Brónach 1,302 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 This is the first time a discussion on superhero movies has made me feel like a discussion on superhero comics with shitload of characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 In the comics maybe. It's different when it comes to the movies. At some point this is gonna end. The returns will get fewer, while the budgets keep getting bigger and its no longer worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Then they should make the budgets smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 They won't.By the time that need becomes necessary, these films will have become unfashionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 After a 250 million budget its really hard to go back to a 100 million for your next Avengers film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 And substituted by what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 The next big craze!Are vampires still a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Who knows what will be trendy in the 2020s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 George R. R. Martin's The Avengers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 One of them should already be dead for the Civil War storyline to resemble the comics. However, since the X-Men won't be involved, other specifics of the comics can be altered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Has any MCU film been a totally faithful adaptation so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 One of them should already be dead for the Civil War storyline to resemble the comics. However, since the X-Men won't be involved, other specifics of the comics can be altered. Age of Ultron only took the name of a storyline from the comics and nothing else. Civil War could be the same. They're not really trying to adapt old stories in these movies; They are drawing inspiration from them while doing their own thing. Has any MCU film been a totally faithful adaptation so far? Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Captain America: The Winter Soldier was slightly misnamed. Because the Winter Soldier was far from the main focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Another title they borrowed from a comic book storyline.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 You could completely remove the Winter Soldier character from that film and still have a completely acceptable movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Captain America: The One With Robert Redford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Captain America: Hydra Rising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I know and understand all that. But the death of a key Avenger was a huge controversy in pop culture when they killed him in that comic storyline in the last few years when it was written. Of course, it can change. He's more of a set of ideals anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 The Avengers are going to have to get younger at some point. Scarlet Witch, Spider-man, etc. Think RDJ at 60 years old or older, or Ruffalo pushing 60, in 10-12 years is going to work? Marvel is steadily building their arsenal but they're running out of well-known brand recognized superheros, building on their MCU with tertiary characters the majority of non-comic reading fans don't really car about in the same way.You can either flip the characters by substitution; that is, have other characters carry the torch under the guise of an established hero, à la Sam Wilson as Captain America, or the female Thor.Or rotate in a new set of Avengers; Captain Marvel, Spider-man, Wasp, etcOr a combination of the two options.In 2025 you could legitimately have a revamped Avengers movie with:Captain America (Sam Wilson)Thor (female)Spider-manCaptain MarvelScarlet WitchBlack PantherThat gives you some nice diversity that we haven't seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Maybe Marvel will recognize when a natural end is reached and wrap things up gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Haha, good one TGP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Whedon wanted Captain Marvel and Spider-man to be New Avengers at the end of the filmhttp://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/How-Close-Did-Spider-Man-Come-Being-Avengers-Joss-Whedon-Explains-71273.htmlWhedon had to fight Marvel to keep Scarlet Witches dream sequences in the film, and still a lot got cuthttp://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/Marvel-Wanted-Cut-Lot-Out-Avengers-Age-Ultron-71274.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 I really liked the dream sequences, and I'm not al all surprised that Thor's quest got edited down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 It absolutely needed more footage. The reason why its so poorly integrated into the story is because a lot was cut out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Surely more is missing?Thor just vanishes at one point, only to return to zap The Vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crocodile 8,000 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I agree with Dutchman. This film is suffering from Hobbititis (Jacksonitis?). More footage would probably improve things. And I bet there is more Ultron in there as well.I really liked dream sequences, wish they were longer. I'd go as far as saying they are the most visually interesting aspects of any Marvel film so far.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 WHAT A MESS!We need Avengers: Age Of Ultron- The Rogue Cut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Joss Whedon Addresses Avengers: Age of Ultron's Final Line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Interesting that he passingly references his complaints about the music in that article."As much as I was like, 'We didn’t get this, we didn’t get this, this is sloppy, and I’m not happy with that music cue...'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 It's so weird. It's seems like he was happy with Tyler's score, and the producers brought in Elfman and redid everything... But Elfman's music sounds more like what I would have thought Whedon would like and Tyler's music sounds more like what a studio exec would think bring in. It's all odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 It's a movie alright. I give it a C -. What a mess. Dave liked it much more than I did. He liked that the Hulk had a hairy chest. Evan Peters had nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 It's so weird. It's seems like he was happy with Tyler's score, and the producers brought in Elfman and redid everything... But Elfman's music sounds more like what I would have thought Whedon would like and Tyler's music sounds more like what a studio exec would think bring in. It's all odd.He might be talking about Tyler's cue. Or even Silvestri's tracked one? Because Elfman's theme is being replaced at that very moment.Besides, he doesn't necessarily has to mean that particular cue. He basically says (in the podcast) that he had some complaints here and there (and that's where he mentions music) but that particular moment was exactly as he planned it.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Michael Bay directed this right? Sure looks like it. I'm glad Cap't America didn't die in this. He deserves to dies in a much better film. Maybe Iron Man can kill him in Civil War. My one concession on the film is it did justice to the Hawkeye or the archer, whatever he's called, and it's not MOS bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So... I was watching a video review of the film, and the reviewer came up with an interesting comment: Vision has one of the Infinity Stones in his forehead, and surely, Thanos will at some point gather all the Infinity Stones... Does that mean Vision is doomed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Pretty much. Hopefully he'll get more screentime before then. Paul Bettany sounds pretty cool in the role.So where are the 6 Infinity stones right now? The Guardians have one. One is in Vision's head. One is in the Tesseract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Nope. There are six infinity stones. Adam Warlock was wearing one on his foreheard in Infinity War, if I remember correctly.KK, there is the tessaract, Loki's staff, Aether thing for second Thor, and the thing from GOTG.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 How about in the gloves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Adam Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 How about in the gloves?As you can see in the mid-credit scene, there are no stones there.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Oh, he only needs 4 of them? Well that's disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Oh, he only needs 4 of them? Well that's disappointing.Nobody said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Yeah, you would expect a minimum of 6 to rule the Universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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