Jay 37,336 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Interesting - Mike Matessino didn't produce this - the album was produced by Robert Townson. MM was just involved with mixing tracks 17 and 18.EDIT: Mike Matessino just let me know he actually wrote the liner notes for this release! Great news!Hum... So does Midway count as one of the 2 upcoming Williams releases Mike said he worked on, if he didn't "produce" here?Yes, this is the title Mike referred to in my interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 389 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 This is going to be another Family Plot, which was surprisingly unsuccessful.Varese needs to up the ante on their hyperbolic promotional blurbs. Maybe throw in some pics of scantily clad women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Or that you can get 2 month free of charge access to some porn site if you buy a disc from them.I will drop Robert Townson an e-mail tonight with some ideas.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Tharp = rejected score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Purchased. Seems historical enough, and while I like the march that's on the Boston Pops album, I am familiar with nothing else of this score (other than the samples, which curiously didn't reference the main title march). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 For no apparent reason, here are the samples on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m58f9qmO9Js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Track 17 & 18 hmm Interesting, since both film-recordings were available in Stereo on a Japanese Version of the "Filmworks" Williams Album - maybe the Stereo-Tapes got lost back then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 shame they couldnt do this before tracks 17 & 18 got damaged-destroyed-lost.1998 could have been a good opportunity Track 17 & 18 hmm Interesting, since both film-recordings were available in Stereo on a Japanese Version of the "Filmworks" Williams Album - maybe the Stereo-Tapes got lost back then?the marches are tracks 19 & 20. sadly since what you said could have mean we had all in stereo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,998 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 If it sounds anything like Family Plot then I'm really not bothered.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 just for the record, 2069 copies still on varese's warehouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Hmmm. It could well last a month...I do hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Will this go up at Amazon at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,117 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 just for the record, 2069 copies still on varese's warehouse.What the hell's the matter with people? If this were a Goldsmith title it'd be sold out by now. Family Plot as well. That score is unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Maybe ill get this at christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 This wasn't one I particularly wanted. Hell, I expected it. But I'll take it.I have the re-recording and Boston Pops CDs. Interesting that the released tracks from rare Japanese Filmworks are still necessary to own for true stereo?? I figured with a complete release I could now totally avoid seeking that one out.Anyway, bring on more Universal JW scores. The best are yet to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The two tracks from the Japanese 45RPM LP, which are the same tracks on the Filmworks compilation, are tracks 19 and 20 on this new Varese CD, not tracks 17 and 18.This release is as complete as it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,794 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 i dont understand how can spacecamp be sold out in 24 hrs, and family plot and midway still be 'in stock'.I mean the latter are two unreleased williams scores, spacecamp was just a remartered re-issue. You could have that in CD Quality beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Well, SpaceCamp was already rare before Intrada reissued. Plus, maybe that style of JW fantasy 80s score is just more popular than 70s drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 But SpaceCamp isn't a holly grail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissPadmé 17 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 The two tracks from the Japanese 45RPM LP, which are the same tracks on the Filmworks compilation, are tracks 19 and 20 on this new Varese CD, not tracks 17 and 18.This release is as complete as it could be.Ahh I got it wrong... I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 But SpaceCamp isn't a holly grail.SpaceCamp is a nostalgia thing for a lot of people though...at least it is for me. That movie came out when I was six and I loved it as a kid...kind of like The Goodies. Regardless, Family Plot is terrific and I just ordered Midway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Spacecamp is also a bloody marvellous score. I'm as surprised as anyone that Family Plot didn't sell out immediately, but that doesn't change the fact that there's a magic and mystique surrounding Spacecamp that I'm sure contributed to the fast sell-out time. It really is one of the "Holy grails" of Williams scores despite Ro's claim to the contrary (no offense intended). The "grail" status is mainly due to its ridiculously hard-to-find release on a Japan-only label. I was lucky (stupid?) enough to win one of those original Japan CDs on e-bay about 11 years ago. It's still a treasured posession. I've never seen the film, but I've adored the score since I first bought the vinyl back in the early 90s. It has a real sense of wonder and magic to it. It may not be one of Williams' absolute best scores, but it's one of his most heartwarming and dreamlike. It's also one of my absolute favourites.Midway: Ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Hooray! Ordered, plus Mimic and The Thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Interesting - Mike Matessino didn't produce this - the album was produced by Robert Townson. MM was just involved with mixing tracks 17 and 18.EDIT: Mike Matessino just let me know he actually wrote the liner notes for this release! Great news!Hum... So does Midway count as one of the 2 upcoming Williams releases Mike said he worked on, if he didn't "produce" here?I would say yes, it's one of the two.The other one should be a 90s score!!! i dont understand how can spacecamp be sold out in 24 hrs, and family plot and midway still be 'in stock'.I mean the latter are two unreleased williams scores, spacecamp was just a remartered re-issue. You could have that in CD Quality beforehand.I don't understand it either.But I will order Midway in the next couple of weeks. I think this one will last for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I always thought that the re-recording does sound good but is slitghly to "heavy".Meaning?While the tempis are very good the sound of the orchestra seems for me a little bit to forced in some cues.It's one of the best re-recodings one can get but I'm very happy that the original recording are released now.The Williams recording has some kind of clearer structure (based on the samples) and that's what I like.But I have to admit that Men of the Yorktown March sounds beautiful on the re-recording.Thank you for the clarification. I agree that the re-recording is great, hence my