Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Bits from the trailers that didn't show up in the film and that may end up in the EE:1. Dwarves riding into attack on great battle rams,2. Some dwarves from Thorin's company ride on a charion over a frozen river3. Dwarf warriors shooting from giant ballistas4. Thorin's line "Everything I did, I did for them"5. Gandalf's line "You have to ask yourself one question: how will this day end?"http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?guest=126137237&do%3Dpost_view_flat%3Bsb%3Dpost_time%3Bso%3DDESC%3Bpost%3D805058=View+Flat+Mode#805058"Bilbo's right" is also gone but "you cannot see what you have become" is still there. "Those who survived and those who did not" is also gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Wow, they cut out a lot eh?Studios must have really been pressuring him cut it short... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeah, he obviously cut a lot since the trailers. I don't remember "When faced with death, what can anyone do" either but I could be wrong about that. Bard falling off the roof and sticking an arrow into the slates is gone as well I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Studios must have really been pressuring him cut it short...I'm thinking maybe the studio executives told PJ to "cut the crap out" and misunderstood what they meant by that...I don't think PJ can identify what's crap and what's not anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Well looks like the trailer didn't reveal everything like most trailers these days do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 They had so much extra footage that they decided they could do a 4th film lasting 2 minutes and 20 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Shh. Don't give PJ any ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Don't talk to it Bilbo. Don't encourage it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Incanus 5,714 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeah! Give us hope Bilbo! Give us hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Some shots looked CG other looked real. I imagine he's a mixture of both. I don't think I'd have known he was CGI if I hadn't be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Bilbo: What role does Radagast play in the film? How does Gandalf end up with Radagast's staff? Is Gollum mentioned at all? Is Old Bilbo shown at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Bilbo:What role does Radagast play in the film?How does Gandalf end up with Radagast's staff?Is Gollum mentioned at all?Is Old Bilbo shown at all?I am not Bilbo, but:#1 Small one, he gets a line, a user on Torn thinks his scene was shortened with ADR.#4 Yes, at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Shore 83 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The credits of the film are like ROTK? With Alan Lee sketches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The credits of the film are like ROTK? With Alan Lee sketches?Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes. Alex Shore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Cool!cool!cool!cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The credits of the film are like ROTK? With Alan Lee sketches?Yes.Yes.Yes.Yes.Dr. Mann? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Bilbo:What role does Radagast play in the film?How does Gandalf end up with Radagast's staff?Is Gollum mentioned at all?Is Old Bilbo shown at all?#1 Minimal. Gadalf contacts with Radagast in Quenya. He shows up with the sled at Dol Guldur and takes Gandalf to Rosgabel but Gandalf doesn't stay. He looks for a horse immediately. There probably is more to go here in the EE. #2 Never explained. He just has a staff when you see him ride off. #3 Nope.#4 Yes but I don't want to say anymore. I thought the way they included him was brilliant and brought a little tear to my eye but that's all I'm saying. The credits of the film are like ROTK? With Alan Lee sketches?Yes indeedy. The transition from film to credits is quite nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnald 365 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Pfff. I was predicting that scene ages before that. I also called Legolas riding a bat. That shit's just far too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 We are legion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Faleel 5,345 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 #4 Yes but I don't want to say anymore. I thought the way they included him was brilliant and brought a little tear to my eye but that's all I'm saying.It's funny that a TRON member predicted that scene more than a year ago!fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Who the fuck are you anyway? You don't have an avatar. You're a nobody.All the cool kids don't have avatars these days. Only wankers have avatars, especially Link ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Who the !@#$%^&* are you anyway? You don't have an avatar. You're a nobody.All the cool kids don't have avatars these days. Only wankers have avatars, especially Link onesWanna say that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 If you'd prefer I can substitute wankers for something more offensive?I see you've joined the Wanker Brigade Faleel. Sad times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Why do you make it sound like wanking is a bad thing?Wankers are losers. Real men get the real job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 3 for me but if I can make it 4 I will! #4 Yes but I don't want to say anymore. I thought the way they included him was brilliant and brought a little tear to my eye but that's all I'm saying.It's funny that a TORN member predicted that scene more than a year ago!Yeah, now that I've seen it I can't imagine it playing out any other way. It is, IMO, perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Bilbo:Does Benedict Cumberbatch have any lines in the film, as either Smaug or Sauron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://www.slashfilm.com/hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,220 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 If you'd prefer I can substitute wankers for something more offensive? Call him a "ninnyhammer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Hmm, that review seems to point out many of the problems I suspected this film would have.It seems with these films, PJ just shot a bunch of cool scenes and set-pieces, but didn't have a very good plan of how he was going to put it all together. And what you end up with are films that is just a string of scenes and sequences, but don't play as a good film.And unfortunately, this ultimately reflects in the scores, which play more as various action set pieces than the more unified wholesomeness of scores like RotK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://www.slashfilm.com/hobbit-the-battle-of-the-five-armies-review/Ouch! I'll be in for a world of pain tomorrow morning when I go and see this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 You too Mikko? Why must you Europeans always flaunt your privileges to our North American faces?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,714 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Blame Warner Bros and distributors for getting this so late. But for once it is this way around. Usually we are the ones to suffer!I am seeing this 2D btw. No gimmicks for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,307 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He did the best he could for the film. He scored some beautiful choral passages in between, but I just don't think there's enough emotional resonance in the content of the film for the music to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Plus, with the first disc the album producers seem to be focusing on the Gathering of the Clouds and Dragon Sickness music, and the action music in the second.(And it seems most of the music on the OST is the theatrical version music (Yes I am hoping that the EE music has some more character moment music!) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I thought there was plenty of emotion in the film myself. I hate Slashfilm so I'm glad I don't agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 152 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 One of the problems I have with this trilogy is that it's never clear who the real bad guy is, and therefore, what they are facing. In the first film Azog seems to be the main antagonist (personal issues with Thorin). In the second film he dissappears and the focus seems to be on the Dragon. Then again, the third film deals with Smaug in the opening sequence and we don't know what they are facing anymore, and it becomes a rehash of LOTR , with an army of trolls sent by Sauron once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Bilbo:Does Benedict Cumberbatch have any lines in the film, as either Smaug or Sauron?Yes, as both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,337 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Thanks Bilbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Greed! Azog, the Dragon, and all that are just manifestations of that!Or at least thats something like what I read on TORN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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