spoiler!

[Brónach 1,330]

...sooooooo....why was "the scouring of the shire" cut? In the book (and the excellent Radio 4 series) it really re-inforces the story as Sam's, an not Fodo's, as most people thought.

In filmic narrative it would have been anticlimactic after the apocalyptic events of the War of the Ring.

It already felt anticlimatic to me in the book.

Maybe in a four film series. Or in the structure of a TV series with infinite budget. Series with cohesive Breaking Bad type of storytelling without filler seem to tolerate epilogues like this quite well.

[Jay 46,241]

I wish they had filmed the Scouring anyway and included it in the EE version of the film or something.

Hey, they rebuilt Hobbiton for the filming of the TH films, they should film it now!

[BloodBoal 8,711]

I wish they had filmed the Scouring anyway and included it in the EE version of the film or something.

Hey, they rebuilt Hobbiton for the filming of the TH films, they should film it now!

It'll be included at the end of There And Back Again (with Azog replacing Saruman), so we'll get to see it after all.

[Jay 46,241]

Posting your jokes twice doesn't make them funnier.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

Damn! I thought that would work.

[Jay 46,241]

I still love you BB!

[BloodBoal 8,711]

I love you too!

[Jay 46,241]

[BloodBoal 8,711]

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

Gay!

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

...sooooooo....why was "the scouring of the shire" cut? In the book (and the excellent Radio 4 series) it really re-inforces the story as Sam's, an not Fodo's, as most people thought.

In filmic narrative it would have been anticlimactic after the apocalyptic events of the War of the Ring. Plus the running time would have been seriously lengthened by it. The Scouring's lessons of how war affects even those that are not in the middle of it, how evil can't be defeated by a single all cleansing act and how the Hobbits had grown on their adventures to be able to resist evil on their own as they had matured and seen the war and had found courage are important but I agree that they could not have a 1½ hour denouement with another conflict and another set of epilogue scenes after the actual war was over. One of those things that works well in the book and not so well in a film. They do homage the Scouring in the Mirror of Galadriel scene, where a glimpse of that future is seen but it is averted since the Ring was destroyed. Or that is how the film makers explained it.

A very good answer. Thanks.

[John Takis 394]

What was the last score to be credited to Johnny Williams, what was the first score to be credited to John Williams, and why is "The Long Goodbye" credited to

John T. Williams?

I thought I'd read something about the Johnny/John transition in John Takis' liner notes for Heidi, but I can't find it. Anyway, the old Label X release is credited to Johnny, while the new Quartet release credits John.

There are a few early "John Williams" screen credits (Daddy-O in 1958 was "John Williams"). But the formal transition from "Johnny" back to "John" happened circa 1967. Valley of the Dolls had a "John Williams" screen credit (although the soundtrack LP still used "Johnny" on the cover). Fitzwilly had "Johnny Williams," which I believe qualifies it as the last. In 1968, both Land of the Giants and Heidi were "John Williams" -- and for these two productions, both his screen credit AND the original Capitol Records LPs had "John" on the cover. The fact that the Label X CD of Heidi uses "Johnny Williams" is one of the errors on that release.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

Soooo...why is "TLG" the only film credited to "John T Williams"?

[Wojo 2,458]

Happy Tintin Day. That is all.

[BloodBoal 8,711]

That's not a question!

[chuck 155]

No it's a Jeopardy-type question.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

What celebration is on Thursday October 10th? Anything else?

[chuck 155]

That does it for the first round!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

What celebration is on Thursday October 10th? Anything else?

Alice's birthday?

[Wojo 2,458]

Tintin. Ten ten. Koray got it. It wasn't funny. Moving on.

[chuck 155]

That was quick.

[Incanus 5,890]

I was listening to John Williams' Earthquake soundtrack album that I recently purchased and noted that the track 9 and 10 must have switched places in the track list since they do not seem to correspond to the music. I. e. For Remy should be track 9 and Medley should be track 10 and not the other way around as it says in the track list. Am I correct in assuming this?

[Omen II 1,300]

I was listening to John Williams' Earthquake soundtrack album that I recently purchased and noted that the track 9 and 10 must have switched places in the track list since they do not seem to correspond to the music. I. e. For Remy should be track 9 and Medley should be track 10 and not the other way around as it says in the track list. Am I correct in assuming this?

Yes, you are right Mikko. Check out my analysis of the score on this website if you cannot rest until you know what the medley consists of.

[Incanus 5,890]

I was listening to John Williams' Earthquake soundtrack album that I recently purchased and noted that the track 9 and 10 must have switched places in the track list since they do not seem to correspond to the music. I. e. For Remy should be track 9 and Medley should be track 10 and not the other way around as it says in the track list. Am I correct in assuming this?

Yes, you are right Mikko. Check out my analysis of the score on this website if you cannot rest until you know what the medley consists of.

I sure will! Thanks!

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

Why has Mark Olivarez's account become 'guest?'

[Wojo 2,458]

Methinks we finally done dang diddley done chased him away fer good. Dang.

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

What was that guy's problem?

[Quintus 6,494]

Who?

[Jay 46,241]

I don't think he's going to come back this time.

[Sharkissimo 1,978]

Did I miss something?

[Jay 46,241]

No.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

He's not really gone, as long as we remember him.

[Rachael Foley 10,162]

I don't think he's going to come back this time.

Of course he will, thats just morbid thinkin'

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

I don't think he's going to come back this time.

I agree.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

Well damn, he went the way of JC!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

More prove that Texans lack staying power.

[Wojo 2,458]

Well damn, he went the way of JC!

Yes, but JC will return on the third day. MO won't.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

On the bright side it'll allow me to take 2nd place and then Steef and I will be as close as ever!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,385]

Just the though of you and I being "close" made me trow up in my mouth a little bit.

[Koray Savas 2,260]

I love you too.

[Naïve Old Fart 13,020]

a quick "The Matrix" question:

How could Cypher plug himself into The Matrix, and talk with Agent Smith without anyone else knowing?