The 2014 Winter Boxoffice Thread

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Since I didn't do a summer boxoffice champion thread I thought I'd do the winter one.

I have included over 10 films, some with no chance. I've looked at Boxoffice mojo and their expectations and while I agree with some of their thoughts I don't in others.

I think the big question is will the Hobbit finish well or will it whimper to a conclusion, I expect the latter. But I've been wrong before.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

It will do very well.

[Bilbo 3,709]

I expect the Hobbit to break the billion dollar mark.

I wish the Hunger Games would go away.

[KK 3,307]

I believe so. Despite its decreasing popularity, it is still the last entry of a huge franchise. It will hit the billion dollar mark.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

it might do well enough internationally to make a billion but the Hobbit 2 didn't. I expect it to struggle just past 200 million in the US.

I expect Annie to be a horrendous boxoffice mistake.

Dave and I are looking forward to not watching Horrible Bosses 2.

[KK 3,307]

Well I usually judge by international gross anyway.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Everyone but American people do that!

[KK 3,307]

Strange.

Anyways, I think Mockingjay will make the most.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I don't care if you guys talk about international grosses KK, but the winner will be the one that makes the most here in the US.

the Hobbit is more popular outside the country than here. Maybe the last part will be a better told story than a film of excesses.

[KK 3,307]

Maybe the last part will be a better told story than a film of excesses.

I hope so Joe, but somehow I doubt that'll be the case.

[Wojo 2,453]

I skipped Hobbit 2 at the theater and everywhere else, I expect to skip the third one as well.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

well Stefan saw it enough to for each of us have seen it 7 or 8 times

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I saw it twice in the cinema

[JoeinAR 1,949]

key words everywhere else

[King Mark 3,631]

Those kind of films are meant to be seen in a theater

[JoeinAR 1,949]

is the ending of the Hobbit epic in the book?

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Dumb and Dumber To by a landslide.

[King Mark 3,631]

is the ending of the Hobbit epic in the book?

I never read it so the film can be as epic as it wants. It looks more like Dark Souls, The Movie now , so I don't mind

I saw a trailer of Exodus that basically showed the entire film. Looks like an oddly generic film

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Ive never read it either. I have it but I literally have not even opened the book. It was a gift.

[Faleel 5,345]

is the ending of the Hobbit epic in the book?

The ending is more epic than the beginning....

[King Mark 3,631]

Ive never read it either. I have it but I literally have not even opened the book. It was a gift.

I have it too sitting on my shelf. I was planning to read that and Divergent series but never got around

[JoeinAR 1,949]

is the ending of the Hobbit epic in the book?

The ending is more epic than the beginning....

not sure that means much

I don't even remember part 1

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

All these movies will tank. Hobbit 17 and Interstellar look boring. Hunger Games 28 looks like more of the same. The 1987 version was better anyway.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Mockingjay, followed by Night At The Museum 3.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I was thinking the same K.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Big Hero 6 won this weekend with 56 million.

Interstellar was a close 2nd.

[Jay 37,346]

I think Hunger Games 3 will make the most money in the US out of all these choices.

In 2012, Hunger Games 1 made $408 mil and Hobbit 1 made $303 mil

In 2013, Hunger Games 2 made $424 mil and Hobbit 2 made $258 mil

I think Hunger Games 3 will make even more than 2, and Hobbit 3 will make even less than 2

[JoeinAR 1,949]

I don't think Mockingjay will break 400. This year has been way down. Ever one who has read the books say it's easily the weakest part. Of course cinematically that can be corrected. Still if both Mockingjay and the Hobbit can just be as good as they can be then it's a win win for audiences.

It's not like this year's the biggest hits were bad films because they weren't.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

2014 isnt a stellar box-office year indeed.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

No but it's full of very good films

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

People decided to stay home and watch everything on bit torrent!

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Yes!

Ummm...

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Thieves.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

It's not stealing if they return the downloaded file by undownloading it.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Well there is still a chance Mockingjay will beat out Guardians but it's very slim. Mighty Interstellar has ZERO chance to make its expectations.

I have watched the night of Night of the Museum films and I think it's latest sequel to capture a large audience. But I'm baffled by the plunging boxoffice numbers. Movies are still great good bad. That will always be true. But we are in an era like the 50's and 60's and studios have too much say and real filmmakers have their hands tied.

I hope to do a 2015 domestic boxoffice thread and see how the numbers go.

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Did Interstellar at least break even?

[publicist 4,643]

Budget

$165,000,000 (estimated)

Gross

$592,845,319 (worldwide) (7 December 2014)

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

So nowhere near Batman or Inception box office? Those are Thor 2 type earnings!

[publicist 4,643]

So nowhere near Batman or Interstellar box office?

? Inception?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Sorry, Inception.

2008 to 2013 were truly record box office years, where even fairly mediocre films could break the billion mark (Iron Man 3, The Hobbit etc). Maybe it was 3D, the economic crisis etc, but people went to the cinema in droves.

Not so much anymore. And studios will now feel the back lash.

Whats left of the EPIC blockbuster year of 2015? We will see a lot of these very expensive films tank.

[publicist 4,643]

Hopefully. Most of them stink.

[Jay 37,346]

2015 is going to break Hollywood

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

Perhaps the fat, bulbous stomach of Hollywood is about to burst next year, unleashing a pool of festering sickness upon the movie goer, but afterwards....things may improve.

[Unlucky Bastard 7,782]

Didn't they push a lot of movies back to 2016?

[#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265]

I was wondering

[Wojo 2,453]

There are four or five movies on the marquee want to see. I'll be lucky to catch one.

[Jay 37,346]

Didn't they push a lot of movies back to 2016?

Actually yes, a lot of films originally slotted for 2015 have been changed to other years, far more than I had realized until I just started doing research!

All of these got pushed from 2015 to 2016:

Avatar 2

Finding Dory

Inferno

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice

Assassin's Creed

Independence Day 2

Kung Fu Panda 3

Smurfs 3

Wow!

And also Pirates of the Caribbean 5 moved to 2017 and Penguins of Madagascar moved to 2014.

[Koray Savas 2,251]

Penguins is already playing!

[Jay 37,346]

I never said it wasn't.

[JoeinAR 1,949]

Did Interstellar at least break even?

no. It's made 166 million. International grosses have helped some but it will like need nice home video to really see black. The marketing costs were huge and ineffective.