KK 3,313 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 I heard the film was really dull. And I know Malick's films are usually divisive, but I heard it went worse with critics this time.And being someone who actually likes a good dose of Malick, what I've seen from the trailer seems tried and a bit redundant in style.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Good god that'd be like telling Leone to cut back on the close-ups and impeccable framing.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 No, because Leone isn't annoying me with a youtube video compilation of feel good postcard shots.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 You're the problem then. Malick is an auteur.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 So? That doesn't mean I have to like it, or that it's necesarily good.I admit I'm pulling your leg a bit, but you get the idea.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 I'm not saying you have to like it, but it seemed like you were criticizing a director for... being himself. "Too much of the same style! Stop being Malick!"
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 The thing is that his previous films did contain these elements. But The Thin Red Line had little of it, it had an interesting backdrop, and indeed a good story. The New World, it lingered on it more, but I liked the setting. (I will always wonder if the film could have actually been more interesting had Malick ditched the Pocahontas/Smith romance angle, which seems to be a posterior romantic invention as far as we know). The Tree of Life had it, but it tried to promise more (whether it achieved it or not is up for discussion.)To the Wonder, as far as we can tell so far, seems reduced to a collection of Malick's stylings, and on top of it seems to be simply about some characters being in love, which combined with Malick's stylings I'm likely to find boring as hell and make me wish Ben Affleck killed someone and ran away with his girlfriend or something. I might sound embittered, but when the meat of the trailer is couples cuddling shot like Malick and Bardem talking about love, and happy music, it's easy to point it out and think "that... might be a little hard to digest."If you look at something like The Thin Red Line, Malick does use his style to tell something and adapts it in consequence, and tries to find what matches in the material with his way of doing it and the things he likes. I'm all for that. To the Wonder seems to repeat the style of The Tree of Life, but it just doesn't look interesting to me.
KK 3,313 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Malick's previous films combined his sense of style with either an intriguing premise, great concepts or a wonderful sense of visual flavour that made the overall experience something special. From this trailer, this film looks more like style with no substance.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 I want to know what's the music in the trailer.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 This one has an original score by someone I never heard of, but I'm sure the trailer music is a classical piece.RE: Your previous points, all of Malick's films meddle with certain philosophical themes and notions. Love is pretty much always at the heart of each story, though, so I don't understand why that's a problem here. The only difference right now is that all we've tasted in those sumptuous 100 seconds is the love aspect of what is sure to be a broader film.My favorite shot in there is of the staircase.
A24 5,156 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Watching that Malick trailer, I somehow expected Supes to blast towards the heavens.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 You mean watching that Supes trailer, somehow you expected Sean Penn to whisper about the heavens. Quintus 1
A24 5,156 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 No, because contrary to To The Wonder, the Man Of Steel trailer doesn't look like a Malick parody.
Quintus 6,496 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah, he was just pissing about anyway.
filmmusic 3,269 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 watched multiple times the Mallick trailer and managed to cry..1st time of viewing was the anticipation and curiosity of how it would look.2nd time was awe of the scenery and cinematography3rd time was impressed by the direction of the shots4th time noticed the actors5th time noticed the narration and tried to make out what it's saying6th time got into my skin and moved me..(if I missed any viewing, forgine me )
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Composer Hanan Townshend discusses the scoring process.How did scoring for To the Wonder differ from The Tree of Life?HT: Working on TTW was in many ways a very similar experience to that of TOL – Terry, the editors and I would meet every few days and we would discuss what music had been working in the cut and what hadn’t. These discussions could last for anywhere from a couple of minutes to several hours, all dependent on what ideas had been ‘discovered’ in the editing process that day. Sometimes we wouldn’t talk about music at all, sometimes Terry would talk more about the philosophy of music, or sometimes we would spend 30 minutes talking about the placement of a piece of music and the ways in which it could help transcend a scene by coming out of a character’s specific thought or gesture. Having the time to experiment was one of the most enjoyable, and at times frustrating, parts of the experience.The most obvious way in which this film was different from that of TOL, was that I was the actual composer. This meant that I got to call the shots on the recording session side of things, which was really rewarding as I hadn’t really worked with such a large ensemble before. There are of course many things I would do differently next time around; live and learn.What was the nature of the philosophical discussions?HT: These discussions would vary a lot. One of the most memorable examples was when Terry asked one of the editors to close their eyes and throw a musical cue of the cut, without any specific knowledge of where they were dropping it. Experimenting in this way would allow for ‘chance’ to have an important part to play in the process and it would open up all sorts of discussions on: music placement, the ways in which visuals & music affect one another, as well as how important chance can be in the creation of film/music and art as a whole.
