Faleel 5,278 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well, Now I can join the ranks of JW fans who have heard this connection now, I have finally heard the statement of the Throne Room theme in The Fleet Enters Hyperspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 @ 0:57 @ 0:56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Huh?Compare 1:28 of Track 11 of Disc 2 from the Stars Wars Special Edtion to 7:46 Track 3 of Disc 2 from Return of the Jedi Special Edition.It was mentioned in the liner notes, I just never really was able to hear it in the track.EDIT: Ninja'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 It's astonishing how much music your brains can store (and how detailedly, depending on your concentration whilst listening to it and the amount of repeated listens) - instead of listening to the cue again to get the reference, I just went through it in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Yep. Surprised Wojo didn't know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,235 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I didn't realize until now either, and I must have listened to that cue at least a few hundred times since it was released... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,615 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Doesn't Lukas Kendall point it out in the 1993 anthology boxset notes? If not, Matessino surely does in the 1997 notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 If not, Matessino surely does in the 1997 notesyep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Ah yes I have to thank Matessino's excellent liner notes for pointing the reference out back when I got the RCA Victor releases of the SW scores.Nice that you finally "heard the light" Faleel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I never read the 1997 notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I love how Williams twists that Walton/Elgar-esque march and turns into an angular quartal motif that wouldn't sound out of place in a piece by Janáček, Bartók or Hindemith. Fleet Enters Hyperspace is an amazing cue, from those insane planing trumpet triplets, to the final fanfare - BM7/E to E/D. Incanus and Jilal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Can't hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I love how Williams twists that Walton/Elgar-esque march and turns into an angular quartal motif that wouldn't sound out of place in a piece by Janáček, Bartók or Hindemith. Fleet Enters Hyperspace is an amazing cue, from those insane planing trumpet triplets, to the final fanfare - BM7/E to E/D.It used to be my favourite cue from the OT - that final fanfare is magnificent. The planing trumpet chords remind me of mm. 50-52 in EMPIRE's R8P2 "City in the Clouds". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I love how Williams twists that Walton/Elgar-esque march and turns into an angular quartal motif that wouldn't sound out of place in a piece by Janáček, Bartók or Hindemith. Fleet Enters Hyperspace is an amazing cue, from those insane planing trumpet triplets, to the final fanfare - BM7/E to E/D.If I remember correctly Johnny uses similar trumpet triplets in Grievous and the Droids in RotS as well although the effect is not as electrifying as in Fleet Enters Hyperspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I love how Williams twists that Walton/Elgar-esque march and turns into an angular quartal motif that wouldn't sound out of place in a piece by Janáček, Bartók or Hindemith. Fleet Enters Hyperspace is an amazing cue, from those insane planing trumpet triplets, to the final fanfare - BM7/E to E/D. It used to be my favourite cue from the OT - that final fanfare is magnificent. The planing trumpet chords remind me of mm. 50-52 in EMPIRE's R8P2 "City in the Clouds". For me it's Attacking a Star Destroyer. City in the Clouds is a bit more dreamy/impressionist with its planing augmented triads. I love how Williams twists that Walton/Elgar-esque march and turns into an angular quartal motif that wouldn't sound out of place in a piece by Janáček, Bartók or Hindemith. Fleet Enters Hyperspace is an amazing cue, from those insane planing trumpet triplets, to the final fanfare - BM7/E to E/D.If I remember correctly Johnny uses similar trumpet triplets in Grievous and the Droids in RotS as well although the effect is not as electrifying as in Fleet Enters Hyperspace. This is the bit from ROTS that reminds me of Fleet Enters Hyperspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't hear it, either, but I hear it in "Into the Trap," but maybe I'm just hearing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't hear it.Just hum 1:28-1:33 of The Throne Room really fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 I don't hear it.Just hum 1:28-1:33 of The Throne Room really fastI'll try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJH132 47 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 It's been there all along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,081 Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 For me it's Attacking a Star Destroyer. Definitely one of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 There are similar things at 3:52 of The Death of Yoda and 2:27 of Leia is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel? Does anyone else hear this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,442 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Well, Now I can join the ranks of JW fans who have heard this connection now, I have finally heard the statement of the Throne Room theme in The Fleet Enters Hyperspace.Yeah, and I've heard that "The Imperial March" is all over "Return Of The Jedi", which only goes to show that JW is a third-rate hack who doesn't deserve to lick Hans Zimmer's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Well, Now I can join the ranks of JW fans who have heard this connection now, I have finally heard the statement of the Throne Room theme in The Fleet Enters Hyperspace. Yeah, and I've heard that "The Imperial March" is all over "Return Of The Jedi", which only goes to show that JW is a third-rate hack who doesn't deserve to lick Hans Zimmer'sWhat?Bread? Apples? Very small rocks? Cider.Gravy. Cherries. Mud. Churches? Lead! Lead! A duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 There are similar things at 3:52 of The Death of Yoda and 2:27 of Leia is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel? Does anyone else hear this?Could you elaborate? 3:52 in The Death of Yoda is a statement of the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 There are similar things at 3:52 of The Death of Yoda and 2:27 of Leia is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel? Does anyone else hear this?Could you elaborate? 3:52 in The Death of Yoda is a statement of the Imperial March.Just thought you should know he is using Anthology timestamps.He is talking about the rising deep strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I wonder how many of the London Symphony performers actually recognized the many, many times that Williams weaved his themes throughout these movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,442 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Probably a lot.I've also heard that a lot of the notes in the "Star Wars" scores were used in the Indiana Jones Flims. Copycat!Well, Now I can join the ranks of JW fans who have heard this connection now, I have finally heard the statement of the Throne Room theme in The Fleet Enters Hyperspace. Yeah, and I've heard that "The Imperial March" is all over "Return Of The Jedi", which only goes to show that JW is a third-rate hack who doesn't deserve to lick Hans Zimmer'sWhat?Bread?Apples?Very small rocks?Cider.Gravy.Cherries.Mud.Churches?Lead! Lead!A duck.I'll let you complete that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Something similar occured to me some time ago, whilst listening to THE LAST CRUSADE. I suddenly noticed the violins play, in fact, the Raiders theme in pizzicato fashion at the beginning of FATHER AND SON REUNITED.(...)I can't seem to properly embed Spotify tracks. I converted the Spotify URL into an iframe link and tried inserting the latter into my post in various ways, but no such attempt appeared to be succesful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Looks like Spotify removed the "copy embed code" option, for some reasonhttps://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Desktop-Bring-back-the-quot-copy-embed-code-quot-feature/idi-p/1040308 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Hmm, is there a workaround of some sorts you can think of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 What you did was perfectly fine. You linked directly to the track in question.EDIT: I see you edited your post. Now it doesn't link to anything. It was perfect before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The same concept again: does everyone hear the Anything Goes melody played by the violin section at 1:56 in The Nightclub Brawl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 The same concept again: does everyone hear the Anything Goes melody played by the violin section at 1:56 in The Nightclub Brawl?Yep, that's an easy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 There are similar things at 3:52 of The Death of Yoda and 2:27 of Leia is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel? Does anyone else hear this?Yes yodas death quotes or 'foretells' the "dark side beckons"Qui-gon's and padme's funerals are similar to this also (the yoda cue),, specially because it has the force theme at the right spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,442 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There are similar things at 3:52 of The Death of Yoda and 2:27 of Leia is Wounded / Luke and Vader Duel? Does anyone else hear this?"Leia is Wounded"? is that the bit where she blows up the speeder-bike? Whoops! Just realized where this bit is. It's near the end, where she is...wounded There's a lovely, and subtle, statement of Luke's theme at the end of "Father/Son". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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