crocodile 7,984 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Giacchino is having quite a year, probably his biggest yet. What's really funny, two of his scores were attached to this years' biggest financial and critical flops, while the other two belong to films that won both audiences and critics. In his output, Michael continues to homage and honour film music tradition of cinema past. And, no matter your opinion on compositional skills, he does certainly make it work in modern context. He's a really skilled dramatist and storyteller.Which one of his score do you like best? And why?Will it be the massively ambitious space opera? A Horner-esque Disneyland tribute? His return to Jurassic Park franchise? Or a big-hearted reunion with the creators of Up? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quintus 5,399 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Not to be mean spirited but if this really is Giacchino's "biggest" year then it's pretty much confirmation to me that we're all doomed. I'm just saying. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Not to be mean spirited but if this really is Giacchino's "biggest" year then it's pretty much confirmation to me that we're all doomed. I'm just saying.For scores which are all fairly average at best.I don't see the fuss at all. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Not to be mean spirited but if this really is Giacchino's "biggest" year then it's pretty much confirmation to me that we're all doomed. I'm just saying.For scores which are all fairly average at best.I don't see the fuss at all.That's fair enough. But then, you've been saying something like this for more than a decade now. About pretty much every single score, Williams or not. And even if you did enjoy something, it was always followed by "still not as good as...(insert random score from 1980-1990's)". So it doesn't really mean a whole lot.And is irrelevant to this thread anyway. I'm not asking about the state of film music, how Giacchino compares to Williams, or whether you like his stuff at all. I'm asking which of his 2015 scores is the best.Karol Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't hate post 2000 scores at all, or anything not by Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't hate post 2000 scores at all, or anything not by WilliamsOK then list me great post-2003 scores then. Mine would probably include: Lady in the Water (Howard), Zodiac (Shire), Standard Operating Procedure (Elfman), The Aviator (Shore), The Good German (Newman), The Black Dahlia (Isham), All the King's Men (Horner), Interstellar (Zimmer), The Ghost Writer (Desplat) and Memoirs of a Geisha (Williams). Just picked one for each composer so it's more varied.Oh and Under the Skin. How could I forget this one?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,175 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 So far, I only know Jupiter Ascending from CD (Giacchino's best in a long time I believe) and Tomorrowland from the film (also promising). I'll get back to this thread in a couple of weeks when I get my SAE order with the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm still torn between Tomorrowland and Jurassic World. Tie vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I like Tomorrowland the best Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max 141 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I really enjoy them all, but if I had to rank them, it'd beJupiter AscendingJurassic WorldTomorrowlandInside OutI've listened to JA around 80 times so far (according to iTunes), so I'm far more familiar with that one than I am with the others. I also haven't had a chance to see Tomorrowland or Inside Out yet, as I was traveling abroad when they first came out, so I don't know those scores as well as I do JA or JW. I could see the order changing in time as I listen to the newer scores more and as I see the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I don't hate post 2000 scores at all, or anything not by WilliamsOK then list me great post-2003 scores then. Mine would probably include: Lady in the Water (Howard), Zodiac (Shire), Standard Operating Procedure (Elfman), The Aviator (Shore), The Good German (Newman), The Black Dahlia (Isham), All the King's Men (Horner), Interstellar (Zimmer), The Ghost Writer (Desplat) and Memoirs of a Geisha (Williams). Just picked one for each composer so it's more varied.Oh and Under the Skin. How could I forget this one?KarolGood list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm not a Michael Giacchino fan, is it against the rules for me to vote? Anyway, here's my ranking of his scores.1. Inside Out 3.75/52. Jurassic World 3.5/53. Jupiter Ascending 3/54. Tomorrowland 2/5Pretty unspectacular if you ask me. He's had many scores back to back so I guess that counts for something but quantity doesn't equal quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Just saw Inside Out. I think the theme finally clicked with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 If this is unspectacular, as you say, name me a composer who is having a better run these days. