EdwardHall 30 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I was listening to Williams' score from "Far and Away" recently, and it occurred to me that I have never actually seen that film, nor have I ever seen "Heartbeeps," "Stepmom," "Spacecamp," or "Jane Eyre," yet I enjoy those scores immensely. Does anyone have a similar story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Angela's AshesThe FuryMemoirs of a GeishaRosewoodSeven Years in TibetJane Eyre and Far and Away are good picks too. Would like to see all of these at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Oh there are tons of scores by Williams and other composers for which I have not seen the films and still enjoy the music immensely. For me it is mostly the 1960's and 1970's films that I have not seen. A few examples from Williams' filmography:ImagesThe Eiger SanctionThe FuryBlack SundayThe ReiversThe CowboysJane Eyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stempel 136 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Not With My Wife, You Don' tHeidiJane EyreThe CowboysMonsignorFar And AwayMemories Of A Geisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,473 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I have seen every single film scored by John Williams, but there are quite a few tv episodes I haven't yet seen. None of the music in these unseen tv episodes is particularly striking, so it's hard to name a favourite as such. I don't know, maybe the episode of BEN CASEY, which I have an audio rip of, but never been able to find for viewing.For the most part, however, these unseen tv episodes I've also not heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 All of his TV stuff, like Checkmate, The Ghostbreaker, Lost in Space episodes, Heidi, etc.Movie-wise, I haven't seen most of his early work like Fitzwilly, How to Steal a Million, The Reivers, Images, The Cowboys, Jane Eyre, etc. Matter-of-fact, looking at the list, I haven't seen a single film he did until Fiddler. First original film I've seen is The Poseidon Adventure. Even still, a lot of the early 70s stuff like Cinderella Liberty, The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing.....nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hook is the only one of my top ten JW scores that I haven't seen. I might change my mind, but right now I'm hoping never to see it, because I don't expect the real thing to live up to what I can imagine just from listening to the score. I think of it like having to decide whether to watch the movie adaptation of a favorite book, knowing that I'll never be able to read the book again without thinking of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You've never seen HOOK? Dear god man, get on that! You're the right age for it too, parents never showed it to you when you were a kid? Great performance by Dustin Hoffman in that flick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You're the right age for it tooHow do you know that? He never told us how old he is (unless I've missed the post where he did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I met him in Boston in June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Smellington is 9 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I met him in Boston in June.Ah, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 For some reason, I don't listen to too many JW scores that I've never seen the film for, and I've tried to see as many JW scored films as I can. I guess I'd have to say Dracula, The Accidental Tourist, Jane Eyre, or Heidi.No wait - Jaws 2! That's my answer. I should see that film someday... Great score! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hook is the only one of my top ten JW scores that I haven't seen. I might change my mind, but right now I'm hoping never to see it, because I don't expect the real thing to live up to what I can imagine just from listening to the score. I think of it like having to decide whether to watch the movie adaptation of a favorite book, knowing that I'll never be able to read the book again without thinking of the movie.You're very wise for your age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 There is certainly no going back after watching Hook. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 No wait - Jaws 2! That's my answer. I should see that film someday... Great score!Never saw Jaws 2?! You can't give someone shit for not seeing Hook and then admit this! Naïve Old Fart and Wojo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why? Jaws 2 is hardly considered a classic film.I've only seen the original Jaws (probably 5 times or so), and have never seen any of the sequels. Why should I bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hook is hardly considered to be a classic either. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Did I claim that it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 You inferred it!Your irrational love for Hook is well known now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I have a soft spot for it yea! If I saw it now for the first time I would probably think it's ridiculous, but enjoyed it when I was a kid and still do now, in huge part due to the great score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Why should I bother?It was on TV all the time growing up (especially the 90s), it's just one of those things you run into, even if you're not seeking it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Yea I've never come across it, I dunno why *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Jaws 2 is the only one of the sequels that's actually good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 There's also two Spielberg/Williams film I've never seen - Always and Amistad.I've also never seen The Color Purple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Jaws 2 was my favorite of the series when I was a kid, but I think that was because of the weekend my parents only rented 2 and 3. Of course, the original is now probably my favorite movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Generally, I do not conceive that people can listen to a soundtrack without having seen the movie at first.Thus, I bought many movies on DVD, simply because John William composed the music of it.Lately, I saw The Book Thieft before listening even to a single note of the Soundtrack. For me, that's logical.There is only one exception in my collection: the soundtrack of Checkmate. I never saw the series, and have no intention to do it. But by the nature of the songs, that appears to me being more (very good) jazzy background songs than timed cues, I don't fell any "loss". