#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Since news regarding the Maestro's health ha sbeen hotly speculated upon this year, but always in different threads I thought it was a good idea to have a single one where we can post news, and engage in speculation.Thank you King Mark for the idea!http://www.berkshireeagle.com/local/ci_28544697/conductor-john-williams-bows-out-film-night-tanglewoodConsidering John Williams has now cancelled all his major concert appearances this year because of health issues (apart from the Hollywood Bowl, which was never even announced), and the fact that he didnt score a Spielberg film for the first time since The Color Purple AND since it has been reported that William Ross is assisting him in some capacity we can safely saw without being irresponsibly morbid that John Williams is suffering from health issues beyond simply a inconvenient back ache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thor 7,478 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I know you're bummed because of the cancellation, Stefan, but no need to "paint things black". I still maintain the belief that Williams is very healthy for an 83-year-old, and that the back ailment is temporary, at least as far as conducting is concerned. I also don't see the need in speculating about it; we'll know in due time if there are other issues beyond the back that will force him to slow down. Just look at how Morricone bounced back from his injuries, and is now more active than ever.Let's enjoy the output while he's around instead of wallowing in misery of what will happen down the road.(funnily, the JWFAN board is probably the only place in the world -- off- or online -- where I could be construed as an optimist! ) Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 You are right with the "for an 83-year old"Which is kind of the point of this thread.John Williams is an old man, which means something as simple as a back issue can cause serious issues. Especially considering JW has a very active career still at this age.I is not something to sugar coat, and I feel it's an aspect of John Williams that should be discussed. You of all people should appreciate this, considering your ongoing fascination for the minutia of JW's earliest years. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well said, Thor.Also, bad news travel at high speed, so if JW would be seriously ill, I guess we'd already know. He's a public person, but health issues are rightfully kept under privacy. Also, as others said, he's in the middle of a very demanding project (Ep7). so he has to prioritize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well said, Thor.Not well said at all.I am not being pessimistic. I am being realistic. Considering JW's age and recent health issues a thread like this is perfectly valid and useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hasn't scored a Spielberg film since...... the color purple.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 The Color Purple was score by Quincey Jones. The films producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well said, Thor.Not well said at all.I am not being pessimistic. I am being realistic. Considering JW's age and recent health issues a thread like this is perfectly valid and useful.I understand being concerned about his health, we all are, Steef. But I don't think it makes much sense to speculate hardly about it, especially since none of us has more information other than the official statements that talk about back ailment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 I respectfully disagree!Anyway this would be a good thread to post any future news about his back, official or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 All things considered, the inflammation of decade-old back ailments is certainly preferable to the myriad of worse problems one could have at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 There's a difference between being concerned, and focussing all one's attention on the negative aspects of his health. There isn't much to be gained from that; instead I'd like to focus my energy on the good health he has -- relatively speaking -- and the music he keeps producing still.It's an attitude difference, I guess. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Why not have both?You don't have to contribute Thor, as you don't have to contribute to a lot of threads that seem to offend you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This doesn't offend me. It's just a particular angle that I find a bit curious. But to each their own and all that.I'll be sure to chime in once or if there is some public announcement regarding the specifics of his health beyond the present back issue (hopefully not for many years yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have to agree with Stefancos on this..Too many coincidental cancellations, and I also thought some days ago, that things don't seem very good.And of course if they were serious, we wouldn't know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 I agree. We know next to nothing about John Williams' personal life. Surely if he had any serious condition it would not be reported to the media.I just wanna go on record and state that I'm not saying John Williams does indeed have a serious condition, illness or anything.It could very well be a back problem that is persisting because of age and the fact that JW is still working and possible not getting the rest he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Let us all wish this topic will not be bumped for a long long time.But if it does, I'm sure I will have heard about any news elsewhere first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 We should make a list of all the health issues Williams could possibly have. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Important notice:To minimize the number of member heart-attacks or unwanted stress, only bump this thread if something is SERIOUSLY the matter with The Maestro. Not to be used for general banter. There are enough topics to do that in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 That's not general banter, this is a serious matter.People need to be informed of the dangers of alkaptonuria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Who's the stiff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Steef!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 JW has health issues? :( :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Dude, don't do that, you scared the bejesus out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I agree, let's all stop bumping this thread. Who's with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Count me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I read the thread title as John Williams death issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Count me in.OK, good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Maybe he's just taking a Maybe it's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,823 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 What?they're musical symbols.He means:maybe he's just taking a pausemaybe it's not the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Suffering myself of back pain, I know what this can represent... and I'm only 41.I can't imagine how it will be when I'm 80.Hey, Mr. Williams take a Robaxacet and two Motrin for me.Hope yo see you soon on track!Maybe he's just taking a Maybe it's not It's definitely a > decresc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 This whole thing is just because JJ wants to use practice effects in the recording sessions. They're using an actual real orchestra to score the film this time as opposed to the green screen and CGI orchestra the prequels used. It's taking longer than planned so JW has to cancel other projects.n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Let us all wish this topic will not be bumped for a long long time.We should make a list of all the health issues Williams could possibly have.Maybe Jason could add this to the Forum Index thread? Anyone have the timestamps? They really need cataloging. Clean edits only please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I think it might be useful to split this into its own subforum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I'm only worried about his recent faint voice because Ricard is worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,233 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yeah...that was the most worrying thing. Having seen numerous family and friends in their last months and days a weakening voice tends to be the tell-tale signal that things aren't going well. It certainly triggers some ol' PTSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It's just the painkillers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Maybe Ben Burtt remixed the voice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Maybe... He's just looking frail, the hair growing a bit longer than normal (if it's so bad he's not getting a regular hair cut...). Even if it is just a simple back issue, a chronic condition that affects daily life like that puts a serious stressor on the elderly. Immobility-related morbidity is a thing for that age group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Why is he orange???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,179 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Schamberg Disease[...]The lesions are most frequent on the lower limbs, but may occur anywhere on the body, including the hands, arms, torso and even the neck. They may vary in number and erupt in mass numbers. They consist of irregular patches of orange or brown pigmentation due to the iron complex hemosiderin, with characteristic "cayenne pepper" spots appearing within and at the edge of old lesions.[...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,272 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 It's LA, people get tan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 If there is something serious going on with JW's health, I find it strange that they would go ahead and confirm he is still doing The BFG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ask yourself, how would people react if they didn't throw that out? And then ask yourself if it's still strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 I would have died! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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