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 If this is unspectacular, as you say, name me a composer who is having a better run these days.KarolDesplat, Powell, James Newton Howard, and many, many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 If this is unspectacular, as you say, name me a composer who is having a better run these days.KarolDesplat, Powell, James Newton Howard, and many, many others.This year?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I haven't listened to any new Giacchino since STID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 If this is unspectacular, as you say, name me a composer who is having a better run these days.KarolDesplat, Powell, James Newton Howard, and many, many others.This year?Karol"These days" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 If this is unspectacular, as you say, name me a composer who is having a better run these days.KarolDesplat, Powell, James Newton Howard, and many, many others. This year?Karol "These days"Yes, but the thread is about 2015.John Powell had one really good score lately, James Newton Howard too (and I'm not a big fan of that one). Desplat is more talented than any of the above. But it's gone quite quiet in his front.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I would rate them as follows:INSIDE OUT - the most sympathetic due to its light and whimsy attire right out of Vince Guaraldi's CHARLIE BROWN-closet though it also harshly spotlights Giacchino's lack of depth, especially in later sections clearly meant to tug at the heartstrings. JURASSIC WORLD/JUPITER ASCENDING - reduced to some highlight cues they're on par; thematically JW is more robust, with some inventive orchestrations and the better score but there are some long flowing cues on JA that also figure. Both work best at a running time of about 45 minutes. TOMORROWLAND - Seems to register with fans for its overeager impersonation of colourful scores from a golden past - many themes in keys that at some point have been used in similar capacities by James Horner & Co. - but the cues tend to become really brutish - loud and frantic - and it may be the saddest of this list: there's a distinct feeling you are listening to the brand new iMusic emulator feeded with old Horner/Goldsmith/Broughton/Williams scores that are mathematically engineered into rigid musical program that isn't necessarily bad but it kind of gets me depressed (cue of note: 'Pin-Ultimate Experience').Though having seen not one of those movies i guess all work to some extents hidden behind images and sfx. As pure musical experiences i just can't find much reason to sit them through repeatedly - JW is the exception - and why should i: just because it's new film music? A hobby never should become a crutch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Tomorrowland might be a tad mechanical, true, but it also has one theme that stands tall above all other tunes Giacchino cooked up this year.I like Jupiter Ascending the most because, for once, it doesn't feel like a homage to anything else. It's pure Giacchino (not counting one track). For better or worse.Jurassic World is probably the best written music out of this bunch, with great secondary themes. But the main material is still lacking and it serves as a remainder how much better all three previous scores were. To me, anyway.Inside Out is heart-warming and pretty. But I can't really connect with it to a greater extent. Might be a tad too fluffy and cosy for my tastes (had the same problem with Up).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Well that's more or less what i was saying only that i don't see much reason to revisit let alone own either.But on the other hand there wasn't any stiff competition. If MAD MAX:FURY ROAD is the next choice, i gladly take Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I've listened to Tom Holkenborg's score more time then any of these by Gia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 In all fairness I never stated that I think the Fury Road score is better then any of Gia's four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So you made an assumption based on no evidence at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,984 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Better or not, you liked it more. It's a sin.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I voted for Jurassic World. It's the only one I've heard. Haven't heard it on CD though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 298 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 To my ears Tomorrowland is the most intriguing followed by Jurassic World. I first heard the Tomorrowland theme during a special preview at Epcot this summer and while it's not a "great score" it definitely is a fun summer score with a sense of magic. It's difficult for me to love a Jurassic score that isn't Williams even if that scores goal was to be reminiscent of Williams. Jurassic lacked a master's touch in my opinion. The other two scores didn't do much for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I need to catch up with these. I've been working through so many classic scores from the Golden Age of Hollywood that I seem to be forgetting about all the new stuff coming out these days—and then there was two weeks of Horner-only listening that pushed everything back further.Maybe I'll take a break from the past this week and focus on the present (and the future). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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