Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Better than all this HBO shit they put on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Buffy the Vampire Slayer was always the exact opposite of what I look for in TV. Shows like Charmed, and Xena... Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 You liked Xena?Yikes dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I love Xena! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh God! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Ohhh yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Oh no! Angel is a vampire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I had no idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 You liked Xena?Nope. I'm anti that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 What, strong women? Sexist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He prefers the submissive ones i think.Doesn't know what he's missing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He's more into the Willow types. Until she becomes lesbian/Dark Willow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,355 Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 Orange Is The New Black: Season 3A pleasant surprise. For some reason since House of Cards season 3 was a big letdown from Season 1 and 2, I was expected OITNB to follow suit, but I think this might actually be the best season yet. The best thing it had going for it was that it didn't do another "big bad" story like the Vee storyline from season 2 that eventually took over all the focus of the show. This was a true ensemble season, with many different plot threads running throughout that only sometimes intersected. One odd aspect is how they got rid of some more characters - When Nicky and Bennett seemed to disappear a few episodes in, I assumed they'd be back eventually and was surprised that they never returned. Did the actors have other gigs or did the writers want it this way?I did miss Lauren Lapkus's CO character (what happened to her anyway?) but didn't miss Larry at all (good riddance). Stella (Ruby Rose) was a nice new character that mixed things up a bit, and Lori Petty returning to her brief role from Season 2 ended up being a pretty cool character too. Mike Birbiglia made a strong impression as well, his interaction with Caputo was always great.Some of the better storylines this season were: Piper starting a criminal empire; Piper and Alex reuniting; Healy realizing he sucks at his job and his home life; the changes brought on by the prison being sold to a corporation, and all the scenes of their board of directors meeting; Crazy Eyes writing a popular story and being romanced by a new character; Lorna getting lots of guys to visit her and convincing one to beat up Christopher (I have to imagine that will have repercussions next season; Shouldn't be hard for the police to guess who was really behind the beating); Black Cindy becoming Jewish Some of the weaker storylines this season were: Nicky and Boo's attempt to sell the heroin and Nicky being sent away - it all seemed oddly written; Red having not much to do besides proclaiming the food wasn't hers (show spent way too much time on the food); Pennsatucky's rape storyline (the flashback one was fine, but the way her and Boo ended up handling the main storyline was odd, and you felt like shit when you realized the guy was now unpunished and would rape again. I want to see them get their revenge on him!); anything with Gloria, Sophia, blah blah; Daya keeping the baby and not letting Mary Steenburgen adopt it... and Bennett just disappearing. So lame! what happened to him!? It's so out of character for him to just leave. Pornstache's cameo was funny but depressing at the same time. I don't understand why that one scene was emmy worthy?I think the show has 2 season tops left in it before it will just be running through the same story ideas again and get tedious. Hopefully they end on a high note and don't drag the show out forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I love Xena!No wonder the golden age is wasted on you, Drax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 You guys only call this the "golden age" because you're snobby old weirdos who want to impress others with your trendy edginess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Quark from DS9 is on Buffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 He's more into the Willow types. Until she becomes lesbian/Dark Willow.Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The redhead from American Pie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I have started to re-watch Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac of all things. I remember watching it as a kid and liking but I couldn't remember a single thing. So far I'm on episode 3 of the first season and it's quite good! Though there's some awfully stupid dialog, but the animation is nice enough and the quieter moments are really well done. Let's see how it goes on, but I'm starting to remember some stuff of when I watched it many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 What, strong women? Sexist.Anti shite programming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 That was zeitgeist TV, as much as GOT is today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I know but it was tea time TV as well. Throwaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Because modern "high end" TV is so much more sophisticated, serious, complex, realistic, relatable and cathartic. And when I watch it, it makes me feel sophisticated too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It just makes me horny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 That's the real reason people watch this filth but they're too bashful to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 "Girl Meets World" S1 and S2Most of the new characters are annoying (especially Farkle and Riley's younger brother), but the returning characters from Boy Meets World are still just as endearing to revisit here -- big kudos for original creator Michael Jacobs returning. The parallels between the two shows are a bit redundant (Riley and Maya = Cory and Shawn), but that's part of the charm.Ultimately the episodes that center on BMW characters or delve into deeper themes make the show worthwhile. More episodes like "Girl Meets Home for the Holidays", "Girl Meets Gravity" and "Girl Meets Mr Squirrels Goes to Washington" please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Because modern "high end" TV is so much more sophisticated, serious, complex, realistic, relatable and cathartic. And when I watch it, it makes me feel