BloodBoal 8,711 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 No new trailer until September!! Damn!But some clips from the film may be available soon!
KK 3,313 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 At least the last production video is coming soon.
KK 3,313 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 What Elijah Wood had to say at Comic Con: It's not much. We know his role is book-end material and he has a small part, all of this we already assumed though.
Muad'Dib 2,059 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Comic-Con: No third 'Hobbit' pic plannedWell, that's a relief! Don't be so sure, Messenger!http://collider.com/...-movies/180491/
Quintus 6,494 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 Seems both unlikely and very likely - if we bear in mind the desires of the studio execs. I won't be surprised.
Luke Skywalker 2,383 Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 cool but its ironic they make 3 films for a short book, and LOTR with 5 times or more lenght was also three movies...I suppose that's because they are adding a lot of things from other tolkien stories SafeUnderHill 1
KK 3,313 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I doubt it'll happen, especially if fans protest against it (which I hope they do). I think we'll just end up with extended editions.
Marian Schedenig 11,694 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 cool but its ironic they make 3 films for a short book, and LOTR with 5 times or more lenght was also three movies...I suppose that's because they are adding a lot of things from other tolkien stories I can't see 3 films happening, but 2 probably makes sense. On the one hand, as you said, they're putting in a lot of back story that was hinted at in the novel but never explained (partly because much of it wasn't even written at that time). But on the other hand, much of the journey part of the book is very straightforward - mostly the narrator telling in broad strokes what's going on, plenty of inner monologue snippets by Bilbo wishing to be back home, and very little actual dialogue. Turning that into a self-sustaining movie (as opposed to a montage sequence) probably requires a lot of fleshing out, new dialogue etc.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 The Silmarillion will be a 12 part film saga, each film lasting 3 hours.
Quintus 6,494 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 And Morgoth's design will be controversial with Incanus and BloodBoal.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Am I the only one who thinks this new posterWas inspired by this drawing?
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Morgoth Blaugir should not be shown. He should live as an idea in the hearts of Elven, Dwarrow and Men!
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 I know what you are but what am I!
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Cool!Just watched the trailer on my big screen TV with the speakers booming.That song will be in my head all day again. Hope it will be on the CD I'm guessing Gollum is going to look absolutely perfect here, better then ever before.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 The way the LOTR scores were released was very successful for Shore. Why change a good system?
Ren 77 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Tiesto!!!!!!!!!! BB you are my hero, going to listen now
Quintus 6,494 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 This guy was a good interviewer, clearly a fan. Notice how Jackson stares admiringly at his assistant director when he talks about reprising his role as Gollum. There's definitely a great friendship been forged between the two. Jackson trusts Serkis and respects his views very much. It's nice to see.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Interesting that they are showing a preview in 24 fps now.
Quintus 6,494 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 It's very understandable after the uproar last time, Jackson is right.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 In what conditions was the first preview done? Maybe 48 fps did look odd and digital video like in a convention hall.
KK 3,313 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 In what conditions was the first preview done? Maybe 48 fps did look odd and digital video like in a convention hall.Hobbit-con reel will screen in 2D, 24 fps.He did it in 24 fps so that people don't focus on the technical aspects. He wants people to view 48 fps with the film as a whole.
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Yes I just said that! The first preview was in 48fps though. The ones with the bunnies of Doom!
KK 3,313 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 Oh yes, I misread that. No I think the conditions were fine, but most of the footage from the first preview was unfinished (with green screens and all that). And theres the fact that because of the rapid, abrupt changes in scenes, one can't really get used to the 48 fps in as short as a time as 10 min. 48 fps just takes time to get used to and by the time you watched the whole film with the natural progression from scene to scene, I'm sure people will love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HselkQMNXKMI didn't bother watching the whole thing, just the first few minutes. I love how much cheering there was at the mention of Shore having his recording sessions in five weeks. Its clear that Shore's work is as endearing to fans as the films are.
Alan 767 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I know it probably won't have much impact on the finished result, but I was kind of disappointed to see Jackson dismiss miniatures so much in that interview and to see him confirm that there have been no miniatures built or shot for The Hobbit. Part of what appealed to me with The Lord of the Rings was that it was a massive production using old and new techniques together - whichever was best for a particular shot or scene.I guess they just found that they had reached a point where CG was as good or better than miniatures for them.
Jay 46,241 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 That was a very good read! They managed to get me excited for 48fps 3D again.Still, I'll probably see it opening night in 2D, and then catch a 3D showing later KK 1
Jay 46,241 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Anyway, while I love them, I can't see what miniatures they could have built for The Hobbit. There are no big structures or buildings as in LOTR (such as Barad-Dûr or Minas Tirith). Perhaps they could have built the Lonely Mountain and Laketown, and reuse Rivendell, but that's about it.Just what I was about to say
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Anyway, while I love them, I can't see what miniatures they could have built for The Hobbit. There are no big structures or buildings as in LOTR (such as Barad-Dûr or Minas Tirith). Perhaps they could have built the Lonely Mountain and Laketown, and reuse Rivendell, but that's about it.And what, pray tell, does The Necromancer live in, a teepee?
Ren 77 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 That's no miniature, that's a real set!Anyway, while I love them, I can't see what miniatures they could have built for The Hobbit. There are no big structures or buildings as in LOTR (such as Barad-Dûr or Minas Tirith). Perhaps they could have built the Lonely Mountain and Laketown, and reuse Rivendell, but that's about it.I do agree with what alan said, though, about the mix of old and new techniques.Yes I know. Hence camera trickery....
Wojo 2,458 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 My digital camera can also add that horizontal stripe of clarity in two fields of blur to suggest a miniature landscape.
Brónach 1,330 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Anyway, while I love them, I can't see what miniatures they could have built for The Hobbit. There are no big structures or buildings as in LOTR (such as Barad-Dûr or Minas Tirith). Perhaps they could have built the Lonely Mountain and Laketown, and reuse Rivendell, but that's about it.Just what I was about to sayThey can work with miniatures of interiors as well. The inside of the Lonely Mountain comes to mind.
Luke Skywalker 2,383 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I know it probably won't have much impact on the finished result, but I was kind of disappointed to see Jackson dismiss miniatures so much in that interview and to see him confirm that there have been no miniatures built or shot for The Hobbit. Part of what appealed to me with The Lord of the Rings was that it was a massive production using old and new techniques together - whichever was best for a particular shot or scene.I guess they just found that they had reached a point where CG was as good or better than miniatures for them.So the man we knew has been consumed by the dark side of the force and become George Lucas finallyNo miniatures? better. In the LOTR films they stick like a sore thumb when there is live action put on miniature sets.(miniature sets in a landscape shot look great).
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 12,383 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Remember that in the early 2000's CGI was still in it's infancy. They had no choice but to resort to traditional techniques.
Incanus 5,890 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I am gone for 10 days and hey presto Gandalf avatar madness begins. I have to try to learn who is who these days with half of the MB as Gandalf and other half switching to each other's avatars. Preposterous! Ridiculous! Harrumph!
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