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Probably Jane Eyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Jane Eyre, Jaws 2 and Dracula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Off the top of my head, initially it would be Schindler's List. Only seen a smattering of clips that don't amount to more than a minute or two. Then perhaps The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing and even then, I've heard the main theme and sort of want to see the film anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,087 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Jaws 2 is a fine 70s thriller that has the unfortunate disadvantage of being the sequel to one of the most perfect films ever made.Also, Dracula is highly underrated. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Jaws 2 > Hook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Movie Yes, Score No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 You've never seen HOOK? Dear god man, get on that! I don't wanna! I just want to listen to the music. That's my plan, pretty neat plan!You're the right age for it tooHow do you know that? He never told us how old he is (unless I've missed the post where he did).Do you recall each of my 397 posts, Mr. Boal?For those who aren't into soundtracks (normal people) who are fans of Hook as a film, I wonder how much of a part the music plays in their appreciation of it. It strikes me as a score that would be conspicuous in the film, a la Star Wars, Indy, etc. We all know how a JW score can elevate a film, and based on the varying opinions I've heard about Hook, I'd guess the "JW effect" applies here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I never knew you cared! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I've also never seen The Color Purple. Would you have seen it if the score was by John williams? Or do you have a problem with the more serious Spielberg movie? Alex - who has seen TCP theatrically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Just haven't gotten around to seeing it yet, no particular reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,473 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 It's better than people give it credit for, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I own these soundtracks but I've never seen the film:How to Steal a Million/Bachelor FlatFitzwillyHeidiJane Eyre (I saw it for $1 in a Walmart checkout line but passed on it)ImagesThe Missouri BreaksThe FuryMonsignorThe Witches of Eastwick (I bought the DVD but haven't watched it)Schindler's ListRosewoodSeven Years in TibetAmistadStepmomAngela's AshesA.I.Minority ReportMemoirs of a Geisha (I may have seen pieces on TV but I don't remember it)Black Sunday (I started to watch it on Netflix, gave up after five minutes)MidwayWar HorseThe Long GoodbyeLincolnThe Book ThiefMy favorites of that group are Jane Eyre and Black Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I haven't seen most of those films either, but the ones I have seen that I think you would enjoy watching areThe FurySchindler's ListA.I.Minority Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 To chime back in here, I do not think there is anything necessarily wrong with listening to a film score without ever seeing the film. Film music is just as much an art form as the cinema, in my opinion. For example, John Williams' score from "Star Wars" can stand on its own without the Lucas film, but the opposite is not true. I remember an episode of "Evening at Pops" on PBS in 2003 when John Williams was giving the audience at Symphony Hall a very basic primer in the mechanics of film scoring. A clip was shown from the young Indiana Jones train sequence that opens "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" with sound effects and dialogue but without the music. It was so bad. There is a similar clip floating around using the last scene from "Star Wars." Although I have seen most of the films for which John Williams has composed the music the same is not true for other composers in my iTunes library. For some reason I listen to many James Newton Howard scores that were written for movies that do not interest me at all, such as "Dinosaur" "Vertical Limit" and "Peter Pan." I have actually owned Vertical Limit on DVD for about ten years but have not gotten around to watching it, LOL. I am not suggesting, however, that watching films is not important. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Jane eyre, witches of east wick, amazing stories, not with my wife you don't and how to steal a million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,300 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Wow, I totally forgot about Amazing Stories. The Mission warm that would have to be my answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,625 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Heartbeeps and The Fury(Saw The Mission but not Ghost Train) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I have seen them all except GHOST TRAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Mine are probably The Accidental Tourist and Jaws 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Why has NO ONE ever seen Jaws 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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