nightscape94 965 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The FCC doesn't regulate basic cable, either. I didn't mean to imply that they did, which is why I pointed out that HBO doesn't have advertisers to worry about. By implication, this was meant to reinforce why cable still needs to cut back at times.What is more interesting is that I recall reading an article where even HBO was worried about the sex and violence of certain shows because although they could provide even more explicit material, they choose not to out of concern of losing membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It fascinates me, I find some of the decision-making pretty bizarre ... for example I really don't understand why they think the Walking Dead's audience are fine with seeing zombies uber-gruesomely chow down on someone's innards but assume that if a character seeing same says 'FUCK ME!' in response, they'll be terribly offended.Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I find the same problem with nudity. As though a boob is worse than seeing someone eviscerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 The american censorship model of allowing incredibly brutal violence and graphic gore but not innocent naked flesh has never made sense to me or many other people. But it will probably take a long, long time to change still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I really don't understand why they think the Walking Dead's audience are fine with seeing zombies uber-gruesomely chow down on someone's innards but assume that if a character seeing same says 'FUCK ME!' in response, they'll be terribly offended.Oddly enough, this affected The Walking Dead in a very specific way. There is a quote in the comics where a variation of that word is used to great effect, and they used it as the last line in the season 4 finale , but had to change a particular word to "screwing". The show runner Scott Gimple mentioned that they would have loved to use the real phrase and actually considered it (they almost filmed it) but decided against it since it would never had made it based AMC's approval board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yea I don't get why the makers of any show airing on network tv or basic cable don't film things they way they want, and then make the compromised version for air and have the unrated version available on DVD/Blu. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I greatly enjoyed the first two episodes of Fargo.Like the movie, it's an odd thing, as the story is pretty incredible, and they tell it with little and great bits of humor, yet you feel wrong laughing watching it, and enjoying watching it, when you remember it's based on actual facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Think it's time to start this now that there's a True Detective shaped void in my tv viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,671 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I greatly enjoyed the first two episodes of Fargo.Like the movie, it's an odd thing, as the story is pretty incredible, and they tell it with little and great bits of humor, yet you feel wrong laughing watching it, and enjoying watching it, when you remember it's based on actual facts.Fairly sure this isn't actually based on fact. The film wasn't (closing credits have the usual 'fictitious' spiel).Anyway, I watched episode 2 this evening and loved it. Everyone is so perfectly cast. I can feel it slowly building up to something revealing Nygaard's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It's not based on actual events. That's only built into the beginning for effect. Cinematic license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Yea I don't get why the makers of any show airing on network tv or basic cable don't film things they way they want, and then make the compromised version for air and have the unrated version available on DVD/Blu. Oh well.Yeah. Some network shows get away with being censored, though, like Arrested Development. But then they kept that shit on DVD. Why?!Family Guy gets away with a lot too. Comedy Central lets Matt Stone and Trey Parker do whatever they want, although I believe Tom Cruise got the scientology episode banned from ever being shown on air again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 I believe Tom Cruise got the scientology episode banned from ever being shown on air again. Not even remotely true. Where do you come up with these things? The only episode Comedy Central hasn't aired again (or at least didn't air again for a while) was the second part of the two part episode about showing a drawing of Muhammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I probably read it somewhere at the time.Family Guy has had a couple episodes banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Yea, just by fox. They aired on cable and are on the DVDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 It's not based on actual events. That's only built into the beginning for effect. Cinematic license.It could still have been based on facts as I wrote, thus not wholly true yet rooted in actual events (mixed together, exaggerated, ...); very weird things do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Just watched the first episode of this. Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brown 91 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 FARGOCruised to episode 4 last night. Very good show. Looking forward to watching more. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Isn't it great? They really nailed the tone of it all, with some great characters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Is the Fargo movie required viewing before delving into the show? I'm one of the last few people alive who never saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 You should watch it regardless of whether or not this show even existed; It's a good movie and I'm sure you'd like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brown 91 Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Isn't it great? They really nailed the tone of it all, with some great characters too.Indeed. The cast is great. Thornton, Freeman, Hanks, Odenkirk, Carradine, and Tolman all help to make it deeply grounded in reality.Jeff Russo does a nice job of paying tribute to Burwell's score to the original film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brown 91 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Watched the latest episode of FARGO. Un-fucking-real. Can't wait for the finale. Then I'll start on TRUE DETECTIVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Isn't it great? They really nailed the tone of it all, with some great characters too.Indeed it is. It's the show I'm most into currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Fargo - Episode 9Wow. What a great episode. It was a welcome change in pace after the show started to slow down a bit. More people really should watch this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Watched the pilot episode of Fargo. Hey, this is actually pretty good.