question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The "grail" status is mainly due to its ridiculously hard-to-find release on a Japan-only label. I was lucky (stupid?) enough to win one of those original Japan CDs on e-bay about 11 years ago.I just remembered I bought the Intrada release on ebay a few months ago and the price wasn't too expensive, I'm really lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyecks 33 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 This is awesome! Very happy. Picked up this, the Herrmann, and Mimic...... before the crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Another Williams release! But where will I hang the booklet? The previous one is still drying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 So does this mean it is available for purchase now? or is it pre-order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 It begins shipping on October 24th. The link in the very first post of this thread tells you that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I read that.....I was just wondering if they processed the order and stuff, right when you make it before october 24th, after you make it, right before october 24th, or ON october 24th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 People will just start randomly getting shipping announcements that week. I assume what is happening is their warehouse is just waiting for everything to come in from the pressing plants, and they expect everythign to be there that week, but it could be sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixie_twinkle 48 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The "grail" status is mainly due to its ridiculously hard-to-find release on a Japan-only label. I was lucky (stupid?) enough to win one of those original Japan CDs on e-bay about 11 years ago.I just remembered I bought the Intrada release on ebay a few months ago and the price wasn't too expensive, I'm really lucky Yes you are! I paid about $160 for the Japanese CD! (I needed a big comfort purchase at that dark time of my life) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 The "grail" status is mainly due to its ridiculously hard-to-find release on a Japan-only label. I was lucky (stupid?) enough to win one of those original Japan CDs on e-bay about 11 years ago.I just remembered I bought the Intrada release on ebay a few months ago and the price wasn't too expensive, I'm really lucky Yes you are! I paid about $160 for the Japanese CD! (I needed a big comfort purchase at that dark time of my life)This price makes that SpaceCamp is definitely a holy grail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,630 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 How about the music is great. Spacecamp is one of my favorite Williams scores outside of the big franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I might have some kind of emotional connection with Varèse.I found out that the label was to release Family Plot right after listening to the score's bootleg.Yesterday I was listening to the Midway re-recording and they announce the release of the OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Then please listen now to Hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Damn it Ricard. Why didn't you listen to Hook?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I think Varèse might have some kind of emotional connection with me.Right after the label released Family Plot, I listened to the score's bootleg.Yesterday they announced the release of the Midway OST and today I have been listening to the rerecording! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 wow amazing!um, for europe what shipping do i check?'Will call' (i dont know what this means) 0$UPSP 1st class 7.50$quick... i need to order! EDIT: never mind, checked family plot order, gotta pay those 7.50$ EDIT2: ordered!FYI: 'Will call' means you'll pick up in person from the Varese Sarabande offices in Studio City. In other words, they don't ship it to you, you pick it up. That's what I chose. Stop by on the way home from work and save seven bucks.Then please listen now to Hook.Or Jurassic Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 wow amazing!um, for europe what shipping do i check?'Will call' (i dont know what this means) 0$UPSP 1st class 7.50$quick... i need to order! EDIT: never mind, checked family plot order, gotta pay those 7.50$ EDIT2: ordered!FYI: 'Will call' means you'll pick up in person from the Varese Sarabande offices in Studio City. In other words, they don't ship it to you, you pick it up. That's what I chose. Stop by on the way home from work and save seven bucks.Then please listen now to Hook.Or Jurassic ParkThe Lost World. (Is not Enough ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Then Varese must strike an unemotional dissonance with me.How long's Family Plot been out? I can count how many times I've listened to it on two hands.In the interest of saving time, I'll just say I made a big zero with my hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So anybody have an idea how many copies are still left? Meaning, how many preorders VS has already gotten?I hope the supply lasts until the beginning of November... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Josh there are still 1825 copies available. Let's hope it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Oh okay. Btw, how do you see that?By pretending to order 2000 copies or so, like Miss Padme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Yes you can just go to the Varese site and put a large quantity into your basket, go to the check out and it will tell you that you can't order so many as they have just x amount of them left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 So they got 1,175 preorders in just 2 days?Impressive.Hopefully the rest isn't gone in 3 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well you could always take it as the initial rush of buyers that slows down after the first wave. Or it could sell like those proverbial hot cakes. Who knows. The comparison with Family Plot is a bit unfair since it was a pressing of 5000 units and still relatively obscure to the larger film music audience even if it is the last Hitchcock film score and one of the completely unreleased JW scores from the 1970's. If Midway was a 5000 CD pressing there would be a heck of a lot still left.In comparison with some obscure Jerry Goldsmith scores which sell out overnight, those 2 scores above should have sold out as well. For some reason JWs less famous scores, outside his SW and Indiana Jones type circle of fame, tend to stay in the warehouse a lot longer with few exceptions like Space Camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Well you could always take it as the initial rush of buyers that slows down after the first wave. Or it could sell like those proverbial hot cakes. Who knows. The comparison with Family Plot is a bit unfair since it was a pressing of 5000 units and still relatively obscure to the larger film music audience even if it is the last Hitchcock film score and one of the completely unreleased JW scores from the 1970's.Hmmm correct me if I am wrong, but the movie Midway is a lot less known than Family Plot. And both FP and Midway didn't have official releases before...5,000 units might have been too much, but I wouldn't be surprised if the first 3,000 copies of FP sold out in a matter of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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