sophisticated too.It's all about the eating test my friend. If a show can be watched while chewing on a meal then it's deemed light entertainment at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 All I'm saying is for years BBC 2 aired Star Trek TNG in the teatime slot. It got decent ratings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I know, i used to watch it on the Beeb.Your point still escapese though, since TNG was quality TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It was easily consumable TV. Aren't all soaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 TNG wasn't a soap, it was episodic TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You guys only call this the "golden age" because you're snobby old weirdos who want to impress others with your trendy edginess!It's because character driven and socially themed cinema has moved from cinema to television. And that's where it belongs (film can never compete with that due to its limited length)! Renaissance TV is for people who don't want to sit in a theatre filled with teens watching explosions. People are calling it the Golden Age because TV has finally matured. The quality has never been as high as in the last 15 years. Television isn't just the new film, it's the new novel. - Mary McNamara, Los Angeles Times Television CriticAlex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's because character driven and socially themed cinema has moved from cinema to television.Beverly Hills 90210 was character driven and dealt with social issues. Remember Tori Spelling's character's decision to not have sex until she was married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's because character driven and socially themed cinema has moved from cinema to television. Alex - still dreaming of JWfan Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's because character driven and socially themed cinema has moved from cinema to television. And that's where it belongs (film can never compete with that due to its limited length)!The limited length of film is an asset. It allows a storyteller to create a taut narrative that gets to get to the point. But I've found that this serialisdd television trend has forced stories to become drawn out and padded when they could have wrapped up in a few episodes. And character development? If only they'd make characters interesting and likable, rather than these repellant so-called "anti-heroes" that are so revered today.And back in the 90s, we had complex dramas like The X-Files that not only pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable on network TV, it was led by a two likable and charismatic characters who you could get behind. We need more Mulders and Scullys and fewer Walter Whites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 The point? Character development is continuous and ever-changing. There is no point. And unlike film, TV has the luxurious freedom to take full advantage of that. It's precisely because TV has time that they can experiment and go much further and deeper than would be possible in movies. The result is that characters of TV today are a lot more interesting and complex than anything we see in the concrete multiplexes. I think it's silly for movies to even try and compete with TV today. Film should concentrate on things that TV cannot do and by that I don't mean explosions or minecart races. Mulder and Scully had charisma and they appealed to a broad audience but they weren't exactly interesting. It simply wasn't that kind of a show. It mainly dealt with aliens, conspiracy theories and postponing the first kiss between two main leads. After a while it got quite boring and extremely repetitive, IMO. Needless to say, I gave up on it. The X-files isn't the new novel. It's throwaway, ordinary, shallow TV, just like Lost.Of course, I don't expect a Buffy The Vampire Slayer/Stargate SG-1/Xena: The Warrior Princess fan to understand this, Drax. It's only natural that the evolution and maturity of television is a threat to you. You hate what you don't understand. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You just fear a resurgence in actual good TV like The X-Files/Buffy/Stargate etc.Cinema went through this "OMG it's so realistic and gritty and relatable" trend in the 2000s (must have been all that annoying post-9/11 shit), but that seems to have blown over, and Hollywood is willing to have some fun again. But the "gritty and depressing" seems to have slithered its way into television, generating enormous amounts of praise, but it will only go on for so long. In fact, I think it's already peaked in popularity. And TV audiences will soon demand that stations make shows that make it feel good to fire up the tube again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm sorry Drax, but as long as you watch The Bold and the Beautiful I just can't take you seriously on this matter. But look on the bright side: I frequently enjoy your FB rants and sideways observations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You watch Strictly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It's because character driven and socially themed cinema has moved from cinema to television. Alex - still dreaming of JWfan ProIt exists, we just haven't invited you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 We do not talk about JWFanPro with the uninitiated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You watch Strictly!Yeah sometimes I do and I know exactly what it is - forgettable light entertainment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm sure Jerry feels the same about the Bold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 If he did it's besides the point when he watches it in the first place. B&B makes Strictly and X-Factor look like the latest Dennis Potter adaptation, it's that awful. It's truly the dreck of TV land! If he said he watched Jeremy Kyle in the mornings I'd have more respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 B&B is an entertaining show that isn't afraid of taking the piss out of itself at times. It's really the most self-aware daytime soap I've ever watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Jeremy Kyle is great! The way he deals with important social issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 B&B is an entertaining show that isn't afraid of taking the piss out of itself at times. It's really the most self-aware daytime soap I've ever watched.Remember Passions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Oh that was fantastic in its awfulness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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