Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Inspired by skyy38's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What criteria are we using to decide on our vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The gut feeling of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 What criteria are we using to decide on our vote?Your heart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 The criterion is the correct answer, which is Leia's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 What's the question in this poll?Do we select our favorite? Our least favorite? The best one? The most Star Warsy one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So its the best and worst one? Your favorite and least favorite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 What's the question in this poll?Do we select our favorite? Our least favorite? The best one? The most Star Warsy one?The best one between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Anakin's theme is great, but obviously Leia's theme is best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Leia's Theme is still best of the romantic lyrical themes in SW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Inspired by skyy38's post.So am I right in thinking you also partially agreed with skyy38's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yeah. Anakin's theme is some solid writing, and the nod to Vader in the descent is very clever, but I found there was always something a bit 'off-key' about the structure of the melody. Maybe it was by design, but I just find it strangely musically unsatisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It feels unfinished, which was probably the point if JW had intended to develop it further in the next 2 films.But he didn't. So it's kind of unsatisfactory in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,656 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Somewhat unfair of a comparison. Leia's theme is arguably not only the best theme of SW; it may well be the best romantic piece of the 20th century. So, yes Leia's theme is better, but that says very little about the quality of Anakin's theme, which is a nice child-like string piece with overtones of a more serious nature. If it means anything, I like Anakin's theme over the luke/leia sibling theme, which I find a bit too insistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 It feels unfinished, which was probably the point if JW had intended to develop it further in the next 2 films.But he didn't. So it's kind of unsatisfactory in that respect.I literally mean the progression of the notes and how they feel uncanny to me, sort of melodically unhinged. Maybe that's its genius, but it doesn't completely work, imo. I still appreciate and quite enjoy the piece though. It's fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 No competition. Never really liked Anakin's theme, clever connections or not.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I've always loved that passage starting at 00:50 in Anakin's theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 In Anakin's theme, there is dignity, honor, freedom, and beauty... all that I could ask of music, but my heart is still a prisoner of the past. I... I cannot choose now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 You need to watch The Ten Commandments.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Anakin's theme by definition would not contain aspects of freedom and dignity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 To me, Anakin's theme is innocent, gentle and pleasant. Leia's theme is lyrical, sweeping and beautiful. Although they're both leitmotivs, they don't try to represent the same qualities in their characters, who are themselves completely different from each other. As such, it's hard to compare their function within the score.On a strictly aesthetic basis, Leia's theme is more musically interesting and catches my ear much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Who cares? its just a parody of a line from a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 That's only in the End Credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Anakin's theme is great.But Leia's theme is one of the best in all of film music history.Of course, that doesn't mean Anakin's theme is less good at what it's supposed to be. The chromatic "tilt" to the melody is spot on, I think. And it also doesn't mean that I agree with the original post. Williams' style has changed gradually through the years, and you can hear clear traces of TPM to be in scores like Last Crusade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Somewhat unfair of a comparison. Leia's theme is arguably not only the best theme of SW; it may well be the best romantic piece of the 20th century. Now now, let's not cheapen it with grandiose overstatements. It's beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I find plenty to enjoy in both compositions, which are testaments of Williams' amazing skill as a composer of short well-developed pieces that actually go beyond their mere filmic nature. So I really cannot pick one over the other.Of course Leia's Theme speaks to the child inside me, as that score is what introduced me to his art and to the art of film music itself, but Anakin's Theme is such a good piece of music that I cannot simply dump out even if it's just a poll game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Leia's Theme hands down. So damn powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Han Solo and the Princess (the theme, not the specific track) > Leia's theme > Anakin's theme = all great Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only Marcus and I voted for Anakin's Theme?This forum has gone off the deep end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I think most (if not all) of the themes in the OT are "superior" to the PT. At least, I enjoy the OT themes more the PT themes, even though none of them are bad by any means. I'm wondering if Anakin's theme would have had more impact if Williams had used it and developed it more throughout the PT instead of directly using Vader's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Only Marcus and I voted for Anakin's Theme?This forum has gone off the deep end! It's got an interesting contour to it, but doesn't really flourish that I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Anakin's theme is underrated. I wish it had been developed through the latter two prequels. I assume that was Lucas' decision and not Williams'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 To me, Anakin's theme is innocent, gentle and pleasant. Leia's theme is lyrical, sweeping and beautiful. Although they're both leitmotivs, they don't try to represent the same qualities in their characters, who are themselves completely different from each other. As such, it's hard to compare their function within the score.On a strictly aesthetic basis, Leia's theme is more musically interesting and catches my ear much better.Williams' genius move in STAR WARS was the decision to forego Ben's Theme in favor of Leia's Theme when Ben gets cut down by Vader.It is both sad and yet, still swashbuckling at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 1-Han Solo and the Princess (concert version)2-Yoda's Theme3-Princess Leia's theme4-Anakin's theme5-Luke and Leia6-Across the Stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Anakin's Theme is probably harmonically a bit too slippery - by design - so most listener's instinct tells them the to go with the precious romantic crowdpleaser. While i love the construction of the concert version of Leia's Theme, i don't find the main melodic line that appealing but that also goes for Ilia's Theme from ST, two of those late 70's pieces i just find a bit too ripe to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Agreed. I just prefer Can You Read My Mind to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Great lyrics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I fucking hate the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I can't listen to Love Theme From Superman The Movie without hearing those lyrics."You can fly...you belong in the sky!"Pure poetry mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 And, "Can you read my mind? Do you know what it is you do to me?" *borks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyy38 21 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I can't listen to Love Theme From Superman The Movie without hearing those lyrics."You can fly...you belong in the sky!"Pure poetry mate!"I can't wait till you eat my pie!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I can't listen to Love Theme From Superman The Movie without hearing those lyrics."You can fly...you belong in the sky!"Pure poetry mate!"I can't wait till you eat my pie!"That last line was not mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Broken quote system is broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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