The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'm just reading the abstract of THE ART AND CRAFT OF JOHN WILLIAMS. There is an interesting info, I didn't know.Sorry, if it was discussed before.On page 22:Hook is a film directed by Steven Spielberg that tells the magical story ofPeter Pan, but from the perspective that he’s now grown up and needs to rememberhis past in order to save his children. John Williams had originally collaborated onthe project to make it a stage musical, but that was cancelled and then was taken onas a screenplay. So many creative minds worked on the development of the film thatit was disappointing to many critics how mechanical the story seemed, and that itlacked Spielberg’s typical touch. Fortunately for Williams, his score was a hugeredeeming feature of the film and critics responded very well to its whimsicality androbustness.Many aspects of the score style show how Williams was trying out new ideas.Some of the unfinished music he composed for Hook became part of some of hislater scores such as Jurassic Park and Harry Potter. (...)My question is: Which parts from Jurassic Park and Harry Potter are music from the unfinished Hook musical? Which sequences?Also it is stated as "such as". There are still parts on other scores? And how it is possible to listen to the unfinished music? I thought there is nothing recorded besides a few songs? Maybe the sheet music?Unfortunately, there is no reference for that statement. Can anyone help me? Jason?Source: https://ir.library.oregonstate.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1957/22075/Final%20Thesis%20-%20Danae%20Lincoln.pdf?sequence=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 You could be right. But unfinished music from Hook? OK, if we say you are right, which unfinished music from Hook is mentioned? There is also nothing recorded. Keep in mind that the abstract is from 2011, so the only source is the original OST from Sony or maybe the sheet music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 He's saying that unused/abandoned music from Hook was later used for Jurassic Park and Harry Potter. While Williams' musical style is similar in all three of these scores, there's absolutely no proof of this, at least that any of us have ever heard. I don't remember a huge deal ever being made about unused Hook music showing up in Jurassic Park or Philosopher's Stone...and it would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 He's saying that unused/abandoned music from Hook was later used for Jurassic Park and Harry Potter. While Williams' musical style is similar in all three of these scores, there's no proof of this.If there is no proof, then this abstract is forgettable. Every abstract you have to quote the ideas from other authors. Otherwise if there is a thesis, it should be mentioned. It reads like there is a proof. "became part of" doesn't sound like a thesis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Of course, we didn't know that musical numbers for Hook had been filmed until fairly recently either, so who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Trilogy 39 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Don't get me wrong, but the author seems toally convinced the later scores originated from Hook.I thought it was referred to the musical because it was saying "unfinished". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Well, I'm unaware of any sheet music of Hook cues that were never recorded existing, so I dunno where this author is getting his info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 This sounds highly dubious to me. The thesis does not present any references to the source of this information, which it absolutely should. As it is, the information is off-handedly presented in a single sentence and not elaborated further with any evidence. It could well be pure conjecture on the writer's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Agreed. Sounds like pure conjecture because the author may hear a stylistic similarity between the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 I could imagine "My Friend the Brachiosaurus" having lyrics. or even the main theme. but if that were the case they probably would have made it into the final Hook score, as instrumental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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