Brónach 1,301 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't think anyone is criticizing Scott's old stuff.sorry to hear you're dying. I know, it's just that among the films from him that I haven't seen is the one that I want to see the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 My thoughts on Nolan nose-dived after Inception. I'll still take modern day Ridley over him. Ridley is a much better storyteller, he knows how to spin a good yarn. Nolan is too obsessed with details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I don't remember much about memento except that I thought it was dull, and again not a fan of non linear story telling if it's dull. Guy Pearce is a very mediocre actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 I think Insomnia was good, if carried by the two central performances a little. Memento was fantastic, however. Pearce was brilliant, but there was a wonderful performance by Steven Tobolowsky in there that I love. Following is very good, as are the two Bat-flicks. And what I've seen of Inception was brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 In my book.Memento - goodInsomnia - okay (it was a long time ago)Batman Begins - goodThe Prestige - awfulThe Dark Knight - goodInception - okayI'm still waiting for a 'great' film from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm one of those awkward sods who prefers Batman Begins to The Dark Knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I wonder how Ridley will shoot it this time. With a camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 3D right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 3D right? Oh, I bloody, fucking, arseing, shitting, pissing, c**ting well hope not!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Vulgarity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 Apologies if I upset anyone with my last post, but my sentiments still stand. This 3D bandwagon has gotten out of control. Come on; "Yogi Bear" in 3D? Who needs it?! Please, Mr. Scott, do not make this film in 3D, I beg of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm one of those awkward sods who prefers Batman Begins to The Dark Knight.Same here. It's a lot less self-important, a bit more fun - if you know what I mean. TDK's too Michael Mann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm a huge Mann fan so that's probably why I think it's so great. But then again, I love Begins just as much. Although I think objectively TDK is the better film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 TDK's too Michael Mann.Indeed, and by doing so, it's too much a departure from Batman. At least, with Batman Begins, we get a story about Batman and one that is told from Batman's perspective. In my experience, TDK impresses more on the first date but disappoints during the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I hope TDKR is NOT like BB, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 TDK's too Michael Mann.Indeed, and by doing so, it's too much a departure from Batman. At least, with Batman Begins, we get a story about Batman and one that is told from Batman's perspective. But then that's the point, with escalation being the theme it's about Batman's effect on the city and its criminals, that it becomes a wider story, albeit with Batman still as the main focus. I'm sure the focus will be tightened on him in the third flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 As great as TDK was, I hope the third one is far less plotty and slightly less po-faced. But then this is Nolan, so I'm not hopeful.I'm sure it'll be a good time at the cinema nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I hope TDKR is NOT like BB, either If it is I won't waste my time watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted February 2, 2011 Author Share Posted February 2, 2011 I'm one of those awkward sods who prefers Batman Begins to The Dark Knight.I'm one of those awkward sods who prefers both.Karol - who's happy with the recent casting news for Prometheus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I hope TDKR is NOT like BB, either Best case scenario it'll take the best qualities from both films and combine them to make something unique but still apart of a whole. The title itself actually suggests this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 BB is boring as hell, and the action scenes are so pedestrian, it's clear that Nolan is not equipped to film action. Even TDK suffers from his inability to know how to shoot action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,034 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 BB is five times the film TDK is, in every category except quality of villains. Oh, and quality of score, since both are pretty equally...Zimmerish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I like both. I found TDK more surprising because it went all Michael Mann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 And a little bit James Bond (like Inception). And wasn't the first one (Batman Begins) already "surprising" compared to all the Tim Burton Batman movies? Anyway, it feels more authentic and less imitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Don't see much of James Bond in TDK actually. Apart from a few gadgets, but they have been a part of the Batman realm for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 And a little bit James Bond (like Inception). And wasn't the first one (Batman Begins) already "surprising" compared to all the Tim Burton Batman movies? Anyway, it feels more authentic and less imitated. Well it didn't really susprised me because I saw the Tim Burton movies after Batman Begins. What I like about BB is that it is a superhero film, as opposed to TDK. But it's less polished at times.I can see what you mean about the James Bond thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Don't see much of James Bond in TDK actually. Apart from a few gadgets, but they have been a part of the Batman realm for decades.Not much but some sequences reminded of Bond a little bit and I didn't even know Nolan was such a huge Bond fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Which Bond, the serious Daniel Craig version, or the comical Roger Moore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Not the actor but more the concept. Bale would make a good Bond in a James Bond film directed by Nolan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Bale would probably do a brilliant job in portraying the cold, calculated 007 as portrayed in the Ian Flemming novels. But directed by Nolan, please no.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 You don't to hear Hans Zimmer's take on Bond? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,301 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 We need to keep Zimmer away from Nolan. And from Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 You don't to hear Hans Zimmer's take on Bond? I don't need to, I can easily picture the Zimmer version in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 He'd bin the main theme off for a start because heroic fanfares are a thing of the past according to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 BB is five times the film TDK is, in every category except quality of villains. Oh, and quality of score, since both are pretty equally...Zimmerish.I'm glad I'm not alone in this point of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 We need to keep Zimmer away from Nolan. And from Scott.No, you need to keep Nolan away from Zimmer. So it ultimately doesn't matter who scores because all of Nolan's pre-Zimmer films feature the same kind of atonal atmospheric music by David Julyan.Ridley Scott dumped Zimmer a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 All this talk of "the talented Mr. Zimmer" reminds me; wasn't there another 2-note theme written in the mid-70s - this time for a rather large fish..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 All this talk of "the talented Mr. Zimmer" reminds me; wasn't there another 2-note theme written in the mid-70s - this time for a rather large fish..? williams worked, zimmers didn't, and John's was more than 2 notes when fleshed out, zimmers was noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 The difference being that that 2 (or actually 3) note theme was the backbone on which a lot of other musical aspects were hung on. Listen to the Main Title from Jaws and tell me that it's only "dum dum...dum dum...dum dum" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 I knew that I would take a lot of flack for my last post - I should have typed INCOMING!!! at the end or it. Of course, I'm writing in jest - no-one would dare criticize J.W.'s masterful and primal approach to the theme (especially after how Spielberg envisioned it...). It just goes to show what can be done with two (o.k., three) notes. Maybe this 2-note motif for Batman is exactly what Nolan wanted. Anyway, he seemed to like it enough to use it in his next 2 Batman films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 All this talk of "the talented Mr. Zimmer" reminds me; wasn't there another 2-note theme written in the mid-70s - this time for a rather large fish..? Ah yes! But it had interesting harmonies to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,973 Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Heck, even Signs does a whole lot more with its three notes. It's probably more anorectic score than Jaws, musically-wise.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 Heck, even Signs does a whole lot more with its three notes.Karol...and so does "Bride Of Frankenstein", and "Spartacus". I say again; my comments were made in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 one does not jest where Jaws is concerned. Williams was never more devilishly inventive. And imho only two score by the maestro equal or exceed Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Ridley Scott isn't a franchise man, he doesn't do sequels. Ahem; "Prometheus".He does, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Prequel, not sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,489 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Stefan, you're right; it is prequel, not sequel. I was too busy staring at your...avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Prequel, sequel, interquel, it doesn't matter.Koray pointed out that Ridley Scott isn't a "franchise man." Until Scott decided to return to the world of the xenomorph, this was true.Richard's comment is still correct. The fact this new film takes place before the Nostromo is reduced to tiny bits is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,324 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Hannibal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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