Quintus 5,399 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Better than the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Interstellar's Stay would have worked with this scene. Besides, there's James Newton Howard in that Zimmer clip you posted.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 He, he....well, it's a nice 'boyroom' experiment, but hardly more than that. There's so much going on in Williams' music here in terms a) synch points, b) themes with narrative signficance and c) instrumental choices that heighten the specfic moments that a random cut-and-paste job like this doesn't work that well.But if it had been edited more cleverly to hit synch points and avoid Williams' music seeping through when the dialogue comes in (allowing for some weird dissonance), then maybe it would have been an interesting alternative take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Whatsisface Eno prefers this version I'll have you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This is pretty much the worst thing in existence. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Shouldn't this be ET by JNH?Edit: I see croc already got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Better than the original? Better than one of the best marriages of music and film ever? Mmmm . . . not quite.It's interesting. It's fun how it fits in some places. But watching it as a whole is a downer. Makes it look like the composer (in the suggested alternate universe that this takes place) mistook Spielberg's masterpiece as a noir film. It's all about the sadness, with none of the victorious elements that inspired the real score.If nothing else, however, this little project only increases my love for the actual work that much more—something I wasn't sure was possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yes, that is a good point (and it was kind of baked into my previous argument). The scene is all about BITTERSWEETNESS, i.e. the combination of sadness and warmth. The track above only does one of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP will love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP won't watch it. TGP doesn't believe in rescoring, no matter how boring the original thing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why does TGP talks about TGP as if he wasn't TGP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP used to be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 No he didn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP used to be cool! Are you suggesting that now he's hot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 TGP used to be cool! Are you suggesting that now he's hot?I am hot, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 He's neither hot nor cool. Lukewarm, just like a modern Zimmer score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Better than overcooked like an 80s Williams syrup-fest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Better than overcooked like an 80s Williams syrup-fest!Mmmmmmmmmmm... Syrup-fest... Bilbo and Dixon Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,346 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 But if it had been edited more cleverly to ...... and avoid Williams' music seeping through when the dialogue comes in (allowing for some weird dissonance).That has very little to do with editing, and more to do with the fact that no-one has the original dialogue without music underneath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Please, internet, stop removing the music from E.T. or, worse, replacing Williams with Zimmer. I can't take this shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks for desecrating a classic movie scene Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Either people really hate ET or they're demonstrating their love for it by showing how inferior music can hurt a film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Either people really hate ET or they're demonstrating their love for it by showing how inferior music can hurt a film.And the black and white version of Raiders with electronic music was a statement about the Blu-ray transfer with the screwed up colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I hate that piss yellow tinge on Raiders. Couldn't they have just used the 2003 master like they did for TOD and LC? Those looked fine on BD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 But if it had been edited more cleverly to ...... and avoid Williams' music seeping through when the dialogue comes in (allowing for some weird dissonance).That has very little to do with editing, and more to do with the fact that no-one has the original dialogue without music underneath.True, which is why such a project is almost impossible. At least untill an isolated dialogue/SFX track emerges.I'm all FOR such projects, though, if they're edited cleverly and not just pasted in with one or two random hit points (incidentally, such random hit points will occur naturally when you put anything against anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,684 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Interesting experiment, but for me it makes the scene depressing. No longer about the child-like anguish - it has far too mature a tone.A valid attempt musically, but completely wrong for the tone of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'm all FOR such projects, though, if they're edited cleverly and not just pasted in with one or two random hit points (incidentally, such random hit points will occur naturally when you put anything against anything).But that's what makes it fun most of the time—the way music from one source matches up uncannily with the visuals from another. For instance, I set the scene where Bilbo wakes up at Bag End, and then chases after the dwarves, with music from about 10 other films (Galaxy Quest, The Last Starfighter, Batman and Robin, and John Goldfarb, Please Come Home, among others). The results were often hilarious, and, like I said, ironically appropriate. (I have become solidly convinced that the music from the Back to the Future trilogy can be made to fit just about any movie.) It was something my kids and I had a good laugh over. But that's when this kind of thing usually works best: when it's a tongue-in-cheek romp. I'm don't think it would be nearly as fun to try to seriously rescore a scene . . . unless it's to a movie with a score that genuinely sucks, and you're recasting it with a Williams or Goldsmith classic, thereby improving it in a way it probably doesn't deserve. Maybe then.But redoing a masterpiece with a lesser work, as the E.T. video attempts to do? Nah. I don't see much point to that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm all FOR such projects, though, if they're edited cleverly and not just pasted in with one or two random hit points (incidentally, such random hit points will occur naturally when you put anything against anything).But that's what makes it fun most of the time—the way music from one source matches up uncannily with the visuals from another. For instance, I set the scene where Bilbo wakes up at Bag End, and then chases after the dwarves, with music from about 10 other films (Galaxy Quest, The Last Starfighter, Batman and Robin, and John Goldfarb, Please Come Home, among others). The results were often hilarious, and, like I said, ironically appropriate. (I have become solidly convinced that the music from the Back to the Future trilogy can be made to fit just about any movie.) It was something my kids and I had a good laugh over. But that's when this kind of thing usually works best: when it's a tongue-in-cheek romp. I'm don't think it would be nearly as fun to try to seriously rescore a scene . . . Maybe not in a 'party trick' kind of way, but if I'm to take it seriously (and God knows I'm extremely serious), I much rather prefer an alternative approach that has been carefully worked on to fit as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Do all Norwegians have a Vulcan like attitude to life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Did he mention it's really just a patchwork of the same junk from the first two scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,493 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Do all Norwegians have a Vulcan like attitude to life?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Did he mention it's really just a patchwork of the same junk from the first two scores?No, because it's not true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Correct. It's not. But I can see how it seems that way if you're a dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Correct. It's not. But I can see how it seems that way if you're a dumbass.Double dumbass on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Correct. It's not. But I can see how it seems that way if you're a dumbass.Double dumbass on you!Nice colorful metaphor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The hell it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 You play games with me, mister, and you're through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I am? Can I go now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I don't think these kids can steer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This thread is boring now. I'm bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Is KK an anti-Trekite bastard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Exactly!Star Trek is BOOOOOORRRRIIINNNGG!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Tolkien's pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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