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm sure. It still seems that it is symptomatic of Hollywoods lack of new ideas.Tyhe Bates Motel, Hannibal, Fargo, all critically aclaimed, all basically riffing of a film or series of films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 That's why I didn't say "it's terrific" or "it's amazing". Coen brothers film is quite unique and the show extends that (without duplicating the storyline). That's it. Makes for a nice filler in between Game of Thrones seasons.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 That's why I didn't say "it's terrific" or "it's amazing". Coen brothers film is quite unique and the show extends that (without duplicating the storyline). That's it. Makes for a nice filler in between Game of Thrones seasons.KarolFARGO i like, GoT borders on unwatchable for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Fargo still stands on its own legs. I think you'll enjoy it Karol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Watched a bit of FARGO. Struggling to get into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Finished episode six of Fargo. It's definitely strong.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 In the Force? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 A lot of Midichlorians, yes.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Two more episodes of Fargo left. Did I mention that the score is actually to my liking? Not necessarily as something to listen to on its own, but otherwise very pleasant.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,218 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Just watched the last episode of this. Great stuff! Mostly. At first I made the mistake of watching it alongside True Detective (alternating between the two every episode or two), and I think Fargo suffered by comparison. I finished True Detective quickly and then got into Fargo properly. Tim Canterbury was great, as usual, and it was fun to see Saul Goodman and Wild Bill Hickok in supporting roles. One complaint about the ending, which I'll hide to be on the safe side: Martin Freeman's demise, while more spectacular, was no match for William H. Macy frantically trying to escape in his underwear through a motel window in the film. they think the Walking Dead's audience are fine with seeing zombies uber-gruesomely chow down on someone's innards but assume that if a character seeing same says 'FUCK ME!' in response, they'll be terribly offended. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,218 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The UK Office was just OK, but the finale was pretty good (and easily the best episode) The US Office season 1 was nothing that great, but then Season 2 was amazing, one of the best seasons of any comedy ever. During the FIFA World Cup last year, there was an article on Nate Silver's website FiveThirtyEight.com with the title "Lionel Messi Is Impossible". The gist of the article was to show, by examining various statistical data on the player's performances, that his abilities not only exceed those of all other current players, but do so in ways which would at first appear to be mutually contradictory - i.e., that he excels simultaneously in contrasting aspects of the game to a degree which hardly seems possible for a single player. It's for the same sort of reason that I think The Office (meaning the genuine Merchant / Gervais creation) is one of the all-time high points of television. On one hand, it conveys a sense of reality, in its characterisations, situations and dialogue, which is as naturalistic and convincing as anything I've seen in any fictional TV programme or film, and it has few rivals in this respect. Simultaneously, it manages to orchestrate a seamless stream of comedic beats, regularly building up to gut-wrenchingly funny climaxes; they have all the impact of the best sort of sitcom punchlines, while being conjured up out of exchanges which are thoroughly believable. The naturalistic aspect of the programme has the feel of something that could only be achieved through improvisation and trial-and-error, while the comedic rhythm and structure feels like the result of inspired and impeccable pre-planning. How these two opposing qualities were not only achieved, but brought off to such a degree of excellence and perfection, is something which has bewildered me since I saw the first series thirteen years ago. I've watched it countless times since and have been increasingly in awe of it. So, yeah: The Office is impossible. (I agree that the last episode is the best.) I like the US spin-off show (as it's called here, The Office: An American Workplace) well enough - or, at least, the four seasons that I've seen - but it's not even close to being impossible. The characters, the situations and the dialogue are all much more broadly drawn (I assume so, anyway - or is that what it's really like in America?), and much closer in style to a standard sitcom. Not that there's anything wrong with that; it just doesn't have the impeccable confluence of opposing qualities which make The Office such a brilliant masterpiece, nor is it nearly as funny as, say, Curb Your Enthusiasm. I have to say that the "Prison Mike" segment was one of the funniest things I've ever seen, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 The best seasons of The Office (US) were 2-4. After the writer's strike it was never the same, though there continued to be many highlights. The show didn't need to go on for 200 episodes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,218 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Ah - I think I'll stick with what I've got, in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well, the one good thing about the later seasons is that introduced a lot of new regular characters, and they were all really great characters. In fact the final season is easily the best of the post-strike seasons, the writers who left to run Parks and Rec came back for the final season and it was pretty good. Last episode is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I stopped after Season 3. Gervais understands moderation. It's the American way to drag a series out for ratings until it's shit and then cancel it and move on to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Intriguing.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnc3tuiXoiwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky0zBpmXHckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bND5phbOvEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Not watching it. I reserve that for when Netflix has the complete series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted July 21, 2015 Author Share Posted July 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFVNi8gUEy4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Tempting but not watching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Holy moly doly, what a cast for Fargo Season 2! This is going to rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 FX’s Fargo inverts the sophomore slump with a brilliant second seasonFour episodes watched for review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Only one episode to go and Netflix has aired all 10 episodes.Almost there ... Almost there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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