filmmusic 3,269 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 Composer Hanan Townshend discusses the scoring process.Talk about a cinderella story!From student directly to composer of Mallick's films.By the way, I "wonder" if we will listen at least 2 minutes of his music in the film..(given that the director discards most of the music written for his films and substitutes them with classical music)
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 20, 2012 Posted December 20, 2012 It seems like a good portion was kept considering the info in the interview. At the very least his "Marion's Theme." He also arranged a couple classical pieces and he said some of that was kept in.
Wojo 2,458 Posted December 21, 2012 Posted December 21, 2012 Les Miserables 2012 Highlights album for $5.00 at Amazon.If you wait to buy the Highlights album for more money, you'll be More Miserables.
A24 5,156 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Just by means of a roundup:Top 10 most highly anticipated Sci-Fi & Fantasy movies of 2013:http://www.reelz.com...movies-of-2013/While I was overlooking the page, Elysium was the film that jumped out at me the most. I probably will see it. I'll watch Goyer's Supes: Man Of Steel too, of course, but the other ones? Hmmm ...Alex
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Mostly interested in Elysium myself.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 There are 10 sci-fi movies coming out next year?
A24 5,156 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Even more ... there are a few honorable mentions at the bottom of the page.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Oh I see that only like 2 of them are sci-fi.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 Well a bit more, I exaggerated. Elysium, Oblivion, and Star Trek Into Darkness. The Seventh Son looks like it. I wouldn't really call the others science fiction. They didn't even include After Earth.
Brónach 1,330 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 I am reading that Vin Diesel wants to make a trilogy about Hannibal.I hope this goes nowhere and never leaves development hell. I'm scared.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted December 27, 2012 Posted December 27, 2012 He has been pitching that idea for over a decade now
Wojo 2,458 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 I am reading that Vin Diesel wants to make a trilogy about Hannibal.I hope this goes nowhere and never leaves development hell. I'm scared.I just hope he finishes his Riddick trilogy first.
indy4 160 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Interview with Tony Kushner:http://m.ew.com/news-detail.rbml?guid=0,,20643739,00Will you miss working with Steven?I haven't told this to anyone, but I'm already working on a new script for him, so we'll be talking all the time again. I just started on it a couple of weeks ago. I can't say any more than that. I wonder what it is? Robopocalypse script is probably finished already.
Jay 46,244 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 We've been discussing that in the Lincoln thread
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Looks like a decent rental!The first film was quite successful. Why did it take so long for him to do a sequel?
A24 5,156 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 And in that long period Rodriguez only has disappointed me. I hope the sequel to Sin City will change that.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Yeah, what happened to him? Or Del Toro for that matter?
Quintus 6,496 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Posted January 5, 2013 del Toro isn't prolific enough. Sin City is one of only three Rodriguez movies I enjoy, the other two being Planet Terror and Dusk Till Dawn.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Del Toro's last few projects seemed to have been stuck in development hell. (The Hobbit included)
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 del Toro isn't prolific enough. Sin City is one of three Rodriguez movies I only enjoy, the other two being Planet Terror and Dusk Till Dawn.No love for Desperado? It's his best!
Quintus 6,496 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Posted January 5, 2013 I didn't mind it when I saw it years ago, but if someone gave me the dvd I'd politely decline.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Rodriguez seems to lack the ambition these days for his films to be more then just a big budget homage to trashy cinema. Or family films....
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 His budgets are not even big, and he's doing what he wants, how he wants. What's the problem?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,386 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 No problem, just not that interested any more....
Wojo 2,458 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 My favorite Rodriguez film, admittedly, is his recipe for Puerco Pibil. One of these days, I'm going to attempt it.
Koray Savas 2,260 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Do it. I've had it (brother made it) several times. I'm not a huge fan of pork but that stuff is delicious.
crocodile 9,724 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Holy shit! A new Terrence Malick film: Karol
Jay 46,244 Posted January 5, 2013 Posted January 5, 2013 Haha, you're now the third person to post this recently. Scroll up and read the previous page too.Nice to see the trailer in actual HD this time, though.
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