Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Another reason I don't want to see it is because I typically hate sequels made 20-30 years later with the beloved characters as old people. It always fucks with my mind. Like, I still can't get that awful fucking Crystal Skull with a completely out of character silly old man Indiana Jones saying "Somewhere your grandpa is laughing" out of my brain, no matter how much I watch Temple of Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Do you think Ben Burtt will dial out BB8s motif to prevent it from interrupting his sound effects?Bleep-bleep-bloopity.Fyi, Ben Burtt is not working on The Force Awakens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 he isn't? hell yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Do you think Ben Burtt will dial out BB8s motif to prevent it from interrupting his sound effects?Bleep-bleep-bloopity.Fyi, Ben Burtt is not working on The Force Awakens.He is: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/14/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abramsBurtt is back for this movie, and I tried to get Abrams to discuss his contribution.“I can’t talk about what he’s doing specifically on this movie, but I’ll say that I’m thrilled to get to work with Ben again,” the director said. “We worked together on the Star Trek films, on Super 8, and now on this. We also are lucky to have Gary Rydstrom, of course, and Matt Wood. We have an amazing sound team.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There were claims around (which I guess were just wild rumors) just a few weeks ago that Burtt wasn't involved anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There were claims around (which I guess were just wild rumors) just a few weeks ago that Burtt wasn't involved anymore.Hmm. Yeah, that Entertainment Weekly article is just from last August. I think it's at least likely that he's not as involved in the various facets of post-production as he was with the prequels. He could have just contributed some sound design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Wasn't Matthew Wood Ben Burtt's protege? Wasn't he responsible for the sound mixes on the DVDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 well, as long as he doesn't mess with the score mix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I have no interest in seeing the movie unless maybe everyone posts that Williams composed something positively amazing that didn't make the OST.Ah, the inevitable back-peddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's still highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Another reason I don't want to see it is because I typically hate sequels made 20-30 years later with the beloved characters as old people. It always fucks with my mind. Like, I still can't get that awful fucking Crystal Skull with a completely out of character silly old man Indiana Jones saying "Somewhere your grandpa is laughing" out of my brain, no matter how much I watch Temple of Doom.My problem with KotCS in that regards was Karen Allen. She was just awful. I admit I'm a bit worried about Hamill and Fisher in TFA Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Is it possible to be both a JWFan and a Ben Burtt fan? Because I am, despite the hackjobs done to the prequel scores.Another reason I don't want to see it is because I typically hate sequels made 20-30 years later with the beloved characters as old people. It always fucks with my mind. Like, I still can't get that awful fucking Crystal Skull with a completely out of character silly old man Indiana Jones saying "Somewhere your grandpa is laughing" out of my brain, no matter how much I watch Temple of Doom.My problem with KotCS in that regards was Karen Allen. She was just awful. I admit I'm a bit worried about Hamill and Fisher in TFAAbsolutely. The film was fine until Marion arrived on scene. In the years since Raiders, Karen Allen had forgotten how to be Marion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I can never forgive him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Really? For designing the sound of Star Wars? Burtt's contributions are tonal and musical in their own right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's like poetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 "The sound effects guys only hear the sound effects, the music guys only hear the music." - Ben BurttThat's why you have a neutral middle man to bring it all together, not the fucking sound effects guy turning up the lava sound to completely drown out the epic cue where Williams goes full Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 That may not be the best example actually. I mean, Williams was cribbing from ESB for that sequence, and the sounds of those metal cables they were swinging on during the duel were pretty cool.The hate for Burtt on this board is pretty comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Ben Burtt hate here is just another form of entitlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I met him at Celebration and chatted with him. Super nice fellow. Down to earth. Almost like a family member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Burtt's contribution to Star Wars is massive, it wouldn't be the same without his sound effects work. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 He is the anti-Williams! The Beast! If you are in league with him you must be put down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Burtt's contribution to Star Wars is massive, it wouldn't be the same without his sound effects work.Here's proof of that. Listen to Vader's breathing.https://www.facebook.com/Antoyquity/videos/492685064162123/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 They should have hired that guy instead of James Earl Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Obi-Wan once thought as you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 That may not be the best example actually. I mean, Williams was cribbing from ESB for that sequenceNot that particular scene, actually. You're thinking of The Duel (Though the Window), which is only quoted for a relatively short segment. I'm thinking of The Boys Continue, which is positively fucking epic and completely original. Williams hasn't hit the notes like that since 2005.To be fair, in that tedious documentary on the Episode III DVD, the sound effects were turned up so high during that scene, you could barely hear the music at all. It was like the revised DVD version of Star Wars where the music wasn't audible when the fighters dive into the Death Star. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,092 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You're right... That documentary was tedious. It was like homework to get through.If I were Ben Burtt, I'd probably advocate for my work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Another reason I don't want to see it is because I typically hate sequels made 20-30 years later with the beloved characters as old people. It always fucks with my mind. Like, I still can't get that awful fucking Crystal Skull with a completely out of character silly old man Indiana Jones saying "Somewhere your grandpa is laughing" out of my brain, no matter how much I watch Temple of Doom. My problem with KotCS in that regards was Karen Allen. She was just awful. I admit I'm a bit worried about Hamill and Fisher in TFAI bet they're just glorified cameos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You know, I didn't really like Harrison Ford in KOTCS much of the time, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Is your grandpa laughing somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Fucking awful moment. He was given bad material, there's no doubt about that. I'm not sure if he could have done anything to improve things, but it certainly didn't seem like he was trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I should never have doubted you, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Quicksand is a mix of sand, mud and water and depending on the viscosity it's not as dangerous as people sometimes think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Stop! I'd almost forgotten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Is it possible to be both a JWFan and a Ben Burtt fan? Because I am, despite the hackjobs done to the prequel scores.Another reason I don't want to see it is because I typically hate sequels made 20-30 years later with the beloved characters as old people. It always fucks with my mind. Like, I still can't get that awful fucking Crystal Skull with a completely out of character silly old man Indiana Jones saying "Somewhere your grandpa is laughing" out of my brain, no matter how much I watch Temple of Doom.My problem with KotCS in that regards was Karen Allen. She was just awful. I admit I'm a bit worried about Hamill and Fisher in TFAAbsolutely. The film was fine until Marion arrived on scene. In the years since Raiders, Karen Allen had forgotten how to be Marion.I wouldn't say it was fine fine, but it was tolerable. The fridge and the gophers didn't have to be dealbreakers. I actually like the early Indy/Mutt stuff alright, the motorcycle chase is a solid bit of directing, the Peru stuff is mediocre but more or less authentic Indy. The first hour, it's lame and not that interesting but easygoing. Then you hit the jungle and the whole thing becomes annoying and embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Literally everything about it was wrong, but certain moments were so ridiculous they were kind of amusing, like Indiana Jones bumbling through a 1950s house yelling "Hello!?" and the part where he tells the kid to read Vere Gordon Childe. Also, some of his deliveries were good in the diner scene. It seemed to be him. It seemed to be getting better. But, nope. It got worse than A.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Stop! I'd almost forgotten!So what are you, like a triple agent?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Literally everything about it was wrong, but certain moments were so ridiculous they were kind of amusing, like Indiana Jones bumbling through a 1950s house yelling "Hello!?" and the part where he tells the kid to read Vere Gordon Childe. Also, some of his deliveries were good in the diner scene. It seemed to be him. It seemed to be getting better. But, nope. It got worse than A.I.I think he's good when he figures out Oxley's note. Academic Indy, he's got that smirk and a glint in his eye. He gets harder to find after that. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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