Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 ALICE! WE'VE GOT ALICE HERE!See, everybody cares.She banished me. I don't care! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 John Carter - GiacchinoIt has some really wonderful tracks, and thematically it's very consistent.But I honestly have to almost force myself to pick the CD out of my collection and hit play.Don't know why because this is essentially a truly memorable score that I can enjoy on a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I listened to that today too. And I realized that I have yet to hear a score from Giacchino that sounds effortless. The main theme here starts promisingly, then falls into his usual two-chord scheme. It's like he couldn't figure out how to complete the phrase so you have two completely disparate things pasted together. I don't know. I like his music but you can feel him trying too much. It's not really flowing out of him. Feels very constructed.There are momentary exceptions, mostly in LOST. But nothing consistent. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 A smattering of John Barry including Frances, Hammett, Black Hole, King Kong and what there is of They Might Be Giants which I find particularly affecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,509 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 "ST:TMP".I really am at a loss to explain how epic, awesome, and just how damn moving, this score is, so I'll just post this:"Star Trek: The Motion Picture" is a very srtong candidate for the position of the greatest score ever composed. Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,992 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Some various pieces from Bond compilations, Hisaishi's Spirited Away (a copy of which I purchased today) and highly enjoyable The Boxtrolls by Marianelli.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 "ST:TMP".I really am at a loss to explain how epic, awesome, and just how damn moving, this score is, so I'll just post this:"Star Trek: The Motion Picture" is a very srtong candidate for the position of the greatest score ever composed. Discuss!I agree. Discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The Enterprise is one of the best tracks there ever could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Its very great, but if it lacks one thing, its action music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Klingon Battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Does every score need action music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 No.But TMP does lack it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 So does Schindler's ListAnd wouldn't you say that the one true action sequence in the film is properly scored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 And wouldn't you say that the one true action sequence in the film is properly scored?Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,184 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Klingon Battle! Spock Walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 That's more dramatic music, not action music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 The Motion Picture had barely any action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,184 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 That's more dramatic music, not action music. There's more action in Spock Walk than in Klingon Battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 While ST:TMP is undoubtedly a great score, it just doesn't hit me at a gut level like John Williams' scores in the same genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Better get your gut checked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 No, I agree with Mr Big. It's a wonderful, impressionist score, one of many that Goldsmith was churning out in the late 70s and early 80, but it does feel very detached. Dramatically the film is extremely pallid, and I don't doubt that Goldsmith had trouble getting into it-- the post-production fx problems only being half of it. Despite the huge orchestral and electronic forces and the many classic setpieces. There's plenty of craft, but no heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The Enterprise > everything Williams has done?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Meh, more like 64%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Return~Promise>Angela's Ashes>The Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 A.I.>CE3K>The Enterprise>the rest of JW's output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Most of John Williams Output>Miklos Rozsa's Output>Jerry Goldsmith's Output>James Horner's Output>A. I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Tread lightly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Iris by James Horner: Basically an extensive exploration of the danger motif in a lyrical form but fits this lovely sunny autumn day like a glove. There is soothing violin work by Joshua Bell and a graceful airy mood to most of this work scored mainly for piano, woodwinds violin, horns and strings. There is a subliminal Vaughan Williams's Lark Ascending mood to the whole piece but Horner does not outright quote the famous piece. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,326 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 How is it you've never heard Horner's scores at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I still don't think I ever listened to The Search For Spock. Whenever I get in the mood I go straight for Wrath Of Khan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Stealing the Enterprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,184 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 There are some things in life you just can't explain... Yes, but this requires an explanation. What of the other Goldsmiths? Or the Eidelman score? There's no good reason for never having heard any of those. I still don't think I ever listened to The Search For Spock. Whenever I get in the mood I go straight for Wrath Of Khan. The ouverture and end titles of Spock are very much worth it in addition to TWOK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,326 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've never heard the Eidelman score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's not even real film music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've never heard the Eidelman score.You can hear the choir chanting in Klingon decades before Gia did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I still don't think I ever listened to The Search For Spock. Whenever I get in the mood I go straight for Wrath Of Khan.And you should follow that up with Search for Spock. Because the one can't live without the other IMO. I will even say that while I enjoy Khan tremendously, it's Spock where Horner really shines. It has and always has been my friend... I mean my favourite of the two... Stealing the Enterprise is the best track Horner ever composed.NP: Once Upon a Forest - HornerThe magical qualities of Horner's 80s stylings (Willow) are very much present, but it's the song that bookends the album that sends me to film music heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I mean my favourite of the two... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,992 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've never heard the Eidelman score.He did Klingon chanting before Giacchino! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've never heard the Eidelman score.You can hear the choir chanting in Klingon decades before Gia did it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,992 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I've been Ninja'd by a Dutch!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 6 hours is not Ninja'd!Pay attention! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,992 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 When you've been daydreaming all day the times runs... slowly.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 gave The Black Hole a proper listen over. I don't have the expanded but what I have is enough for the time being. Into the Hole has always been a favourite chiefly for how the music shaped my feelings of the scene as a kid -the hellish visage involving Max Schell. In some ways the music doesn't seem right for such a film but I guess space movies/sci-fi isn't something you associate with John Barry (well, Star Crash I'm sure and others that I likely don't know). To my untrained ears there's a similar sound here to Moonraker/Raise the Titanic in the dramatic/dark moments (for example The Door Opens puts me in mind of RTT's Titanic "Rescue Attempt/Blowing the Tanks") but this doesn't take away from a great score. The heroic music is one of my favourite Barry pieces (i.e The Black Hole theme but it's use in "Laser").and all this after hearing Meco's Black Hole theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Small Soldiers - GoldsmithAn expanded album I made myself, from the recording sessions, 56 minutes long. Tremendous fun, creativity was still his greatest strength, even at this late stage in his career / life.I would buy an official expansion in an instant, but this will do very well until that happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Lion in Winter by John BarryFlesh + Blood by Basil PoledourisBlack Gold by James Horner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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